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12:25 PM on 08.06.2007, Nick Chester

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Microsoft: Every game will work with every system, but some require a hard drive photo

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Amidst growing concerns among Xbox 360 Core unit owners regarding the "Hard Drive Required" stickers, Microsoft is setting the record straight ... or confusing us even further. In a statement to GamePro, a Microsoft spokesperson attempts to clear things up by talking in circles.

"Every game will work with every Xbox 360 system," a Microsoft spokesman told GamePro when asked about the "Hard Drive Required" sticker. "But just like some games will require you to have a Memory Unit to save games, some games will require you to have a Hard Drive to experience them."

So what he's trying to say is that gamers who purchased the hard drive-less Core unit shouldn't have a problem playing all current and future games. However, they may not be able to play them unless they have a hard drive. So some games will require a hard drive.

In conclusion: All Xbox 360 games will be able to work on all Xbox 360 units, as long as they have hard drives. Is that your final answer, Microsoft?

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47 comments | showing # 1 to 47

Corncobtacular

So does anyone actually have a "hard drive-less" 360?

I know people bought core systems, but i just assumed that they all eventually bought a hard drive for obvious reasons.

Magesx

I'd experience your hard drive.

cryocide

Translation: You can buy the car, but if you want it to drive it you're gonna have buy tires.

Hoygeit

So you can play it but not experience it?

tazarthayoot

Uh...phone a friend?

Will it be like the expansion pack on N64 where if you tried to play Perfect Dark without it all you could do was play a boring multiplayer deathmatch?

blehman

people buy 360's but don't save games? How does that work? magick?

Knives

The ultrahardcore buy hddless 360s because they always finish the games in one sitting, they have no need for saving devices.

Samit Sarkar

Oh, well, when you put it that way, it isn�t confusing at all...

Snaileb

Dark Magic.

wonky360

Microsoft should dump the core system. I know nobody who does not have the HD. I think this was one of the big mistakes at launch. The more developers use the Hd the better I say.

Necros

@ blehman: Memory cards. Supposedly, some people insist on only paying $50 for a memory card and not doubling that for a full-featured 20GB hard drive. We call these people...the lost. Starring Tom Cruise and directed by Michael Bay.

PacoDG

Two games have already came out that required a hard drive to play.

Cowzilla3

Shouldn't his head explode when trying to compute such contradictions?

blehman

@necros

Lolz dude, nice. Can't wait till it comes out. Explosions and gay midgets.

RestingSound

Microsoft was doing so good with PR, they should grow some balls and tell the cheapskates to suck it. The hard drive makes the console way more powerful at a very small price.

Professor Pew

MS will keep the Core so they can say: see, it's so much cheaper than a PS3 and almost as cheap as a Wii.

I don't think ppl that buy a Core as their first 360 are capable of concern though :)

MaximusPaynicus

Yeah, when I saw that, I sat here a good ten minutes scratching my head thinking "... the fuck?" I still don't know what the hell he was trying to say.

scottoid

*YOOT YOOT* all aboard the microsoft BullShit train......next stop Confusionville. there you will meet ppl wondering when MGS4 and Final Fantasy 13 is coming to 360!!!

Neonie

The only offer the core system for total noobs who dont know what there doing. Kind of like Microsofts little joke towards the clueless. This is why I love them, they cater to REAL gamers xD

Churchhills Dog

I'm glad thats cleared up.

*takes another pull of cough syrup*

Crunshii

thnx nick... Now I will be confused the entire day... o well.

*whistles* ~ come here Liger!! lets go hunt some humans.

Joe Burling

I think this is a great idea. I expect the core will either go away or get an HDD in the future.

Samit Sarkar

Pssh...that�s not a liger; this is:

Nick Chester

OMG A LIGER!

Anyone think GTA IV is going to require the HDD?

Samit Sarkar

Well, assuming it�s on one DVD-9, it would have to, wouldn�t it? I mean, if it�s the same exact game as the PS3 version, which will most likely be on a BD-25, it would have to cache at least a few gigs of data on the HDD � unless the six-month delay was, in fact, because Rockstar was waiting for Microsoft to improve their compression techniques...

bhive01

I bet it will. If it doesn't on release then it will for any and all episodic content that MS paid 50$ million for.

Professor Pew

I don't know if GTA4 will need it. The BD will probably not have 25GB's on it either, unless it's uncompressed HD-videos of making of's and such.
Vice City wasn't even 700MB, San Andreas was like 2,5GB on the xbox? A lot of sandbox game textures could be compressed and decompressed on the fly.

I do want to know how much space this will cost on the HDD though. With xbox1 it always was 3x700MB for the X:/Y:/Z: cache-'partitions', and about 2GB for saves?

Morrius

Ah well, to be honest I don't think there any many people out there without hard drives. Ebay will be flooded with smaller hard drives on both sides of the pond once the larger hits Europe, I expect MS know this and I expect they feel unthreatened by the prospect of the software sales lost due to the small amount of people playing without hard drives. I imagine they assume many of those people will buy a hard drive, in much the same way that PC owners are eventually forced to buy new graphics cards.

Still, that statement makes nooooooooo fucking sense.

Sharpless

Somehow that all makes sense, but I'm not really sure how.

I expect the Core to start disappearing by the end of next year. Mark my words. I AM FROM THE FUTURE AND KNOW A LOT ABOUT HISTORY.

savagesaladin

I don't really know anybody that would buy the HDD-less 360. I still hate that the 360 HDD is a tiny 20GB. That is just stupid. Your average HDD is about 120GB. I fill my 360 up all the time, then I have to delete shit that I want to keep.

frygar

@Neonie:

As opposed to what, the "uber" hardcore furry gamer? What? Did Microsoft personally emblazon yours with ears, tail, and a set of glow sticks? :/

Knives

@ Sharpless

It makes sense, just consider the hdd as an accesory and not as a part of the system.

I think he said it like that to avoid getting people confuse and thinking that a Core system with a HDD still wouldn't be able to play some games.

PacoDG

Multiple discs rule. When Final Fantasy was first release on the Playstation, it was awesome cause, "OMG there is so much game here I need two discs!" If I have played a game for 10 hours+ to then be required to get up to switch the disc after that long time of play, it is probably a good thing I get some kind of physical activity.

BluFire

They should never have gone with a hdd-less unit. Poor M$.

Neonie

@Frygar

Umm... what? That dident really make sense, it just ripped on furs, which..is kind of stupid.. seeing as how there was no point to it.. not like I came in saying "OMG THEY MADE TEH 360 FOR FURS HUR HUR HUR, I LOVE FOXES *Shoots self".

fra_diavola

Hey if u can afford an xbox u can afford a harddrive.

Myrmidon16

oh, so thats why when i stare at the game i get less experience than those who put it in the 360.

brainderailment

They foresaw this problem and everyone knows it. What they should have done is put about 5Gbs of flash memory built in so that games could cache off of that memory and never require a harddrive. But then again, devs might decide 5Gbs is not enough. (which is viable considering a single layer BD holds 25Gb)

lwesquire

Maybe for the HDD-less GTA4 is going to be like Vice City on the PS2 was, where the fastest car could drive faster than the game could load buildings, so after a minute you'd just be driving through a transparent desert. If there's one thing I don't like about MS, it's their insistence that you only buy officially sanctioned accessories. On my ps3 I'm using a german wireless keyboard I got for �5 on ebay and the headset that came free with my Motorola and when the time comes I can whack in one of the spare hard disks I have floating around. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of the 360's multiplayer and all but the way Microsoft do business puts me off buying one.

Gnort

Seems quite clear - every game will run without a hard drive, but you won't be able to save or update some of them without one (which would be the "full experience").

So, good luck playing through Mass Effect in one sitting, Core owners.

Doomtrain

It'll work with any Xbox system, so long as that system is equip with a hard drive. A Core is still a Core if you add the hard drive, it's a Core with a hard drive.

Just buck up and buy a damn hard drive so we can get rid of this damn market divide.

Mxyzptlk

This is why multiple skus for consoles are a bad idea.

Sharpless

Agreed, Mxy. It's nice to have cheaper versions of consoles, but they're not worth it if they're going to be half-assed. No system should come with less than 20 gigs.

DGX Goggles

If you were dumb enough to buy a SKU that without the hard drive required an overpriced, separately packaged, small (as in memory space) memory card, that basically made the hard drive far more cost-effective, to save it's games then I guess the joke is on of you.

Gnort

@Hells_666

Fly off the handle much?

ajaxender

it does make sense if you take it as 'all consoles have the capability to run the game, but some games will also need a hard drive'. Its still a bloody stupid statement, since we already know that, or if its not true, its a big f-up by MS.

pixelsword

Welcome to doublespeak 101... you missed the class.

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