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Microsoft contemplating new way to nickel and dime people to death photo

In a misguided attempt to make PCs more affordable (or more likely a crafty attempt to squeeze money out of people), Microsoft has filed a patent for a "pay as you go" PC subscription system.

The basic idea is that you "build" a computer out of a set of parts, each with an associated cost, then Microsoft builds the computer, sends it to you, and you pay for it for every hour that you use it. While on the surface this might sound like a nice way to make PC gaming more affordable, when you crunch the numbers it ends up sounding kind of worthless.

The patent estimates a gaming PC would cost around $1.25 an hour (and we all know it will end up costing more than that). Assuming you use the computer for two hours a day (and I'm sure most of us use it much longer than that), you'll be spending $75 a month, or $900 a year. Considering that, if you search for deals, you can build a decent gaming PC for around $500/$600 and use it as much as you want, MS seems like they'll be ripping people off pretty hard.

The patent also mentions they may go with a flat rate pricing scheme that works for a set amount of time. Either way, anyone buying these is likely to get gouged.

If you want to get a gaming PC, build it yourself (it isn't as hard as it looks) or find someone who can do it for you. Spending $900 a year on a subpar machine would just be crazy.

[Via Cnet]


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Bigby's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 15:38
Bigby
How the hell does this work? Is it based on time it's on? Do they just keep charging you indefinitely with no cap on it if it pays for it all eventually? So you don't even eventually own it you just pay forever? The hell crap is that? Is there a meter on the damn thing?
SnakeDude4Life's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 15:39
SnakeDude4Life
What kind of economic dystopian society is Microsoft trying to make?

Blade Runner, anyone?

Corak's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 15:41
Corak
Stupid way to nickel and dime people, but there is a sucker born every minute. I hope this doesn't catch on, but I have a feeling it might, people like "low" monthly anything. However it being Microsoft and Windows I fullly expect a way to hack it so you don't get charged to use it in 4...3...2...1...
galagabug 's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 15:44
galagabug
are we sure this is interpreted properly? why would ms sell you hardware and then control system specs remotely? the odds of it being hacked wide open are next to impossible, you know like their OS. i've seen this other places and i think the patent request is being misinterpreted.
PhazonYoshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 15:46
PhazonYoshi
Step 1) Reformat, to remove whatever tracking software they use.
Step 2) Enjoy your free computer.
Niero's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 15:50
Niero
WINDOWS 8 IS REVOLUTIONARY
Zombutler's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 15:51
Zombutler
Step 3) Enjoy jail
whormongr's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 15:53
whormongr
actually I think that MR ross has this a bit skewed- the word on the street is that this will be a cloud computing type system where you would use a terminal style log to access mainframe hardware, thus allowing you to say build a cluster or or compiling rig w/o purchasing the hardware, kind of similar to server hosting that most larger companies use nowadays only you wouldn't own or rent the dedicated hardware, just the rented specs and someone would admin it for you.
in general the idea that this would make sense to your average consumer is pretty stupid, companies would pay because it cuts the bottom line compared to their profits, but for your average consumer there is no profit
michiyoyoshiku's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 16:06
michiyoyoshiku
once this happend magically millions soon start using macs
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 16:14
Qraze
bad idea but its the ms mentality. if they could charge you for every hour you use windows, they would.
Jonathan Ross's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 16:20
Jonathan Ross
@whormongr Based on the language in the patent, it sounds like they're actually planning on selling individual machines with selectable performance levels. No mentions of clouds at all. Like GalagaBug mentioned, based on the patent language, it sounds like it's going to be "unlockable" performance. You can read the full patent here.

@Ron
They make it explicitly clear what it's intended for in the patent - they want to make computers "more accessible" to increase the revenue software developers will get from an expanded userbase. They also admit that the consumer will likely end up paying more than they normally would if they just bought a computer, but think it will be justified because the machines are "scalable" and you won't have to upgrade as often. The problem is is that it will probably be cheaper to upgrade.
CrocBox's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 17:14
CrocBox
This is one of the dumbest ideas I have ever heard.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 17:32
Holyetheline
Step 4) Rape
Guttlesswonder's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 17:38
Guttlesswonder
Maybe this would work for something like a PC arcade, or whatever those places are were you can just rent a PC to play games and shit. Then your userbase would be paying for the PC's as they play per hour, and then you could upgrade massively every 6 months without the upfront cost of new hardware.

Then again I don't really know, its not like I would ever do this.
Mushman's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 18:22
Mushman
Step 5) Gang rape
whormongr's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 19:44
whormongr
@Jonathan Ross
this part of the patent says exactly what I was saying:

"The system 10 may include a number of pay-per-use computers, such as a first computer 12, a second computer 14, and a representative last computer 16. The computers may be connected over individual local access connections 18, 20, 22 to a wide area network 24, such as the Internet, and from there to a fulfillment center 26. "

also in the opening description:
An administrator may use a similar user interface to set performance levels for each computer in a network, allowing performance and cost to be set according to a user's requirements.

it seems that this is more intended for institutional use
whormongr's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 20:53
whormongr
@Jonathan Ross
this part of the patent says exactly what I was saying:

"The system 10 may include a number of pay-per-use computers, such as a first computer 12, a second computer 14, and a representative last computer 16. The computers may be connected over individual local access connections 18, 20, 22 to a wide area network 24, such as the Internet, and from there to a fulfillment center 26. "

also in the opening description:
An administrator may use a similar user interface to set performance levels for each computer in a network, allowing performance and cost to be set according to a user's requirements.

it seems that this is more intended for institutional use
Jonathan Ross's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 20:53
Jonathan Ross
@whormongr I saw that part, but I assumed it was more of a description of how MS would control people's computers rather than a cloud system. You may be right; the patent is rather vague. The reason I'm not entirely sure it's a cloud is because of them talking about people still having to upgrade the boxes; you just won't have to wait as long to upgrade.

I'm also not entirely sure about the institutional use. Certainly, it will be used that way, but it really seems like MS is targeting it towards the regular consumers. When they talk about the "typical consumer", they talk about things like graduation invitations, Christmas letters, and trips too and from school.

Regardless of how it's implemented, it'll be interesting to see where this goes.
brainderailment's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2008 20:55
brainderailment
"Whoops, my computer had to download and install a service pack all night, there's another $30 down the drain."

Expect frequent unavoidable updates. Also, I don't ever want to use a computer that Microsoft manufactures.
leahzero's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/01/2009 07:58
leahzero
Calm down, Chicken Littles. Considering how cheap consumer-grade PC hardware is, and how prices are still falling, it's very unlikely that this will be aimed at the consumer market in any way. The guy who mentioned distributed computing for businesses (e.g. render farms) is on the right track.
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