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Microsoft hurts the PSP's feelings, gives format a kick in the crotch photo

Microsoft has taken a swipe at Sony's PSP, giving the platform a dressing down for having plenty of the right tools, but using none of them well.

"The PSP is a reasonably successful product at the profit-and-loss level. But as a product concept, there are cautionary tales to learn from it," stated MS' hardware chief, Robbie Bach. 

"While it is good at producing audio, it's not a good music player because it doesn't have local storage (except for flash memory slots). You can't keep your music there. It has a beautiful screen, but you can only get the video under the Universal Media Disc format. That format hasn't been successful. On a game level, it has done well. But even there, it is mostly PlayStation 2 ports. There isn't much original content. When you do these devices, they can't be pretty good at a lot of things. They need to be great at what they do."

You can't say Bach didn't skimp on the brutality there. A fairly dire assessment of the PSP, but he's not saying anything wrong about the system, unfortunately (and this is coming from a PSP fan). The PSP tried to be a jack of all trades and mastered nothing, when most people would have liked to just have a quality game player. Sony's plans for a "walkman for the 21st century" came unstuck when the PSP failed to excel at any of its services. Oh well, I still like the little bugger.


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chfuji's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 05:31
chfuji
I wonder if the oft-mentioned PSP re-design (not just the PSP after a weight-loss program) might bring about flow of fresh blood. I like the thing as well, and I'm hopeful some good things are round the bend.
Noah's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 05:40
Noah
Instead of criticize a decent hand-held console, why doesn't Microsoft put out it's own hand-held already?
lowercaseluke's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 05:42
lowercaseluke
Japan seems to rike it.
ajaxender's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 05:57
ajaxender
Hes right, unfortunately. To really use your psp for everything, you need a large memory stick too. And then on the games front, not a whole lot of effort has been put in to make anything super special.
He also missed out the potential of homebrew - sony put the capabilities there, and have done nothing but stop others using it. Imagine an xbla or wii ware type thing. Could have been great... instead we all get custom firmware and do whatever we want.
Having said all that though... its still nice to have a half decent music player that can also play games and videos if i get bored.
Anus Mcphanus's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 06:30
Anus Mcphanus
Harsh but fair
johanster's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 06:32
johanster
Yes, we all know Zune was infinity more successful as a media player, and that device surely had no crippling media formats.
Timmeh's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 06:37
Timmeh
I find this criticism of the PSP by someone responsible for MS tech to be entirely amusing and ironic, hailing from a company renowned for cutting corners on hardware costs to the detriment of quality and trying to push their own failed proprietary formats.
Netrat33's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 06:48
Netrat33
Arguments about the psp (negative and positive) always seem to correct. It's a balanced system but it just needs that "something" to make it stick out more. I do really like mine though. Neet little gadget that can do a lot of things.
Jetsetlemming's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 06:57
Jetsetlemming
Mentioning the Zune in response is the perfect way to react to this.

Those are pretty fair complaints, though I still want a PSP, and for PS1 ports actually.
Y0j1mb0's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 07:26
Y0j1mb0
Microsoft don't like the PSP RAWR RAWR RAWR..lol.

Who cares what Microsoft thinks.
c0dek's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 07:33
c0dek
Why isn't this on CNN? I am shocked...SHOCKED that MS (or any other company, for that matter) has something negative to say about a competitor's product.

at least it affords the opportunity to make the ultimate satirical fanboy/games media comment:

This just proves that Robbie Bach is obviously biased in favor of Microsoft.
entropyman's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 07:51
entropyman
custom firmware makes the console waaay more fun- for one thing, I only use the umd to dump games so that I can play them off the stick- it is tons faster to play off of the stick than the umd- for another- I use it as a book reader- emulators work awesome on it- etc. etc.
I think that MS should put it's own handheld out if it wants to gripe... and I will prolly get it
linuxguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 08:15
linuxguy
hey microsoft if you don't like the psp show us what you are capable of and build a handheld(without RROD please)
broonor's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 08:25
broonor
lol PS2 ports for the PSP. You mean the PS2 has PSP ports, mayhaps? Regardless, I don't blame the big S for porting successful PSP games to the PS2
Alessar's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 08:34
Alessar
I really can't agree with the points Microsoft makes at all about the PSP. I use mine as an mp3 player all the time. So what that you have to stick a memory card in, it means you don't have a hard drive to fail and you can swap out whole rosters in a moment by switching cards. My previous mp3 player used SMC cards with 128 meg capacity. My PSP uses memory duo with 4 gig capacity. I'm well satisfied, and I can run it with a visualizer if I want to watch something.

Media may not be sold on anything but the UMD, but Sony's always sold a small media converter program (and there are freeware ones as well) to format any other video you may have to something playable on the system. There's also that nifty feature where you stream video off your PS3 or TiVO to it. One of the forthcoming Blu-ray features will allow you to download a PSP version of a Blu-ray movie from a PS3, and the UMD format has been re-launched at a better price point. Just last week GameStop had a big sale on UMDs with many titles available for $5. MTV has recently released AeonFlux and Jackass for $10.

In addition to countering those criticisms, I've been surprised by how much I use the wireless connection on mine, even just to stream music off my PS3 in the next room, sometimes to check email from in bed.
Salty Soil's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 08:52
Salty Soil
All in one devices are usually crap anyways. But who seriously bought a PSP as a music player or for any of it's other features other than playing games?
SoopaFly TNT's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 09:08
SoopaFly TNT
I never bought my PSP as a music player. I bought it for games and the connectivity to the PS3. MS way off base on this one. Did he say the Zune????? lol
Misanthrope's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 09:50
Misanthrope
This means microsoft will try to make a DS only with a tiny hard drive and halo on it? Hey MS, you know whats great about the handhelds in general? So far THEY FUCKING WORK! I don't even want to imagine how problematic an MS handheld would be if they can't even create decent hardware for a full size console.
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 09:51
Qraze
zune? what is a zune? is that a new motherboard ms are gonna be using in a 360? or is a msx type handheld console? i live under a rock. a metal gear rock
Velt's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 09:56
Velt
Wow, is all ok with the criticism, but Microsoft cant say nothing about other companies gaming products, they lost that advantage with the xbox360 rrod fiasco.
daCuk's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 09:57
daCuk
@lowercaseluke

Japan seems to like Monster Hunter, that is
Yuphrum's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 10:02
Yuphrum
That damn PSP is getting in the way of the BEWBS!!!!!!!!
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 10:15
king3vbo
Because the Zune is so fucking awesome
Rigor Mortis's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 10:24
Rigor Mortis
I bought a huge ass memory stick for music, only to find out the PSP has no equalizer or bass boost and the playback quality sucks accordingly. And I converted videos only to never be able to find what combination of filename and directory names the damn thing needed to recognize them.

Jack off all trades, master of none indeed.
Rigor Mortis's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 10:24
Rigor Mortis
Ok, just wanna say - the typo in the last line of my previous post is the best one I've ever mad
Crunshii's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 10:52
Crunshii
this comes from the people that make a failed system.

Touche~
BlackDove's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 11:09
BlackDove
How's that Zune working out for ya Bach?

Mouth closed until you clean your own mess.
brainderailment's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 12:27
brainderailment
"you can only get the video under the Universal Media Disc format"

This man didn't do his homework, why would anything else he say hold water? The zune? *cough* yeah, the zune.
PaperBowser0's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 13:59
PaperBowser0
Yeah seriously, they're talking crap when they released a piece of shit called a Zune.
guermogamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 14:07
guermogamer
@ Rigor Mortis

Dude, download the latest PSP Video 9 from red kawa.
Choose the "new" video format option and the rest is a no brainer. Convert away!

Although you may have issues if the original content is not 100% intact. JSYK
mistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 14:32
mistic
[i]I bought a huge ass memory stick for music, only to find out the PSP has no equalizer or bass boost and the playback quality sucks accordingly. And I converted videos only to never be able to find what combination of filename and directory names the damn thing needed to recognize them.

Jack off all trades, master of none indeed.[/i]
yeah i had a similar experience...

I really like the PSP-idea, but it was done in a bad bad way...
Ender0910's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 14:55
Ender0910
wait. why is everyone bashing the zune here? It's not a game device. Plus, you can load non-DRM mp3s on a zune and guess what, pull it right back off as non-DRM mp3s.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 15:16
mix
"local storage (except for flash memory slots). You can't keep your music there"

What?
You CAN keep your music on the mem card and you can copy movies you "own" and convert them to play off your PSP mem card. 8 gig card FTW.

www.pspvideo9.com use it

MS fails
loki d20's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 16:23
loki d20
I don't think Robbie was at all being brutal there, it's just hard not to notice the flaws in marketing and utilizing the PSP. I don't own one yet, but was tempted to pick up the GoW Limited Edition the other night... Got Age of Conan instead though and not regretting the decision.
rabidkeebler's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 16:29
rabidkeebler
I'm afraid I have to agree with MS on this one. Though i have found new uses for the PSP with video from my DVDs converted to a format it could use, I haven't played a game on it in over 2 years, I hadn't touched for over a year and a half until I wanted a video player.
Capn Birdseye's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 17:44
Capn Birdseye
I have a PSP and I agree with MS on this one too. Although, buy yourself a 4gb memory stick duo and you have plenty of storage for mp3s and videos, without even homebrewing it.

As for the Zune, I think its a great bit of kit, unfortunately MS are trying to foist another middleware app like iTunes between Windows Explorer and the device. If it detected as a removable drive and I could add files through windows explorer, I would buy one.
Phyraks's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 20:36
Phyraks
Those assessments may have been true 2-3 years ago when the thing first came out but they are just not true today. That rep obviously has never used one with anything from a 2-8 gig mem stick in it. It can be an excellent portable media powerhouse. Not to mention the selection of games out there now is great. Sure some games are ports but it's not that bad anymore. They're just upset cuz they couldn't make one just as good or better.
Vitamin Awesome's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 02:59
Vitamin Awesome
Wow. Just wow.

Bashing an MP3 player to get back at someone who's merely stating that something isn't perfect.

I want a PSP, despite the beef that I have with sony over their decision to use an entirely different proprietary format over one that was established and would've been a better decision overall. Yeah, I'm about to rant about the Minidisc format. Quick-as-hell seek and read times, coupled with phenomenal battery efficiency (I could get a single AA battery to play 25 hours from a hi-MD on random), and the potential for moar capacity (I think I heard somewhere to up to 4 gigs on a hi-MD disc could be achieved?) would have taken care of a good Bajillion percent of the Gripes many people have about the PSP today. Music? Bam. right on a rewritable disc. Movies? Bam. Disc. Pirating games? Not so much seeing as how you could've easily made write-protected MDs that couldn't be written over. Yes Sonicstage was a bitch to work with, but it was still better than itunes. If the PSP would've used the established MD format, not only would you have the Audiophiles that stood by their beloved ATRAC format flocking to get one so they could dust off their Minidisc collection, but it would've been cheaper to produce, and therefore even cheaper to buy. God damn, I'm a lonely, lonely man being up at this late ranting about this...
BlackSunEmpire's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 04:13
BlackSunEmpire
I spend far more time on my nds. I also find that I'd rather use my ipod for video or music. The PSP is just too bulky to comfortably haul around with me, it goes in a backpack alright, but I hardly ever have one.

It's my at home handheld.

Also, possibly this is Bach's comments leading up to microsoft announcing their own handheld, pointing out that they know what sony did wrong, and maybe improving on it.
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 18:46
Sharpless
I came in here to make a nice, reasonable, balanced comment on this story, but a few fanboy-fag responses have knocked the wind out of those sails. Fuck Microsoft and fuck your goddamn PSP.
Conanfan's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2008 05:04
Conanfan
He's right. I wish my PSP were more useful, but the games aren't good, it sucks as an mp3 player, getting movies on it is a hassle, and the internet browser is way too slow (though it gets the job done when you're using it for pornographic content).
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