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Metroid Prime concept art shows Kraid battle, ice baboon photo

I've just now gotten into Retro's Donkey Kong Country Returns, and so far, I agree with everything Chad Concelmo said in his review. It's awesome. Playing the game has me desperate to see Retro return to the Metroid series. The brilliant level design, the ingeniously placed hidden areas, the need to use your multiple abilities to fully explore levels, and the plentiful forms of new and fascinating wildlife all make Donkey Kong Country Returns a classic, and I'd love Retro use those same element to create a new 2D, home console Metroid game.

This concept art for Retro's Metroid Prime only has me more excited about the idea. From the looks of it, the game originally called for a battle against a six armed ice baboon, and a slightly smaller, spikier version of Kraid from Super Metroid. Can you picture those battles in a new Metroid game that has the graphic fidelity of Metroid Prime, the camera angle of Donkey Kong Country Returns, and the gameplay of Super Metroid?

I think that would be enough to get the haters to forget about Other M, but what do you think? Would you be down for seeing this concept art come to life in a 2D Metroid title?

The art of Greg Luzniak [via Adam Dork's twitter]








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DF's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 14:05
DF
Fighting Porcu-Kraid would've been an absolute blast. I'd love to see a 2D Metroid again.

Other M? What's that? :E
PhilK3nS3bb3n's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 14:06
PhilK3nS3bb3n
Hey not just home consoles I want it on my dsi as well.
Gravityboots000's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 14:15
Gravityboots000
I'd even buy a Wii for it.
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 14:15
The Silent Protagonist
Dunno if I'd want a return to Prime at this point, that approach is well-worn now. I wouldn't mind a 2D version with the first person exploration elements. First Person scanning was sort of half-baked in Other M.

Heck if they could make it so I could play 2D or Prime-style first person, that would be great.
Gravityboots000's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 14:19
Gravityboots000
P.S. I was planning to buy a Wii for Metroid: Other M. But no. A Team Ninja game without a high level of difficulty isn't a Team Ninja game. Man, in my imagination it was going to be good.
eskimo bob's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 14:20
eskimo bob
I love me some good concept art, and this is incredible! Retro has some freaking great artists, I see.
Max Scoville's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 14:27
Max Scoville
Ice Baboon is one of the only known predators of the Squidbear.
Leigh Davidson's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 14:31
Leigh Davidson
The imagination they have over at Retro Studios is awesome, they made a very unique looking game, and in the first game managed to do so using the old fire/snow/jungle template.

I don't know if I'd want Retro back on the Metroid series, they made three fantastic games already. I think it was mentioned on Chad's podcast that Retro should do a Zelda game, I'd really want to see that.
Kraid's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 14:40
Kraid
Baller.
AlexBebop's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 14:43
AlexBebop
That Kraid concept art is awesome! And yes I would love to see a new 2D Metroid game like that, DKC Returns was an absolute blast and I would love to see Retro put their 2D talents into a Metroid game.
Nobunaga Oda's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 14:46
Nobunaga Oda
I don't think nintendo realizes how many times a day I would fap if a game like that was created. I did enjoy other M but it really isn't what I had expected. The next metroid game needs to come out for a new Nintendo system one with HD and just better graphics. The game is just calling for it.
Courtney Johnson's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 14:47
Courtney Johnson
We need a 2.5d remake of Super Metroid for the 3DS!!!
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 14:54
The Silent Protagonist
Meh. Super Metroid does not need remaking.

Fine as is, its aged quite beautifully.
Kanten's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 14:55
Kanten
I've been asking for a 2D Metroid for years now.

As long as it has no contrived forced-waggle nonsense like DKCR.
AllenR's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 15:00
AllenR
If I recall right, there's actually a graphic of Kraid in the original Metroid Prime disc, however it's obviously not used in the game. So it seems like they actually had the idea to put Kraid in Metroid Prime but most assume time basically had to have him be cut out.
Frigidevil's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 15:00
Frigidevil
Yes, yes and a million more times YES!
Frigidevil's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 15:01
Frigidevil
@Max Scoville But how does it stack up against Sharktopus ?
BalloonFighter's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 15:15
BalloonFighter
Even though I enjoyed Other M (didn't see what all the fuss was) I think the series is in need of a return to side scrolling. Agreed , Retro knows what makes a great side scroller and I believe they are the best candidate to make that happen. Who knows what they're up to these days.
ismegamanthere's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 15:18
ismegamanthere
It would be amazing, and Other M was awesome. One of the most underrated games of last year.
BalloonFighter's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 15:21
BalloonFighter
Why did Kraid fall into obscurity while Ripley has been brought back from the dead time and again? I always wondered that. I wouldn't mind if they gave Ripley a break for once and let Kraid be the main villian. He deserves it the fatty.
Yataghan's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 15:26
Yataghan
I remember seeing these a long time ago, back when all that concept art was leaked. It had some truly beautiful stuff in it.
ShadeOfLight's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 15:28
ShadeOfLight
Other M wasn't all that bad, pretty good actually. Haters gonna hate, I guess
But:

"Can you picture those battles in a new Metroid game that has the graphic fidelity of Metroid Prime, the camera angle of Donkey Kong Country Returns, and the gameplay of Super Metroid?"

Will you please never say something like this to me again?
...I'm afraid my head will explode with the sheer amount of win
ultimateshoops's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 15:29
ultimateshoops
Check out Andrew Jones art, it is simply amazing! One of the rare instances I appreciate Nintendo handing over a franchise to America!
GoofierBrute's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 16:09
GoofierBrute
I would love to see Retro do a 2D Metroid, but to be honest, I'd rather like to see what Retro can do on their own. I've often heard people compare Retro to Rare in their prime, but to be honest I'm a little hesitant to say that. Not because their games are bad, but because I just want them to try and do something on their own. I hope with the success of DKC Returns, Nintendo can look at Retro and say "We need you to make us something new and original."
Fuzunga's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 16:14
Fuzunga
Kraid was actually modeled into the game, but later removed.
Fuzunga's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 16:15
Fuzunga
Huge pic is huge, sorry. But you get the idea.
Artemus's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 16:17
Artemus
Yes, DKCR is beyond amazing(still on the last world). Challenging game is challenging.
Also, I miss Kraid... Remember how little and harmless he looked in Metroid?!
GoodGuyA's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 16:27
GoodGuyA
Really, all non-handheld Metroids should be first person. It was such a brilliant and unique concept until Halo really took off, but I won't begrudge anyone for that. I still haven't finished Metroid Prime (due to me being bad at video games and looking at things) but it really is one of the best experiences I've had playing a game. The 3D elements translate as smooth as the black ice I slipped on two days prior and I really hate it when people begrudge the game.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 16:28
Jonathan Holmes
@ Fuzunga- I was looking for that art. I know we've posted about it before, but I couldn't find it.

Thanks for posting it here!

@ The Silent Protagonist- I agree, we don't need a remake of Super Metroid. However, I do think we could use a new game that plays like Super Metroid, but is otherwise all new.

It certainly worked for the Prime games. Each play fundamentally the same, but still have their own distinct strengths and weaknesses. I wish that Super Metroid had also gotten more direct sequels like that.
Scissors's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 16:52
Scissors
I want Retro to make another Metroid game so bad, they understand the series so well. If Retro made a 2.5D game for the 3DS I would shit myself and start foaming from the mouth. I would probably squee the hardest I ever had in my entire life and then go into a coma.

Think about how amazing that would be Fusion came out in 2002 it's been almost 9 years since we had a proper 2D Metroid game. We need a new one bad. Gah I'm still hoping that Metroid Dread will eventually resurface it was said to be a direct sequel to Fusion (my favorite in the series)and was suppose to be 2D
nalor's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 17:02
nalor
IMHO, if you play Super Metroid, then go straight to Other M, you'll enjoy it a lot more. Playing the Prime series games in-between strongly colors your view of what Metroid is all about. They're flat-out amazing games, but they're also very different from the 2D ones.

I mean, for example, I remember reading at least a few reviews where people complained that a lot of the power-ups showed on the map. This has always been the case with 2D Metroid games. There are still lots of hidden ones though in both Super Metroid and Other M.

Another common complaint was that Samus doesn't collect power-ups but rather waits stupidly for authorization. The justification for this was weak, but does it actually MATTER? What else are you going to do, start off mysteriously unarmed again? Start the game already being so powerful nothing poses a threat? Have another scene where your abilities get damaged/malfunction/stolen/forgotten, etc?

Metroid is a game about going through hostile environments, exploring, gradually getting stronger, huge bosses, enemies that move in a set path indefinitely, enemies that self-destruct just to piss you off, etc. Other M was an excellent example of old-school 2D Metroid gameplay, but everyone was expecting another Prime game.
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 17:23
The Silent Protagonist
I always imagined that Samus and Megaman would go out gambling between adventures, but incur debts only their amazing weapon collections would cover.

It would at the very least explain why they always lose their power-ups before a new game.

OK, Samus got explanations in the Prime games, but still, how many times has she had to get that Varia suit now?
RockWallofMight359's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 17:29
RockWallofMight359
@nawoa

The Prime games also had a stronger narrative; there wasn't much of one aside from several cutscenes in between a shit-ton of gameplay. Other M has the total opposite. And the cutscenes cannot be skipped. And the cutscenes are garbage.

I mean it's cool that you liked Other M, but I believe that there should only be one game like that and that the series deserved to be more carefully handled from here on out. Team Ninja tried way too hard to make Metroid Gaiden instead of a new Metroid.
Maniac's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 17:42
Maniac
Needs moar Ridley. Thats the only boss in the Metroid series that ever manages to stand out.
Vedicardi2's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 17:42
Vedicardi2
we really need an HD metroid prime
Artemus's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 18:08
Artemus
@nawoa
I agree with you, man. Other M, far from perfect, was a lot of fun. I played Super Metroid(beat it, of course) and then jumped right into Other M... Awesome. What can you do?! Haters are going to be dumb.
Also, the Metroid series does deserve a new 2D adventure.
OWENR22's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 18:13
OWENR22
Hey Nintendo, Metroid: Dread was a really good idea. Please make that happen.
MrJoe's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 19:13
MrJoe
@nawoa
I disagree. What made Other M fail in my eyes was the lack of exploration elements, a centerpiece of Super Metroid and almost every other game in the series. The game tried a story driven approach and ended up turning the gameplay into a series of goals connected by linear hallways. Honestly, I don't recall a single point in that game where I had more than three paths I could choose to take at any given moment in time, which is absolutely pitiful compared to parts of Super Metroid and the Prime games where you could be completely overwhelmed with the sheer amount of options you were given. After the story proved itself to be almost completely incoherent, I was left wondering why exactly I had spent so much time playing it.

The boss battles were fun, though.
GeneOB's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 19:29
GeneOB
Holy crap.

That Ice Baboon boss looks infinitely better than Thardus.

I'm almost jealous we didn't get that for Phendrana Drifts.
NeuroChems's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 19:32
NeuroChems
@Max Scoville
I was just about to post that exact comment. Good to know someone has their priorities straight. Keep up the good work
Phaazoid's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 19:33
Phaazoid
Meh... Although this concept art is amazing, what really drew me into the metroid series was the first person action. I'd love another FPS metroid. The reason other M turned me off was the inability to really play it as an FPS. exploring huge alien worlds and fighting larger than life boss battles is more fun from the front seat.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 19:39
Xzyliac
@mattodroid
That's a little unfair, don't you think? I wouldn't say it's Other M vs. Prime. There are people who don't like Other M and people who don't like Prime but I wouldn't say there's some kind of divide where the one side praises one and hates the other or vice-versa. There are just games some like and others don't. There's no competition between the two audiences.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 19:41
Jonathan Holmes
@ Phaazoid- Can't you like 2D Metroid and and FPS Metroid?

@ mattrodroid- Isn't it also black/white, left/right thinking to say that there are two types of gamers, those that "follow trends" and those that enjoyed Other M? Isn't it more likely that the game just didn't suit everybody's tastes?

If you really don't see things in absolutes, then you'll be open to the notion that there is no way to objectify measure a game's worth, and the idea that just because you find value in a game, that doesn't mean everyone else can, or even should.
Davoidbot's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 19:51
Davoidbot
There have been 5 2D Metroids, 4 FPS Metroids, and 1 3rd person 3D Metroid. Other M had problems, but it was still a really good game in my opinion. I would love to see the style of play taken advantage of for future metroids, because a 3D-Super-Metroid style game could make for one of the best games of all time if taken to its full potential. I don't think Retro should do the next Metroid ,though, I believe they said they didn't want to be that studio that is only known for Metroid, and it would be awesome to see them make a completely original series.
Noir's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 20:09
Noir
Sure, that would be great, we need a new 2D Metroid.

And is it me, or am I the only one who liked Other M? It was a nice change of pace compared to the Prime games which I just don't like very much. (though personally Fusion is still my favorite)
themizarkshow's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 20:26
themizarkshow
I'm always in the mood for more Metroid. Especially if Retro is back on board. I enjoyed my time with OtherM, but I felt like they could have done it better than Team Ninja did...
Sæglópur's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 21:22
Sæglópur
I love the shit out of Retro. Look at the Prime series and DKC: Returns. That's a class act talented developer right there.
Paperclip's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 21:46
Paperclip
Nah, retro is done with the Metroid games.

Let's start a petition for an Ice Climbers reboot.
Azzerare's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 21:58
Azzerare
Lookin' hot Kraid.
sn275658's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/20/2011 22:16
sn275658
@ Davidbot
Don't forget the pinball game.
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