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Platinum's involvement makes me even more excited, actually. If it's as stylishly fun as Bayonetta was, it'll be great.
I love platinum, fucking love them. But damn this makes me nervous. I want this to be good and I'm sure it will be, but will it be metal gear? Tune in at 11.
I mean, MGS has always been a canonical butt fuck, but seriously? There's no way this can take place after MGS4 and still maintain any sense of continuity. Whatever. I'll probably buy it regardless because any and all impulse control is thrown out the window as soon as the nano machine talk starts up.
I was actually looking foward to stealth with swords and ninja moves. This is good too, and i'm all for platnium games but theidea of playing metal gear with a sword and cutting your enemies at will was something that i found facinating and innovative.
A sad loss, but again, this looks good and fun too.
A sad loss, but again, this looks good and fun too.
Maybe? I really wanted to see where they were going with the original, but sounds like that train has sailed. At least there is distinct from Solid.
Jim, you should have mentioned that Kojima also said on twitter that even if he had done his vision of Rising when the development started, it would still not have felt like MGS.
Here, I found the quote.
"Every time I hand over project to my staff, always get response like "it has to be your Metal", which I don't think so.. I've asked to my ex-RISING team for making a spin-off. I bet many people would have felt "it ain't Metal" even if the ex-RISING would have been unleashed." -Kojima
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/em2nbl
In other words, even the cancelled MGS Rising would have been non-MGS.
"Every time I hand over project to my staff, always get response like "it has to be your Metal", which I don't think so.. I've asked to my ex-RISING team for making a spin-off. I bet many people would have felt "it ain't Metal" even if the ex-RISING would have been unleashed." -Kojima
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/em2nbl
In other words, even the cancelled MGS Rising would have been non-MGS.
I gave up on Metal Gear after #2. Kojima is weird and people see to like that, but I have zero interest in Metal Gear game now.
The thing I can't get over here is my own attachment to the Metal Gear series. The footage that was shown actually looks alright; almost reminds me of God Hand, a little bit, more than No More Heroes. I just can't seem to disconnect myself from the series' history enough to let myself enjoy this for what it is. I've got too much invested into the Metal Gear games for a spin-off like this to appeal to me. For the sake of anyone excited by the change in this title, I hope it's at least a good game, if not a true Metal Gear Solid game.
Also, anyone else find it hilariously ironic that the two main Metal Gear games not developed by Kojima both have Revenge in the title? I wonder if they did that on purpose.
Also, anyone else find it hilariously ironic that the two main Metal Gear games not developed by Kojima both have Revenge in the title? I wonder if they did that on purpose.
Nobody was talking about the cancelled Rising but now all of a sudden people want it back. Where were you three months ago?
As I said in my cBlog about this yesterday, I think this will turn out to be perfectly fine
(Also, look at me, posting in a Jim Sterling blog and not angry about something!)
(Also, look at me, posting in a Jim Sterling blog and not angry about something!)
hopefully with this decision the pc isn't left out as platinum games tends to ignore the call of the master race.
@qlum
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And just like the fall of Hitler was inevitable, so is the fall of all cybernetic web-based applications. Someday a tiny chip will be implemented in every mans testicles that will induce an orgasm at will. And when that day comes, no one will ever need the internet again
Platinum is just taking the ridiculous plot and situations and doing away with any supposed realism. I don't see that as bad thing, just different. I don't think this is any less realistic than other Metal Gears. The dude threw a Tank in the air. So what? He's a cyborg. He break dance fights with a sword and has a really whiny girlfriend who constantly bugged him about their relationship on the most important mission of his life. Does any of that sound particularly realistic to you? Platinum just does away with any pretense of realism by putting it front of your face instead of hiding it behind long-winded plot.
I'm concerned about story and narrative, since those are two things Platinum has yet to perfect. It will probably be a decent iterative action game, but the story needs to match the plausible implausibility of the previous Metal Gear games.
Shame they canceled the original title, I was looking forward to a slower paced action title with minor stealth bits and less emphasis on the killing. Platinum seems to be going a little too far with the EXTREMEHOLYSHITHACKINTOONEBILLIONPIECESWITHVENGENCE stuff. Subtlety is dead.
I'll still likely buy it, since it seems like Platinum and Kojima had enough communication to get at least a decent story out of it and some good gameplay to back it up. Plus I'm a sucker for mecha.
Shame they canceled the original title, I was looking forward to a slower paced action title with minor stealth bits and less emphasis on the killing. Platinum seems to be going a little too far with the EXTREMEHOLYSHITHACKINTOONEBILLIONPIECESWITHVENGENCE stuff. Subtlety is dead.
I'll still likely buy it, since it seems like Platinum and Kojima had enough communication to get at least a decent story out of it and some good gameplay to back it up. Plus I'm a sucker for mecha.
Hideo Kojima couldn't focus the direction in a story? SHOCKING!
Actually, what's really shocking is that 1)he admits it this time and 2)it was cancelled for this reason.
MGS is 2nd only to CoD as most overrated series ever.
Actually, what's really shocking is that 1)he admits it this time and 2)it was cancelled for this reason.
MGS is 2nd only to CoD as most overrated series ever.
This sucks really. The original gameplay for Rising looked miles ahead of this shit.
Now it's your typical hit them 50 times with the sword so they die type of beat em up, which can be fun at times I'll admit... I just expected better from this title. It doesn't even look like it has the stylish gameplay of Devil May Cry or Bayonetta. I've gone from excited to bargain bin purchase. :/
Rising 2010 vs 2011: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKy0-pbGG3w
Now it's your typical hit them 50 times with the sword so they die type of beat em up, which can be fun at times I'll admit... I just expected better from this title. It doesn't even look like it has the stylish gameplay of Devil May Cry or Bayonetta. I've gone from excited to bargain bin purchase. :/
Rising 2010 vs 2011: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKy0-pbGG3w
@DasPooch
Dont know if we read the same article or not, but I thought the main reason was because they couldnt get a focus on the gameplay, it was locked at 30FPS and wasnt smooth, and had complex controls.
Dont know if we read the same article or not, but I thought the main reason was because they couldnt get a focus on the gameplay, it was locked at 30FPS and wasnt smooth, and had complex controls.
Since when is Metal Gear: "weird-but-almost-believable". The first two games had telepathic assassins and vampires, so I don't think "believability" is really an issue. This probably doesn't need to be a Metal Gear game, but at the very least it's a new Platinum game, which is always a good thing.
I like Platinum games, but if this is anything like that shit-show Vanquish, I'm gonna be pissed. I would rather them just work on the Bayonetta sequel.
bulletcurtain: I mean it made sense in the world it was presented in, not believable by our current standards. The weirdness had a kind of grounded normalcy to it. Yes, there were telepaths and telekinetics, but they weren't making giant anime snakes burst out of peoples' heads while wailing guitar music played.
Don't get me wrong, I fucking LOVE Platinum, but when it comes to MGS, I just can't see the franchise taking this direction. I'm hoping for the best, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't at least a little skeptical.
@FPS Baby Jesus
So I'm not the only one who got the vibe that the vanquish team moved onto this?
To be fair Vanquish isn't horrible... It just wasn't great. Kinda generic.
So I'm not the only one who got the vibe that the vanquish team moved onto this?
To be fair Vanquish isn't horrible... It just wasn't great. Kinda generic.
While I'm pretty devastated to find that the Raiden/Cyborg Ninja game I've always wanted has no place in the MGS canon, I am very relieved to find that what I saw in that trailer has no place in the MGS canon. I think the most disappointing part is that the original title was canceled.
However, now that I know that this is just another crazy ass Platinum game - loaded with cyborg ninjas and metal gears - I'm feeling the hype. And if nothing else, I appreciate that Platinum was interested enough in the project to not let it die completely.
However, now that I know that this is just another crazy ass Platinum game - loaded with cyborg ninjas and metal gears - I'm feeling the hype. And if nothing else, I appreciate that Platinum was interested enough in the project to not let it die completely.
@iron dragon that game defined mediocrity. I'm not saying it will be the same game, but the characters and their look are familiar. I thought dude was a ripoff of raiden to be honest. I agree with Jim, the weirdness of Platinum games might not fit with Metal Gear.
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