I uh...yeah.

....hmmm....hooray for crazy conservatives I guess...

For a second I had thought you found something actually explicit *sad face*

fap fap fap @ that video

While I can agree with some of their views on sex because I'm a Christian, that was indeed the lamest sex scene I've ever scene. A 13 year old would be desperate if that's all he can find.

I bet the devs have a totally better version somewhere on their hard drives.

damn it, i was all set then, trouser round my anckles, tissues @ the ready!....ohh well, guess i could always run a search for graphic Smurf porn!... gotta get my blue skin fix somewhere!

WDot says:
01/11/2008 11:08
While I can agree with some of their views on sex because I'm a Christian,

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HAHAHA. now that is funny!

I've seen adds on daytime TV far more explicit than that, these people must be taking too many stupid pills. Also, it's not really homosexuality, seeing as the asari are somewhat gender amibuous. And didn't jesus always say that lesbianism was just fine anyway?

also cox?

I must say my inner gamer and inner christian are fighting a bit while writing this comment. On the one hand I am in agreement that homosexuality and sex outside of marriage are bad things. However, on the other hand they are ignoring certain facts in order to attack this game, such as the M rating, the small scale of the nudity, and the fact the player has to initialize the sex scene. These make me dismiss their arguement, however, in my eyes, an arguement could still be made for the fact the content even exists. But, because of society's standards right now, it's an arguement that would have to spark a cultural shift in order to win.

1 second of bare ass counts for explicit sec now adays?

Ignorance is bliss once again. You old farts! We should be beyond the mentality that video games are for children by now. Oh how dare they add sex to a video game! The poor children. Oh the children! boohoo! Where were the out cries when God of War did it? Twice! Every once in a while one of these ignorant nongamers, somehow comes across a mature game for adults! They see lude content and cry foul! Maybe because they haven't seen a video game since 1983!

What's the real story here for these conservative dinosaurs? SEX in a game or Homosexuality in a game? Children exposed to gays! ahhh! Video Games = children after all.

Um... what the fuck? This is explicit to these prudes? I've seen far worse on daytime soap operas. "OH NO! SHADOWY HEADS IN A DARK ROOM WITH IMPLIED NUDITY! OH GOD, WERE THOSE BUTTOCKS?! HOW VULGAR!!" Give me a break, you closed minded asshats. And I get kind of sick to my stomach watching hardcore porn. This, explicit? Hardly.

And don't you fucking DARE say heterosexuality and homosexuality aren't equal. Honestly, if another person likens gay marriage to marrying an animal, I'm going to choke them.

I thought we needed a new facepalm image. Foster's is cool.

Seriously people, WTF?! Did they even watch the video?

It really offends me when people get offended by things.

Damn, I read the title and figured that some fans had modded in some explicit graphic sex. Turns out it's just religious fanatics being fanatical. Like you said, business as usual.

"characters copulate in full digital nudity."

That should be on the box art.

Also, conservatives are weak sauce. And I'm not a Democrat. You're both a bunch of pretentious extremist douche bags.

Now, I'm a Christian and most of you would probably consider me conservative (though I'm not particularly conservative by usual "Christian" standards), but I have no problem with this scene. If you have to depict a sex scene, this is how I prefer to see it. It's descriptive enough and it gets the scene across very well, but without actually being graphic, asses and curvy parts aside. Tasteful, in other words, and not entirely gratuitous. I'd say, all things considered, that BioWare took the high road.

And again, it's clearly marketed towards adults, not kids. But just try to convince the general public of that. Sigh.

Ugh, Christ. (pun intended) You goddamned Christians need to move into the 21st century. "Homosexuality and sex outside of marriage are very bad and wrong!" That's what parents in the fucking 1950's said about rock and roll music. We've come a long way. Oh wait, no we haven't, because Christianity is still clouding the minds of millions of fucking people who otherwise would have opinions of their own. Goddamnit. Open your fucking eyes.

Yes, I'm talking to the DToid posters who are in concurrence with the opinions of the old fucking conservative asshole fuckers who really think this shit.

(I can haz bonus for lots of swears?)

giggles

Commander!

I still have this game sealed, haven't even gotten to it yet, I think I'm going to save it for the summer drought.

A post... in which I futilely argue with the author of the article and the blatant morons quoted by him (her?) as if they will actually somehow see it and stop being blatant morons.

The game is "clearly marketed to minors," Cathy Ruse, a lawyer and senior fellow for legal studies at the Family Research Council, told Cybercast News Service.

No, Ms. Ruse, it is not. The game is M-rated. Lern 2 reed.

This storyline culminates in a cutscene in which the characters copulate in full digital nudity.

Didn't your parents teach you that lying is wrong, Mr. (or perhaps Ms.? I don't really give a fuck.) Evan Moore? Or did you have some of those shitty parents who don't take responsibility for anything and try to scape-goat everything for their horrible parenting? Or maybe it was the opposite end of the spectrum, and your parents were the up-tight religious types how beat you with a flail merely because you had impure thoughts about a female (or male?). Either one of those could explain this stupidity.

The game is rated "M" for mature

See? Now this directly contradicts your earlier quote from Ms. Ruse that the game is "clearly marketed to minors." Inconsistency is bad and makes you look retarded, Mr. (Ms.?) Moore.

Bob Waliszewki, media specialist with Focus on the Family, told Cybercast News Service, "We never shy away from sexuality in the media. It's just a question of how is that sexuality portrayed. One can use the media to portray some very healthy forms of sexuality. And when done wisely with taste and age-appropriateness, it can be done well."

"Unfortunately," he said, "Mass Effect doesn't do that and even goes so far as to allow homosexuality to be on par with heterosexuality and heterosexuality outside of its proper context of marriage."

Did you have a point in there somewhere, Mr. Bob Waliszewki, or do you just like hearing sound coming out of your face?

Ruse said, "I don't know if people are really aware about what's in this game, but [the people who made it] should lose a lot of money, and they should lose consumer confidence, because this is a stupid move."

No, Ms. Ruse, what is stupid is railing on and on regarding something about which you obviously don't have the slightest clue, making yourself look like a damn fool in the process.

"People try to raise a straw-man argument and say that people from my perspective are saying that everyone who views something is going to go out and become a serial sex killer. Nobody's saying that," Ruse said.

No, Ms. Ruse. Wrong again. Jack Thompson most assuredly has said exactly that, and has said it quite often. You just haven't done your homework on this at all, have you? But... I'll allow that Jack Thompson and those like him are "nobody," so I'll give you that one, in this case.

"But, it is profoundly naive to suggest that feeding children graphic sexual material is going to have no effect on their psyche. That's just stupid to think that," she added.

That's true, in a broad sense. However, since what is in Mass Effect obviously isn't "graphic sexual material," you're making a non sequitur in the context of this particular discussion.

"This is about money," Ruse said. "This isn't about a First Amendment debate. This is about [BioWare] making as much money as it can. It's putting elements in its games which they think will help them sell more games. They don't care about what they're doing to kids."

They're not doing anything to kids, you dumb bitch. Not intentionally at any rate, as you keep implying. THE. GAME. IS. RATED. M.

She concluded, "This is unethical, and they have a duty to be good corporate citizens. There's no First Amendment right to exploit children ... They're making money at the expense of children in America, and they ought to be vilified for that."

You keep saying children. Children children children. Once again, does the big fat M - Mature 17+ - Content Rated By ESRB label on the front of the box not mean anything to you, or are you just blind?

"When parental involvement is at a high level," Waliszewki said, the warning labels provided by the ESRB could deter children from being exposed to inappropriate material. But he warned that "in many cases, where parents are less involved and oblivious to the world of entertainment these days, an 'M' rating is almost a badge of endorsement."

And this is the fault of the game... how? You said it yourself, "where parents are less involved and oblivious to the world". That's the problem. Period.

"Parents really just need to be involved in [their children's] entire entertainment world," he said. "There's just too much gunk out there for parents to be 'hands-off.' They have to be involved. They have to know ... what their kids are into in today's entertainment."

Finally, someone in this god-awful article says something worthwhile.

Ruse noted that "most states have what's called 'Harmful to Minors' laws on the books that say that selling sexual material that a jury would deem 'patently offensive to minors, which lacks literary, artistic, political or scientific value.' ... might be prosecutable."

And, yet again, Ms. Ruse, what in the high holy fuck does this have to do with Mass Effect?

However, she also noted that these laws are "very likely not enforced." Rather than new laws, "we need state and local prosecutors with spines and backbones to prosecute some of these companies that are violating the law" in order to prevent children from being exposed to indecent material, she said.

If there were any violations of the law actually occurring, I would totally agree with you. However, since this is not occurring, the only thing I can gather from this is that Cathy Ruse, a lawyer and senior fellow for legal studies at the Family Research Council, is a huge fucking idiot.