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Microsoft: Halo is our bread and butter photo

Halo 3: ODST is almost upon us, and Microsoft has reiterated how important the series is for the Xbox 360, promising that even though Bungie is done with the universe, the universe is not done with itself.

"Halo is our bread and butter," claims Bungie stalker Alex Cutting. "Microsoft Game Studios is the publisher that brought Halo: Combat Evolved to the scene, and we realized we had a good thing going there. It is a center piece for us. We will invest in Halo as much as we can to make sure it’s a healthy, respected, fun franchise, and we will continue to do so.

"The Halo universe is obviously very rich in detail. There are a lot of stories to be told there. As far as the future of the franchise, I can guarantee it’s something Microsoft is going to continue to invest in and make new products and exciting stuff, but I’m not going to be able to tell you, or even concept what other stuff we’re doing."

Have you had enough Halo? Do you believe Microsoft has exploited it too much, or is there still plenty of life left in the franchise? For all the accusations of the series being turned into a cash cow, it's certainly not turned into Guitar Hero. Have you still got gas in your engine for Reach and ODST?








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Everyday Legend's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 09:23
Everyday Legend
Captain Obvious confirmed playable.
matrixdude171's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 09:27
matrixdude171
No duh it's a centerpiece. They just don't have any guts to try something else. The trilogy doubles, and then is going to triple I bet.
Thaliard's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 09:30
Thaliard
Halo's been kinda growing stale for me. I loved Halo and Halo 2, but Halo 3 was kind of disappointing. ODST sounds like enough of a change of pace to reinvigorate the series, though. Mario, Metroid, and Zelda have been around forever; let's hope the Halo series gains that longevity.
covah's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 09:32
covah
Duuuur-huur, uuuuuh, do ya really tink so?!
Phantom Spaceman's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 09:34
Phantom Spaceman
Apparently ODST training includes bunny-hopping.
Infinite Combo's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 09:39
Infinite Combo
I always have room for more Halo.
socialnorms's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 09:39
socialnorms
@Phantom Spaceman:
It also includes dancing from side to side to dodge bullets and backpedaling faster than your opponent can sprint forward.

They should finally take Halo in its original direction: a whole planet to explore and no missions save the ones you choose to embark on. Maybe the game winning parameter would involve wiping out the Covenant while keeping the Flood in check, and would involve days of committed play, and could include bringing friends in to help.

Otherwise I don't think anything about ODST looks different.
Luigi takes over's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 09:41
Luigi takes over
Forgive me Jim, but wouldn't this be better with a "Captain Obvious" image?

That being said, I'd like for bungie to try their hand at some new IPs. Not saying more Halo is a bad thing, I just think its getting rather played out at this point.
Brass's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 09:42
Brass
I'm on the same page as Thaliard. Halo 2 was the peak of the series for me, and for whatever the reason, Halo 3 fell kind of flat. I hope Halo fans enjoy their game, but the series just doesn't do anything for me now.

And I don't feel like they're exploiting the series; Halo has always been produced with effort and originality. Though the latest offerings don't synch with me anymore, these have been quality games, and will likely continue to be that way.
Black Nexus's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 09:43
Black Nexus
Did Captain Obvious take the day off? He. should have been here by now.
Cyber Altair's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 09:48
Cyber Altair
Quick, act surprised.
GoldenGamerXero's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 09:50
GoldenGamerXero
There's an inuendo in there I'm sure of it.
Nicojay2's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 09:53
Nicojay2
Bungie, REPENT.
Is it not written, man does not live by bread alone.

Anyway, I too would like to see them make a game in another genre. Sure they wouldn't make as much money but th.... oh yeah.. money.
falinter's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 09:59
falinter
I LIKE BREAD AND BUTTER SHE LIKES TOAST AND JAM
Doos's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 10:13
Doos
Those Halo guys should start a basketball team.
MrJohans0n's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 10:18
MrJohans0n
I myself like Halo. I think the fact of the matter is that Halo's not going anywhere any time soon. It's going to be around for a long time, and even when everyone is sick of it and the games turn to shit. They will make more.
DtoidBadMrK's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 10:19
DtoidBadMrK
I don't get this at all. How is it that Microsoft has 5 Halo games, and everyone says its milking a franchise, but Nintendo shoves Mario up into every single thing they do, and its not milking him? Just realize that Halo is Microsoft's Mario. It's their iconic, first party franchise that everyone expects with the console.

This is not saying that Halo is as good as Mario. It's just saying that every company has their brand, and Halo is Microsoft's brand. As long as they keep innovating, and keep changing the franchise up enough to keep things fresh, who cares how many they release. Personally, I hope the Halo franchise never dies.

Personally, I think Nintendo has bastardized Mario way worse than Microsoft with Halo. I mean look at all the things they shove that fat little Italian into: Super Mario, Mario RPG, Paper Mario, Mario Kart, Mario Tennis, Mario Party, Mario Paint. When Microsoft releases Halo Paint, then it's time to get concerned. But right now they've got 3 games featuring Master Chief, one RTS game, and one set in the Halo 3 universe that doesn't feature Master Chief. So atleast they're trying to mix things up, and keep them fresh without overdoing it.
DtoidBadMrK's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 10:24
DtoidBadMrK
I don't get this at all. How is it that Microsoft has 5 Halo games, and everyone says its milking a franchise, but Nintendo shoves Mario up into every single thing they do, and its not milking him? Just realize that Halo is Microsoft's Mario. It's their iconic, first party franchise that everyone expects with the console.

This is not saying that Halo is as good as Mario. It's just saying that every company has their brand, and Halo is Microsoft's brand. As long as they keep innovating, and keep changing the franchise up enough to keep things fresh, who cares how many they release. Personally, I hope the Halo franchise never dies.

Personally, I think Nintendo has bastardized Mario way worse than Microsoft with Halo. I mean look at all the things they shove that fat little Italian into: Super Mario, Mario RPG, Paper Mario, Mario Kart, Mario Tennis, Mario Party, Mario Paint. When Microsoft releases Halo Paint, then it's time to get concerned. But right now they've got 3 games featuring Master Chief, one RTS game, and one set in the Halo 3 universe that doesn't feature Master Chief. So atleast they're trying to mix things up, and keep them fresh without overdoing it.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 10:30
Sexualchocolate
Halo = Microshafts only move.

I personally hated the first one, the second one and the third one, didn't even consider playing any after that. Just can't stand that silly, shiney, twitchy, strafey fantasy shooter type genre. I pick up some zappy magic gun and i think, meh, fuck this.

The Halo world is not for me.

But if you enjoy it, fair play, i suppose.
VWGTI's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 10:38
VWGTI
Applause for Sexualchocolate ladies and gentlemen. Bravo, bravo.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 10:38
Jim Sterling
"Halo = Microshafts only move."

Gears of War and Fable would like to have a word with you.

Seriously, that's like me saying God of War is Sony's only move. It's ridiculously untrue.
Analoge's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 10:40
Analoge
Healthy: Check.

Respected: Err... Check, I guess.

Fun: Check.

So why do they need to pick it back up? Video Game publishers need to learn what American Cartoon makers are finally starting to. Know when to leave well enough alone. Sure, there's money left to be made there, but do we really need to squeeze every drop of blood from every IP that gets mildly popular?
fetusmilk's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 10:43
fetusmilk
what the hell is halo?
thefailsafe's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 10:44
thefailsafe
I have always, and will always be a fan of Halo. However, if Bungee is indeed done with the franchise, I can only assume that it will get worse, and worse is quality, and in style. That's just what happens when the brain child of a specific group of developers, gets taken over with legal nonsense. The spark, the depth, and most importantly, the passion poured into the game goes to the way side, in lieu of the all mighty dollar.
Shadowiii's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 10:44
Shadowiii
Hey, Sexualchocolate just described every FPS set in a sci-fi setting in the history of the world.
I never liked Halo much myself, minus the vehicles. I seriously think they were the best part of the games. That and the music was pretty amazing.
I actually think Halo Wars was my favorite Halo game. No, seriously. It was a solid RTS (even if you couldn't play as the flood) that made me want to learn more about the Halo universe. I wouldn't have "bought" (read: gotten off Goozex) Halo 3 had I not played Halo Wars first.
Still, I'd like to see them branch out more with it. They don't ALL have to be the same tired FPS.
But for now, Horde mode until Firefight I suppose.
Retrofraction's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 10:47
Retrofraction
LOL, Microsoft Gaming studios does no other games BUT halo now, since the stooped making fight simulator.

If I was Bungie I would milk Microsoft for all their money and then more, and then develop games for their biggest competitors just to show my appreciation.

Besides I don't think Msoft is capable of making a good Halo game without Bungie.
Morbid Demise's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 10:50
Morbid Demise
Well nintendo has been milking mario for years, In a worse way then M$ and Halo. However, nintendo has not relied on only mario to get people onbord with their system. Mario is not Nintendos bred and butter, family gaming is. Just like Solid Snake is not ps3's bread and butter, and all in one kick ass system is. But Xbox....not so much. If the bread and butter to Xbox is halo, I can see why I never bought one. There is only so far you can go with a game no matter how good that game is. Guitar hero was fun, but now there are so many of them no body cares. Dynasty Warriors was fun, but there are so many of them now that no one even cares about games that slightly resemble Dynasty Warriors. M$ is milking the franchise, even if the games are up to par, problem is that up to par is not everything. They need to go above and beyond and if the story line to Halo:OSTD is the same length of halo 3, I dont give a damn if their world is the most open one possible, its going to suck. The online is going to feature 4 new maps along with all of the ones from halo 3, and a horde like mode....I see nothing all that new. Might as well buy 3 since people are still playing that and give halo:ostd a rental, unless you must really want the horde mode. Halo has not changed much since the first one. Some would argue that is a good thing, but its not. Like I said dynesty Warrirs was good when it first came out years ago. Lets look at the evolution of Halo:The first one was a solid FPS with a good story. The second one featured a dual wielding and online and no good story, the third one had better graphics and a few new weapons and maps and even less of a story. Everything is going to be the same. People are going to be like "OMG this is amazing, I have never seen anything like it" but they have seen it. Multiple times. Halo fanboys remind me of the zombies from Land of the Dead and the halo games are their skyflowers.
kidko's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 10:53
kidko
I am not ashamed to admit i have ODST preordered and look forward to some more split-screen fun with my friends who enjoy Halo too.
Electrium's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 11:07
Electrium
I never really understood all the Halo hate. It's an FPS series that doesn't anything particularly innovative, but does most everything right. Just because it's well-liked by a large part of gaming audiences doesn't mean you have to offset that by professing your exaggerated hate for it everywhere you go. Look at the 007 games, there's a new one pretty much every year, and they're all the same, and they all have the same flaws, but somehow Halo's THREE similar games somehow get all the flak. There are far worse shooters out there, that's a fact.

I'm glad Bungie is starting to slow down with Halo, but I'm also glad they aren't going to be permanently done with the franchise. It's been fun, but it's time for a change. Hopefully by the next installment, they'll have some new vehicles, re-designed guns (although ODST is sort-of doing that =D), and an all new set of alien dudes for us to shoot.
Markusdragon's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 11:07
Markusdragon
I'm no Halo fan. I enjoyed the first one, felt a little disappointed with the second but enjoyed the expanded multiplayer, and got so annoyed with the third one that I vowed never to play an FPS again, but I don't see MS's continued expansion of the series is in any way a bad thing. It's hardly gotten to Star Wars exploitation, and there's still a vast universe with a fleshed out setting and history to tell stories in.
I hope they'll experiment with more genres, like they did with Halo Wars, but I doubt it.
lewness's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 11:36
lewness
Captain Obvious couldn't even be bothered to get up this time.
Morbid Demise's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 11:37
Morbid Demise
My problem is in the worship. Its an issue. I know some people that practically worship bungie. No matter how crappy the game is its still the best game in the world in their eyes. I could compare Bungie to scientology if I really wanted to, but I think I'll pass on that one. If it really was the best then there would be no problem with it, but it simply is not, and I just found out that the multiplayer for the game is the same for halo 3, it even comes on a different disk the only new thing is The horde mode. hell it might as well be an expansion with 5 hours of game play and a new mode. But people are still going to buy it. I guess Im just pissed because I am a broke gamer and I see people wasting money and it makes me sad. Like someone spending a million dollars on golden umbrella stand or something like that.
BoBoTheChimp757's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 12:18
BoBoTheChimp757
Halo and me go way back. I can remember playing the first one the summer I graduated high school and being amazed. I didn't even have an Xbox, but most of my friends did. I don't see anything wrong with MS milking it and I am glad they are continuing to add more to the series. There were countless drunken nights spent with friends and two networked Xboxs with Halo in. Then Halo 2 came around with the online support. I bought an Xbox 360 when it first came out soley for Halo 3. Call me a fanboy, I don't care...it's just the series holds alot of memories for me personally (both good and bad). I think this could be said about any successful franchise people find themselves involved with. Just look at Final Fantasy!
Draconianviper's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 12:21
Draconianviper
I enjoyed the first Halo when I actually played it, but before that I wasn't and still am no fan of the franchise as a whole. That's just my personal feeling much like many people who play the series were mostly new to hardcore gaming. Sure they might have touched on games now and then but most of those people saw it as something too nerdy until Halo came along. It brought more people into the gaming world. Kind of like what Golden Eye did for the N64, just bigger.
Draconianviper's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 12:25
Draconianviper
Also I agree with the comments in regards to Halo being Microsoft's Mario. I think being spoiled with complex FPS's on the PC long before Halo definitely added to my lack of enjoyement of the franchise as a whole.
GoldenGamerXero's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 12:40
GoldenGamerXero
@Draconianviper

I think the serieses haven't gotten out of hand with Mario and Halo because Mario and Nintendo francises are mostly standalone experiences where most of the games aren't direct sequels and at least change gameplay. Halo isn't that bad either in regards to this and Halo has created some of the basic features we see in FPSs so Halo did for FPSs what Mario did for platformers. Halo still changes it up in ways that it can still be Halo like Mario changes in ways that it's still Mario.

I don't think numbered sequels have gotten out of hand till you get to number five because after that you're just doing the same damn thing. As long as you put the series in different areas, let some time pass between them and change it up a bit the whole series thing isn't that bad.
gains's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 12:46
gains
What they should do is make it a persistent online world with multiple playable races and elements of RTS planning. And release it on the Mac.

Oh wait . . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2RVje3MyhQ
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 12:54
Darren Nakamura
I am not nearly as huge a fan of the series as I used to be, but still, I've played all of the FPS games, I've read all of the books, and I really do enjoy the fiction behind the series. I'm not done with Halo as a series, but these days it takes a backseat to others.
TheGreatPUDDING's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 13:27
TheGreatPUDDING
As much as I like Halo,I want Bungie to try something else.
D-Nez's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 13:28
D-Nez
@socialnorms: I would love to see a real open world Halo game. Where the enemies are dropped off in random locations so every play through is different. If you play stealthy less enemies are dropped from phantoms. Gun- a-blazing then the entire covenant knows your location.

Like some others gave said, the supposed milking of the halo brand is exagerrated. Unfortunately halo is too popular so it becomes popular to hate on it. Its similar to when an indie band gets huge and then everyone gets on the they're overrated I like them before they were popular bandwagon.

The truth of the matter us that they're a lit worse you can do in regards to games on the 360. You can always expect a xertain amount of polish with every bungie Halo game. And even though the campaigns seem to get shorter than my liking i think it's well worth the $50-$60.

I just hope who ever takes on development if Halo games shares the same kind if love for the universe that Bungie did
Draconianviper's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 13:41
Draconianviper
@GoldenGamerXero

I completely agree with you in that sense and to Halo's credit, it's had a bit more of a hard time branching out than Mario. So far they've gone the RTS route which I thought was a nice change for the series although I didn't play it. Having a Halo character in DOA was also interesting.

Mario has definitely added different things to platforming and sports/boardgames along the way where Halo is still kind of stuck with the FPS and while FPS's continue to change, it's getting harder and harder to become innovative.
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 13:53
vexed alex
As long as it's still fun and interesting -- sure. Why not?
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 13:54
Holyetheline
It doesn't matter what I say... The halos will never end.
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 14:04
vexed alex
As long as it's still fun and interesting -- sure. Why not?
GoldenGamerXero's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 14:12
GoldenGamerXero
@Draconianviper

I don't think that a problem with Halo as there's a lot to be done with that universe but rather a problem with Bungie. They're taking the safe route by sicking with what they've alreadly got and when they do attempt a different genre like with Halo Wars it still seems pretty basic RTS. The same old click here, go here, kill that and considering with how well and high a standard they set with console FPSs I was suprised to see they were just doing the basics in Halo Wars.
matrixdude171's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 15:54
matrixdude171
Its not that we don't see how Nintendo is milking Mario, but we see the same faults happening to Microsoft. It's really tiring to see another big company doing the same milking as Nintendo. Halo Wars..... no, it didn't sell, and everyone hated it. Considering that if Halo Wars is your only argument saying that they're trying something new, you are sorely mistaken. One out of five is not trying something new. They ran back to the safe zone, the only place they'll make games. Point and case, Halo wars, then ODST? why not a different genre? why not try something other than a FPS? because they have no balls to try something else. Get over it all you halo fans, you're in love with simple FPS games. A bland peanut butter sandwich at best.
Occams electric toothbrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 16:45
Occams electric toothbrush
First game was fine. Outgrew it after that.
compuguy1088's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 17:41
compuguy1088
Now....when is Microsoft going to release halo 3 for the pc. Its been long enough!!!!!
kirobz's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 23:32
kirobz
More Halo for MS. Is MS going to stop there and not bring any new game for the system? Halo: ODST is still not out but we are to expect another Halo. What's next? a Halo Racing game? MS need to get more variety.
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