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Although this is all over the Internet by now, be warned that minor spoilers concerning Metal Gear Solid 4 will be in this post. And on the subject of spoiled minors ...

The BBFC has indirectly caused some controversy, due its rating of the game Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots. The game has a 15+ age rating and contains all the usual themes of violence, blood and bad language. However, one thing that you don't often see in a videogame is "implied child rape," and it seems that Solid Snake's PS3 outing will contain just that.

The British ratings board warns that MGS4 "features one use of strong language and references to suicide and an implied child rape." We know that Olga's daughter, Sunny, will feature in the game ... but who does what, and why? A little unsettling, but a very dark theme for a videogame to tackle. The only other game I know of that at least subtly hinted at that kind of child abuse was Killer 7, although that was just the impression I got from the in-game dialog and could have been misinterpreted. Oh, and that Survival Horror about the big retarded kiddy fiddler who rapes your main character if he gets her.

So ... which MGS character is the dirty, dirty nonce? My money's on Otacon. He just looks the type. 

[Via Akiba's CBlog]








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Jetsetlemming's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 13:46
Jetsetlemming
Forget about the rape, there's ONE use of strong language! Dear lord!
moggle's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 13:46
moggle
I has to be Snake, right? I can't even count the number of old men with eye-patches who've fondled me over the years. It's pretty much their MO.
-PL-'s Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 13:48
-PL-
THIS REMINDS ME OF ONE OF MY JAPANESE ANIMES!
Bioautographical's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 13:49
Bioautographical
I dunno. I vote for good old Noncelot myself.
FreedomToast's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 13:50
FreedomToast
my bets on snakes little robot buddy (whose name escapes me at this moment)
MaximusPaynicus's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 13:53
MaximusPaynicus
Raiden. You heard it here first, people.
Corak's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 13:54
Corak
My dollas are on Vamp. Probably threatning to have "a good time with Sunny" if he gets his hands on her.
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 13:54
king3vbo
THIS REMINDS ME OF JAPAN IN GENERAL
Cataract's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 13:55
Cataract
Solid Snake, just because his name already reeks of innuendo.


And the fact that he's an old man makes him extra creepy.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 13:55
mix
Has to be that dude with all the tentacles......
Cheeburga's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 13:55
Cheeburga
Liquids Arm.
Projectexodus's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 13:59
Projectexodus
Its probably just someone telling about how he/she got raped as a child... I doubt its anything worse than that.
Batthink's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 14:00
Batthink
*SPOILER*

"In his sorrow, Otacon confesses that as a teenager when he lived with Emma [his sister], his stepmother seduced him, after which his father took his own life, something Otacon blames himself for." MGS2 info from Wiki

Now the funny thing is, if 'implied' meant the same way as this revelation was conveyed, then this is a lot of fuss about nothing.

However, in terms of story importance, I think what happened to Otacon might be still haunting him... the money is on him.

*END SPOILER*
Rainbowblack's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 14:06
Rainbowblack
yeah, the lil robot buddy is the culprit!!

snatcher indeed!!
robcat09's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 14:17
robcat09
grow up, people.
episodic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 14:18
episodic
Otacon can touch me up anytime, but that's beside the point. Noncelot sounds good to me.

It is a bit rough for a video game, but I'm sure it wasn't just a "oh we've not been there before" idea, that's not in the Kojima handbook.
Dahk's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 14:19
Dahk
Ryan Payton said this: (via Kotaku)
"There is no mention of rape in the game. There is mention of child trauma, which is probably why they added 'implied.'"
wardrox's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 14:24
wardrox
lol, ok, now I'm getting interested in this game.
monosylabik's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 14:25
monosylabik
things getting blown out of proportion or things just getting blown?

im going with the former.
Trev's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 14:26
Trev
My money is on (shrunk for MGS2 spoilers that really shouldn't be because it's in the tanker section)

Sunny, Olga Gurlukovich's daughter, who was kidnapped by the Patriots as an infant so her well-being could be used to manipulate Olga.

And as Dahk says, they've also said it wasn't rape, just trauma.
Luigi takes over's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 14:34
Luigi takes over
You know I wasn't interested in the release of MGS4 until this bulletin.

My money is on Grandpa snake.
loki d20's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 14:57
loki d20
I'm on the Snake bandwagon with this one, even though I know it's not him but probably just a storyline reference to some past act made by some non-storyline necessary person in her life .

"You know how sensitive she is Snake, especially ever since her teacher was arrested for what he did to her when they were alone."
DJDuffy 's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 15:00
DJDuffy
Well now I'll just have to get a PS3.
mistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 15:18
mistic
I state my previous point ( from when somebody mentioned this on the forum... ) I think its kojima's way of drawing gamers into the game, it was a mega-success on Mass Effect and "Implied Child Rape" just works like honey on flies in Japan :-)
Fiat Mediocrity's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 15:20
Fiat Mediocrity
It's probably just Sunny talking about being taken from her mother and being beaten up by the Patriots.

Big whoop, wanna fight about it?
kezins's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 15:23
kezins
it's going the be the character we suspect the least. What the F is wrong with us today as a society that we're betting on what character is going to rape someone in a game? lol

Perhaps it's because we as gamers realize that games aren't real.. who knows
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 15:38
Holyetheline
In video games child rape is not real. Therefore it doesn't bother me.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 15:45
Jim Sterling
So basically, the BBFC just have dirty minds.

Duly noted.
BlackDove's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 15:49
BlackDove
It's Otacon.

In MGS2 he said he fucked his mom. Or that his mom fucked him.

Whatever.

At any rate, if there's character person to person discussions, it's likely it'll come up again.

Other than that, the usual suspect would be Raiden, being a child soldier, practically anyone could've molested him, especially since he's a girl (he has no male genitalia) and the last obvious one is Olga's daughter featuring some kind of impending rape.

Either way...

Simmy's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 15:51
Simmy
Hell I bet than when playing through the game, we won't even notice what will probably be a very subtle reference - we'll all be too busy looking at the pretties
djricekcn's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 16:01
djricekcn
Silent Hill 2 had child rape with that one girl. Angella? forgot her name. the one that walks up the burning stairs
Bricfa's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 16:08
Bricfa
Forget the implied child trauma, Why does that metal gear look so much like REX?
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 16:34
Jim Sterling
Bricfa:

It IS Rex. Check out one of the latter trailers. It shows something that promises pure orgasms.
david morgar's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 17:24
david morgar
It's gotta be Otacon haunted by being raped by his mom... There's no reason to read too much into it
xenon's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 17:26
xenon
What Survival Horror had such theme? :O
Elrando's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 17:34
Elrando


Snake, why don't you take a seat? Right over there.
catsithx's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 18:27
catsithx
Thats funny as hell Elrando
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 18:42
Wedge
I don't believe you were misinterpreting anything about chillun rape in Killer 7. That's what Dan's whole chapter was about.
scottoid's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 19:09
scottoid
ITS CHRIS HANSON!!!....now we know why snake wants to shoot himself in the trailer.
spacecadetjoe's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 19:11
spacecadetjoe
kojima's tackling the big issues
Zac Bentz's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 20:59
Zac Bentz
Let's not forget Rule of Rose.
3r0t1c n3rd's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/23/2008 21:37
3r0t1c n3rd
Gotta be Snake. That beard says "pedo" from a mile away.
Remoraz's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/24/2008 15:25
Remoraz
There was implied child rape in Final Fantasy Tactics... hey Jim, did the BBFC put that on the PSP version?
I'm betting they didn't since you'd have to read it in text boxes...
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