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Microsoft: Every game will work with every system, but some require a hard drive photo

Amidst growing concerns among Xbox 360 Core unit owners regarding the "Hard Drive Required" stickers, Microsoft is setting the record straight ... or confusing us even further. In a statement to GamePro, a Microsoft spokesperson attempts to clear things up by talking in circles.

"Every game will work with every Xbox 360 system," a Microsoft spokesman told GamePro when asked about the "Hard Drive Required" sticker. "But just like some games will require you to have a Memory Unit to save games, some games will require you to have a Hard Drive to experience them."

So what he's trying to say is that gamers who purchased the hard drive-less Core unit shouldn't have a problem playing all current and future games. However, they may not be able to play them unless they have a hard drive. So some games will require a hard drive.

In conclusion: All Xbox 360 games will be able to work on all Xbox 360 units, as long as they have hard drives. Is that your final answer, Microsoft?

 


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Corncobtacular's Avatar
Corncobtacular at 08/06/2007 12:24
So does anyone actually have a "hard drive-less" 360?

I know people bought core systems, but i just assumed that they all eventually bought a hard drive for obvious reasons.
Magesx's Avatar
Magesx at 08/06/2007 12:24
I'd experience your hard drive.
cryocide's Avatar
cryocide at 08/06/2007 12:25
Translation: You can buy the car, but if you want it to drive it you're gonna have buy tires.
Hoygeit's Avatar
Hoygeit at 08/06/2007 12:26
So you can play it but not experience it?
tazarthayoot's Avatar
tazarthayoot at 08/06/2007 12:27
Uh...phone a friend?

Will it be like the expansion pack on N64 where if you tried to play Perfect Dark without it all you could do was play a boring multiplayer deathmatch?
blehman's Avatar
blehman at 08/06/2007 12:29
people buy 360's but don't save games? How does that work? magick?
Knives's Avatar
Knives at 08/06/2007 12:35
The ultrahardcore buy hddless 360s because they always finish the games in one sitting, they have no need for saving devices.
Samit Sarkar's Avatar
Samit Sarkar at 08/06/2007 12:36
Oh, well, when you put it that way, it isn’t confusing at all...
Snaileb 's Avatar
Snaileb at 08/06/2007 12:36
Dark Magic.
wonky360's Avatar
wonky360 at 08/06/2007 12:37
Microsoft should dump the core system. I know nobody who does not have the HD. I think this was one of the big mistakes at launch. The more developers use the Hd the better I say.
Necros's Avatar
Necros at 08/06/2007 12:37
@ blehman: Memory cards. Supposedly, some people insist on only paying $50 for a memory card and not doubling that for a full-featured 20GB hard drive. We call these people...the lost. Starring Tom Cruise and directed by Michael Bay.
PacoDG's Avatar
PacoDG at 08/06/2007 12:41
Cowzilla3's Avatar
Cowzilla3 at 08/06/2007 12:42
Shouldn't his head explode when trying to compute such contradictions?
blehman's Avatar
blehman at 08/06/2007 12:47
@necros

Lolz dude, nice. Can't wait till it comes out. Explosions and gay midgets.
RestingSound's Avatar
RestingSound at 08/06/2007 12:47
Microsoft was doing so good with PR, they should grow some balls and tell the cheapskates to suck it. The hard drive makes the console way more powerful at a very small price.
Professor Pew's Avatar
Professor Pew at 08/06/2007 12:50
MS will keep the Core so they can say: see, it's so much cheaper than a PS3 and almost as cheap as a Wii.

I don't think ppl that buy a Core as their first 360 are capable of concern though :)
MaximusPaynicus's Avatar
MaximusPaynicus at 08/06/2007 12:54
Yeah, when I saw that, I sat here a good ten minutes scratching my head thinking "... the fuck?" I still don't know what the hell he was trying to say.
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scottoid at 08/06/2007 13:05
*YOOT YOOT* all aboard the microsoft BullShit train......next stop Confusionville. there you will meet ppl wondering when MGS4 and Final Fantasy 13 is coming to 360!!!
Neonie's Avatar
Neonie at 08/06/2007 13:17
The only offer the core system for total noobs who dont know what there doing. Kind of like Microsofts little joke towards the clueless. This is why I love them, they cater to REAL gamers xD
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Churchhills Dog at 08/06/2007 13:18
I'm glad thats cleared up.


*takes another pull of cough syrup*
Crunshii's Avatar
Crunshii at 08/06/2007 13:29
thnx nick... Now I will be confused the entire day... o well.

*whistles* ~ come here Liger!! lets go hunt some humans.

Joe Burling's Avatar
Joe Burling at 08/06/2007 13:34
I think this is a great idea. I expect the core will either go away or get an HDD in the future.
Samit Sarkar's Avatar
Samit Sarkar at 08/06/2007 13:34
Pssh...that’s not a liger; this is:
Nick Chester's Avatar
Nick Chester at 08/06/2007 13:35
OMG A LIGER!

Anyone think GTA IV is going to require the HDD?
Samit Sarkar's Avatar
Samit Sarkar at 08/06/2007 13:38
Well, assuming it’s on one DVD-9, it would have to, wouldn’t it? I mean, if it’s the same exact game as the PS3 version, which will most likely be on a BD-25, it would have to cache at least a few gigs of data on the HDD — unless the six-month delay was, in fact, because Rockstar was waiting for Microsoft to improve their compression techniques...
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bhive01 at 08/06/2007 13:40
I bet it will. If it doesn't on release then it will for any and all episodic content that MS paid 50$ million for.
Professor Pew's Avatar
Professor Pew at 08/06/2007 13:53
I don't know if GTA4 will need it. The BD will probably not have 25GB's on it either, unless it's uncompressed HD-videos of making of's and such.
Vice City wasn't even 700MB, San Andreas was like 2,5GB on the xbox? A lot of sandbox game textures could be compressed and decompressed on the fly.

I do want to know how much space this will cost on the HDD though. With xbox1 it always was 3x700MB for the X:/Y:/Z: cache-'partitions', and about 2GB for saves?
Morrius's Avatar
Morrius at 08/06/2007 13:55
Ah well, to be honest I don't think there any many people out there without hard drives. Ebay will be flooded with smaller hard drives on both sides of the pond once the larger hits Europe, I expect MS know this and I expect they feel unthreatened by the prospect of the software sales lost due to the small amount of people playing without hard drives. I imagine they assume many of those people will buy a hard drive, in much the same way that PC owners are eventually forced to buy new graphics cards.

Still, that statement makes nooooooooo fucking sense.
Sharpless's Avatar
Sharpless at 08/06/2007 13:55
Somehow that all makes sense, but I'm not really sure how.

I expect the Core to start disappearing by the end of next year. Mark my words. I AM FROM THE FUTURE AND KNOW A LOT ABOUT HISTORY.
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savagesaladin at 08/06/2007 14:06
I don't really know anybody that would buy the HDD-less 360. I still hate that the 360 HDD is a tiny 20GB. That is just stupid. Your average HDD is about 120GB. I fill my 360 up all the time, then I have to delete shit that I want to keep.

frygar's Avatar
frygar at 08/06/2007 14:11
@Neonie:

As opposed to what, the "uber" hardcore furry gamer? What? Did Microsoft personally emblazon yours with ears, tail, and a set of glow sticks? :/
Knives's Avatar
Knives at 08/06/2007 14:12
@ Sharpless

It makes sense, just consider the hdd as an accesory and not as a part of the system.

I think he said it like that to avoid getting people confuse and thinking that a Core system with a HDD still wouldn't be able to play some games.
PacoDG's Avatar
PacoDG at 08/06/2007 14:38

Multiple discs rule. When Final Fantasy was first release on the Playstation, it was awesome cause, "OMG there is so much game here I need two discs!" If I have played a game for 10 hours+ to then be required to get up to switch the disc after that long time of play, it is probably a good thing I get some kind of physical activity.
BluFire's Avatar
BluFire at 08/06/2007 14:45
They should never have gone with a hdd-less unit. Poor M$.
Neonie's Avatar
Neonie at 08/06/2007 14:59
@Frygar

Umm... what? That dident really make sense, it just ripped on furs, which..is kind of stupid.. seeing as how there was no point to it.. not like I came in saying "OMG THEY MADE TEH 360 FOR FURS HUR HUR HUR, I LOVE FOXES *Shoots self".
fra_diavola's Avatar
fra_diavola at 08/06/2007 15:09
Hey if u can afford an xbox u can afford a harddrive.
Myrmidon16's Avatar
Myrmidon16 at 08/06/2007 15:27
oh, so thats why when i stare at the game i get less experience than those who put it in the 360.
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brainderailment at 08/06/2007 15:35
They foresaw this problem and everyone knows it. What they should have done is put about 5Gbs of flash memory built in so that games could cache off of that memory and never require a harddrive. But then again, devs might decide 5Gbs is not enough. (which is viable considering a single layer BD holds 25Gb)
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lwesquire at 08/06/2007 15:54
Maybe for the HDD-less GTA4 is going to be like Vice City on the PS2 was, where the fastest car could drive faster than the game could load buildings, so after a minute you'd just be driving through a transparent desert. If there's one thing I don't like about MS, it's their insistence that you only buy officially sanctioned accessories. On my ps3 I'm using a german wireless keyboard I got for £5 on ebay and the headset that came free with my Motorola and when the time comes I can whack in one of the spare hard disks I have floating around. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of the 360's multiplayer and all but the way Microsoft do business puts me off buying one.
Gnort's Avatar
Gnort at 08/06/2007 16:03
Seems quite clear - every game will run without a hard drive, but you won't be able to save or update some of them without one (which would be the "full experience").

So, good luck playing through Mass Effect in one sitting, Core owners.
Doomtrain's Avatar
Doomtrain at 08/06/2007 16:36
It'll work with any Xbox system, so long as that system is equip with a hard drive. A Core is still a Core if you add the hard drive, it's a Core with a hard drive.

Just buck up and buy a damn hard drive so we can get rid of this damn market divide.
Mxyzptlk's Avatar
Mxyzptlk at 08/06/2007 19:17
This is why multiple skus for consoles are a bad idea.
Sharpless's Avatar
Sharpless at 08/06/2007 20:47
Agreed, Mxy. It's nice to have cheaper versions of consoles, but they're not worth it if they're going to be half-assed. No system should come with less than 20 gigs.
DGX Goggles's Avatar
DGX Goggles at 08/06/2007 21:04
If you were dumb enough to buy a SKU that without the hard drive required an overpriced, separately packaged, small (as in memory space) memory card, that basically made the hard drive far more cost-effective, to save it's games then I guess the joke is on of you.
Gnort's Avatar
Gnort at 08/07/2007 01:56
@Hells_666

Fly off the handle much?
ajaxender's Avatar
ajaxender at 08/07/2007 11:04
it does make sense if you take it as 'all consoles have the capability to run the game, but some games will also need a hard drive'. Its still a bloody stupid statement, since we already know that, or if its not true, its a big f-up by MS.
pixelsword's Avatar
pixelsword at 08/08/2007 18:31
Welcome to doublespeak 101... you missed the class.
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