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With the success of such "games" as Dr. Hiroshima's Big Brain Suduko How Old Is Your Japanese Coach, it is little surprise that publishers are desperately scrabbling for a piece of the action in their ambition to saturate everything that passes through this industry. One man, however, has his head screwed on and ironically, he hails from Microsoft country.

"We're in the business of producing fun, not education," warns Microsoft's Neil Thompson. "It so happens that certain products we produce have educational value. We're in the business of creating fun entertainment and the moment we try to pretend we're in the business of education we've crossed the line and it's dangerous for us as a company and as an industry.

"We've got to concentrate on producing great quality commercial products that will sell, because it costs too much money to get that wrong."

I never thought I'd say that a man called Thompson was right about videogames, but here we go -- I'm with Thompson on this. While he concedes that games can be used as educational tools, he also stresses that if the industry as a whole decided to push educational games to capitalize on the few big successes, a lot of money will be lost.

But of course, I'd say that's true of everything, not just educational games. Isn't that right, New Xbox Experience?








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ian_esq's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/27/2008 13:21
ian_esq
it's true.

It's been shown in research that physical activity can help your brain cells better than sudoku's and these Brain Age training gains
wardrox's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/27/2008 13:27
wardrox
When I read that I had an almost opposite reaction. Note "almost".

I kinda read his statement as "Fuck education, we want MONEY!". Business yes, moral not so much.

He seems to give little regard for how much education a videogame can provide, and yet remain fun (ie profitable).
Fantus's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/27/2008 13:27
Fantus
M$ is such a load of asshats.

Maybe they should talk to each other before they start contradicting each other.

Sounds like M$ is butthurt over missing out on brain-age profits.
Char Aznable's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/27/2008 13:31
Char Aznable
Fantus, you just used "M$" in a non-ironic manner, which makes you an asshat yourself.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/27/2008 13:34
mix
I do know this.........they are boring as hell.
Fantus's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/27/2008 13:34
Fantus
@Char

Don't judge me.
ParaParaKing's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/27/2008 13:39
ParaParaKing
Yeah, Microsoft only does fun and no Windows and other stuff.
Clance's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/27/2008 13:39
Clance
Last story contradict this one? Is this guy smarter than a 5th Grader? I would answer if I know what one of those was...
Fantus's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/27/2008 13:42
Fantus
"For Microsoft, the findings could potentially result in educational games designed for the company's Xbox game console, Nordlinger said."

...but they aren't in the business of making education games?
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/27/2008 13:52
Sharpless
I'm down with that. Are there educational movies? Are there educational books? Are there educational albu-... Okay, so maybe my comparisons don't extend as far as I was hoping they would...
Edge of Blade's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/27/2008 13:53
Edge of Blade
Games are most educational when they aren't trying to be educational. One word, three letters:

Civ.
Yards Prower's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/27/2008 13:58
Yards Prower
Fantus: I was about to say too...

Microsoft just partnered with my school to be part of the "1st scientific-based game research alliance"

For Microsoft's "Games for Learning" initiative...
http://research.microsoft.com/ur/us/gamesinstitute.aspx

Irony or miscommunication much?

Reminds me of the day Sony's Harrison said something like "The PlayStation 3 is a computer. We do not need Personal Computers"

Sony Vaio workers all cringed, and psychopathic Mac fanatics all cheered, not realizing that their Mac is really a PC in disguise......
Zeag's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/27/2008 14:23
Zeag
Right above an article about "Are you smarter than a 5th grader" coming on XBLA...

Brillant, Microsoft.
Zcdrike's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/27/2008 14:31
Zcdrike
Why can't video games be educational as well? Math Blaster 3000 helped me more then homework ever did, Bioshock made me read up on Ann Rand (psycho bitch), Okami teaches us Japanese mythology, Mario Paint taught composition, balance, and how to smack the shit out of those flies. Hell even Mario Galaxy's ending has some commentary on the big bang and the cycle of life. Maybe I'm just a crazy old man, but I prefer a game that offers me something more intellectual then the Halo style of "Go here; shoot that". Maybe that's why I'm currently addicted to Fable 2.
hood_954's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/27/2008 17:02
hood_954
"We've got to concentrate on producing great quality commercial products that will sell, because it costs too much money to get that wrong."

i.e. "We weren't able to buy developers off to make educational games exclusively for 360 and cash in on the craze. So i'm just going to bitch about them instead"
CelicaCrazed's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/27/2008 17:19
CelicaCrazed
They're not in the business of making educational games to increase the intelligence of the populous. They're in the business of making educational games for profit, which need to be fun or else they don't sell.
Rosbif's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/27/2008 17:20
Rosbif
How's them sour grapes, Microsoft?
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/27/2008 20:26
Sharpless
Why is everyone citing Are You Smarter Than A 5th Grader as an educational game? It's a fucking game show, not an educational program.
Altered Beets's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 03:05
Altered Beets
Screw old people and children. How dare they have fun on the games systems designed for another target market.

Seriously, people over and under the 18-25 span? Waste of skin.



Yes, I know that's not what's being said in the original piece.
Kalmah's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 19:20
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