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If they offer some more of those $1 sales then I'll take another peek (still waiting on Fable Lost Chapters to drop in price). Hopefully the terrible framterate and bugs won't be so bad on the PC.
Doesn't change the fact that Steam does everything GFWL does, only a million times better. And with the momentum Steam has garnered by now they don't stand a chance against Valve.
And to me that is a good thing. The last thing I want is a fragmented market where I have to install a myriad of different clients instead of just one.
On another note: I'd rather give my money to Valve the only company with a strong incentive to keep the PC Games market alive and well, rather than Microsoft who just try to suck every last penny from us.
And to me that is a good thing. The last thing I want is a fragmented market where I have to install a myriad of different clients instead of just one.
On another note: I'd rather give my money to Valve the only company with a strong incentive to keep the PC Games market alive and well, rather than Microsoft who just try to suck every last penny from us.
Steam beat everyone to the punch, and I can't see Microsoft ever being able to compete with that service.
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I'm gonna do a Michael Pachter: We're gonna have this exact same article a year from now.
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I'm gonna do a Michael Pachter: We're gonna have this exact same article a year from now.
Respect to MS for at least realizing GFWL is a steaming pile of shit. That's not to say I have faith they can make it decent, but respect for admitting its innate shittiness.
Its a crap system, it always has been a crap system, and it will continue to be a crap system.
About the best thing it has ever done for me is actually work now and again and let me play the damn games I bought instead of freezing up at the menu.
About the best thing it has ever done for me is actually work now and again and let me play the damn games I bought instead of freezing up at the menu.
I definitely thing Games for Windows - LIVE has potential. It's really cool to link your account to your Xbox 360 LIVE account and share Achievements and friends, but they just make it so complicated sometimes to just play your damn game.
As opposed to Steam, where you just download and play, GFWL can be a serious hassle with having to download, install, and put in Key codes to play your games. And sometimes, you have to go completely out of your damn way to get some games working properly (http://forums.gamesforwindows.com/t/9398.aspx). It's effin' annoying.
I bought Bioshock 2 through Amazon because it was on sale for like $5, or something, but I had to put in the same Key code like, three or four times just to get the damn thing to run.
If Microsoft can streamline everything and make it NOT a pain in the ass to play my goddamn games, then I definitely see potential. Until then, they still have a LOT of work to do.
As opposed to Steam, where you just download and play, GFWL can be a serious hassle with having to download, install, and put in Key codes to play your games. And sometimes, you have to go completely out of your damn way to get some games working properly (http://forums.gamesforwindows.com/t/9398.aspx). It's effin' annoying.
I bought Bioshock 2 through Amazon because it was on sale for like $5, or something, but I had to put in the same Key code like, three or four times just to get the damn thing to run.
If Microsoft can streamline everything and make it NOT a pain in the ass to play my goddamn games, then I definitely see potential. Until then, they still have a LOT of work to do.
"matchmaking in a really great way to PC,"
NO, keep that matchmaking shit on consoles where it belongs
NO, keep that matchmaking shit on consoles where it belongs
After forcing Alan Wake to be a 360 exclusive after it was for the longest time the DirectX 10 poster boy for PC, Microsoft has somehow steadily lost more respect from the PC community.
Here is the thing: Even if Microsoft fixes Games for Windows Live to a state where it is at least as good as Steam that still would not be enough to be competitive because the cold truth is Microsoft is just too heavily invested into the Xbox gaming platform. In order to make any meaningful impact like they used to have on the PC they would need to divert more resources to it which I seriously doubt they will ever do now.
I mean consider this cold fact: Microsoft has not published an actual game for the PC since 2007 and has not made a PC centric game since 2006, Flight Sim X. Microsoft is so hilariously behind its competitors that they would seriously need to consider porting all their first party 360 games to just get on the level of competitive unless of course Microsoft can pull 5 years worth of original PC games out of thin air.
Microsoft has dug too deep a hole for themselves. They either need to make such a colossal effort in short time or just seriously consider the viability of their current level of support and scrap the whole thing.
Here is the thing: Even if Microsoft fixes Games for Windows Live to a state where it is at least as good as Steam that still would not be enough to be competitive because the cold truth is Microsoft is just too heavily invested into the Xbox gaming platform. In order to make any meaningful impact like they used to have on the PC they would need to divert more resources to it which I seriously doubt they will ever do now.
I mean consider this cold fact: Microsoft has not published an actual game for the PC since 2007 and has not made a PC centric game since 2006, Flight Sim X. Microsoft is so hilariously behind its competitors that they would seriously need to consider porting all their first party 360 games to just get on the level of competitive unless of course Microsoft can pull 5 years worth of original PC games out of thin air.
Microsoft has dug too deep a hole for themselves. They either need to make such a colossal effort in short time or just seriously consider the viability of their current level of support and scrap the whole thing.
Ummm. yeah... Of course it will.
Like they said when it launched, and a year after that. See a pattern yet?
Like they said when it launched, and a year after that. See a pattern yet?
Is it time for microsofts Bi-annual "We care about PC gaming" push already? Bracing for token gestures and disappointment.
If this means I'll be able to play Reach Around on my PC, I'm ok with that. I love that Halo.
Too bad I still most likely wont...
Too bad I still most likely wont...
Ugh. I bought ONE(!) GFWL game from the service and the experience SUCKED. I will never make that mistake again. If I want a service like this I choose the one that will likely never be beat: Steam.
I bought Fallout 3 on Steam and it still uses GFWL. It certainly has potential, but It's gonna be hard to compete with Steam at this stage of the game.
Good for them, I guess. I'll be more interested when the headline shifts from "will get better" to "is better".
I agree with all the "Steam > GFWL" comments. If Steam is already dominating the market, and quite well I might say, then why do we need another service? Fuck off Microsoft!
lemme see real quick. I have 12 games for Steam and 2 games for Live. This is from a person that doesn't play pc games at all.
I believe that a 6:1 ratio shows that they really need to understand how Steam works and why they work six times more efficiently than Live.
I believe that a 6:1 ratio shows that they really need to understand how Steam works and why they work six times more efficiently than Live.
They need to start releasing some of the heavy hitters on from the Xbox Platform on the PC, and they really need to start looking into cross platform play.
BlazBlue PC already does it. They need to do it for the shooters and the other titles too.
They also need to release an GFWL Arcade/Indie Games channel for the PC, and port games over, all keeping the cross platform ability. Maybe even give special incentives for those who buy the game twice (because lord knows they won't give you a free game).
And Sales. Lots more sales. That 99 cent thing they did? Fucking amazing. Do more.
Integrate Xbox Live Features with GFWL. Party Chat with XBros and shit. Netflix Party. Hulu Party. Social shit like that.
Hell, just fucking release games. I honestly haven't had a problem with any of the GFWL games I've bought. They all worked with relatively little hassle. It's just that GFWL is barren as fuck. They need to stop treating it like a sloppy second and start start treating it like a full fledged service that makes sense to use instead of just downloading to your PC to play DiRT 2 and never really messing with it.
BlazBlue PC already does it. They need to do it for the shooters and the other titles too.
They also need to release an GFWL Arcade/Indie Games channel for the PC, and port games over, all keeping the cross platform ability. Maybe even give special incentives for those who buy the game twice (because lord knows they won't give you a free game).
And Sales. Lots more sales. That 99 cent thing they did? Fucking amazing. Do more.
Integrate Xbox Live Features with GFWL. Party Chat with XBros and shit. Netflix Party. Hulu Party. Social shit like that.
Hell, just fucking release games. I honestly haven't had a problem with any of the GFWL games I've bought. They all worked with relatively little hassle. It's just that GFWL is barren as fuck. They need to stop treating it like a sloppy second and start start treating it like a full fledged service that makes sense to use instead of just downloading to your PC to play DiRT 2 and never really messing with it.
I've had no problems with Games For Windows Live and don't really get why people hate it so much. Yes I'd like a few more Xbox Live features (matchmaking, cross game/platform chat) and yes steam is better but nobody has given me a complete and good reason why GFWL sucks.
NO ONE CARES.
why don't they work on improving it for the 360 instead of just adding useless shit like facebook/espn?
why don't they work on improving it for the 360 instead of just adding useless shit like facebook/espn?
I have 70 games on my Steam account and it's fucking fantastic. I used GFWL on Bioshock 2 and Street Fighter and the experience wasn't the best of all.
When up against Steam, they don't stand a chance in hell. Steam dominates the PC market and produces a top quality service all round.
At this point, I'd rather see MS drop GfWL and work with Valve like Sony is at this point.
At this point, I'd rather see MS drop GfWL and work with Valve like Sony is at this point.
Give us the rest of Gears saga, the rest of halo saga, the rest of fable, and lots of exclusive xbox games onto GFWL and we can talk about good service, jackasses...
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the only thing that microsoft does better are achivements that's it steam is way better than games for windows will ever be
GFWL is good, have you tried it?
I bought DiRT2 on Steam and it is GFWL enabled. So when I play, I see all my xbox friends, I earn achievements & gamerscore, I have voice chat, etc. PLUS I get the Steam overlay with my steam friends and all other stuff. So it's the best of both world, buy a GFWL game on Steam.
Oh and BTW, the graphics of DiRT2 on PC, jeez! The current gen console is really starting to look old.
I bought DiRT2 on Steam and it is GFWL enabled. So when I play, I see all my xbox friends, I earn achievements & gamerscore, I have voice chat, etc. PLUS I get the Steam overlay with my steam friends and all other stuff. So it's the best of both world, buy a GFWL game on Steam.
Oh and BTW, the graphics of DiRT2 on PC, jeez! The current gen console is really starting to look old.
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