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Guess I'm on the "meh" side. I mean personally, I've never seen the stock photo, so I never would've known. Now that I see the photo, yeah, it seems lazy, but I'm not really gonna throw a fit about it.
Anyone who is actually outraged by this needs to go outside for a few seconds and be an actual human being for a while. Perhaps smelling something other than smegma, farts, cheeto breath, and cum ridden paper towels will do you some fucking good.
I dont quite understand. Bioware just took a random image off the internet and did some quick photoshop to use for Talis face?
@Jim Sterling
I'm under the impression that either you only read that one sentence or I need to rephrase my comment.
I mean, yes, this is a relatively minor spoiler that wouldn't, or rather shouldn't, ruin someones experience with the game. What I was trying to get across is that it's another spoiler I've seen on this site; second on a list that I hope is not growing.
I'm under the impression that either you only read that one sentence or I need to rephrase my comment.
I mean, yes, this is a relatively minor spoiler that wouldn't, or rather shouldn't, ruin someones experience with the game. What I was trying to get across is that it's another spoiler I've seen on this site; second on a list that I hope is not growing.
Wow I'm amazed how many people are defending this. It's not them using a picture for reference they literally just took the picture put it in game, added some weird tattoos, and cut out 2 fingers. For the ending of their "epic" trilogy that's pathetically lazy.
First with TOR planets using Earth textures, every TOR race being a straight cut+paste job, then the ME3 ending ripped straight off of google images... and now this...
Don't give me that crap about being on a tight budget, they're being supported by E-FREAKING-A, one of (if not) THE biggest gaming publishers in the world. They (apparently) have a large team of talented artists, and the best they could come up with for a character everybody has been waiting 5 years to see is a god damn badly edited stock image.
People on Reddit have been having competitions to see who can use photoshop to recreate the same image and some shops were up within minutes displaying even better artistry than Bioware themselves.
And on a humorous note, Bioware have been mass deleting forum posts about this on their official boards. Thank fuck some gaming sites still have some balls about them unlike some *cough*Kotaku*cough*.
Don't give me that crap about being on a tight budget, they're being supported by E-FREAKING-A, one of (if not) THE biggest gaming publishers in the world. They (apparently) have a large team of talented artists, and the best they could come up with for a character everybody has been waiting 5 years to see is a god damn badly edited stock image.
People on Reddit have been having competitions to see who can use photoshop to recreate the same image and some shops were up within minutes displaying even better artistry than Bioware themselves.
And on a humorous note, Bioware have been mass deleting forum posts about this on their official boards. Thank fuck some gaming sites still have some balls about them unlike some *cough*Kotaku*cough*.
You mean the entire franchise isn't inconsequential? That must be one hell of a third game to make up for TWO whole games worth of meaningless mediocrity.
the ending scene with the boy and his grandpa also was a stock image
honestly, this whole game just screamed lazyness, all the good bits were things built up from the first 2 games
honestly, this whole game just screamed lazyness, all the good bits were things built up from the first 2 games
@tremault:
"Reference" implies that you used your own perspective and talent to draw something from scratch based upon a photo, model, etc. This is basically just photo manipulation. It's the same photo with a filter change and some very minor drawing.
"Reference" implies that you used your own perspective and talent to draw something from scratch based upon a photo, model, etc. This is basically just photo manipulation. It's the same photo with a filter change and some very minor drawing.
I mean, I don't get it. Are we supposed to deal with the fact that Quarians are just humans with weird immune systems?
I don't care about the stock image -- it just doesn't make any sense.
I don't care about the stock image -- it just doesn't make any sense.
Then again, they retconned what the batarians looked like.
They can always rework what quarians look like.
They can always rework what quarians look like.
OT: This was either incredibly lazy on Bioware's part, or incredibly short-sighted on the director's part. If they were planning on it being artistic, or stylistic on the approach to how they reveal it, then they seriously messed up. Or, they were just desperate to cut corners. Either way, it was a screw-up on their part, IMO.
im in the middle. i think it should have ben something better but then again who cares, at least her face isnt shit.
Pretty lady but shame bioware. Pandering and laziness. Tali should've never been unmasked or been really Fucking alien. Not another hot chick.
I was expecting her to look freaky and alien under there. How disappointing.
Honestly, they never should have shown her face at all. It's kind of like when Evey is considering unmasking V in V for Vendetta. No matter who it was under there, it could never live up to your expectations.
Honestly, they never should have shown her face at all. It's kind of like when Evey is considering unmasking V in V for Vendetta. No matter who it was under there, it could never live up to your expectations.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QLz0CqtMVc
This video explains a bit of the problems with the game. It's a pretty good video.
This video explains a bit of the problems with the game. It's a pretty good video.
thats pretty fucking lazy and i would consider myself a bioware lover (not fanatic fanboy but i love their games)
I played through ME1 again in its entirety to have a romance free shepard for ME2 so I could romance Tali with no repercussions come ME3, and this is how they wrap that up? With a shopped photo? I mean, she's cute, and all, but seriously? No visit to her home planet at least? Man, I don't even want to play this anymore. My Shepard character just got a lot less valuable.
That's hilarious, lol.
What's even more funny though is that when you think about it, all of Mass Effect's character designs are this lazy. All they did for the whole game is find an actor they like and copy their face. The only design was really from the neck up, and that was just copy and pasted. The rest is just standard space suit. So yeah, this is really just par for the course in a game with very lazy character designs.
What's even more funny though is that when you think about it, all of Mass Effect's character designs are this lazy. All they did for the whole game is find an actor they like and copy their face. The only design was really from the neck up, and that was just copy and pasted. The rest is just standard space suit. So yeah, this is really just par for the course in a game with very lazy character designs.
I'm just dissappointed to see that she's basically human. She really needed a tentacled vagina face.
Jim, stop being a smug prick. This is something that has been built up since the first Mass Effect. To throw it up on the front page (the day of launch, mind you) is pretty lame. It's not ruining the full game but come on. I didn't even realize that Tali was going to be shown unmasked until you posted this story on the only vidoegame website I go to.
Anything for a couple hundred page hits, right Jim?
Anything for a couple hundred page hits, right Jim?
It happens countless times in anime, manga, comics, movies, TV shows, etc etc.
Just because the hypercritical sleuths aren't on the case, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Just because the hypercritical sleuths aren't on the case, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
....Can I just play a big budget release for once without spoilers? Do I really have to turn off the internet completely here? I couldn't even go on youtube without seeing IGN having uploaded the motherfucking endings to the motherfucking game. At least wait a couple of weeks!
It's pathetic. This is no different than some retard explaining the force is bacteria or whatever.
Talis face, and her race are major story elements, they have their own lore. People get invested into game stories just as much as others get into TV, movie or book stories.
And while this may seem nonimportant to many this is the Phantom Menance, Indiana 4 or Spiderman 3 to those invested.
It also makes you wonder, if Bioware was lazy on this major lore element, what ELSE were they lazy with?
Talis face, and her race are major story elements, they have their own lore. People get invested into game stories just as much as others get into TV, movie or book stories.
And while this may seem nonimportant to many this is the Phantom Menance, Indiana 4 or Spiderman 3 to those invested.
It also makes you wonder, if Bioware was lazy on this major lore element, what ELSE were they lazy with?
Those raging about this must be either forgetful or just have a predisposition for nerd-rage. Really, what they've done here is not all that different from what they have done with the other characters, namely that all the main ME cast are based on real world models, from default Shepard down to Liara and on and on.
With Tali, since you don't see her face in a live cut-scene, they just combined two elements; instead of just basing it on a model they took a reference photo that already existed and added the skin tone and other cosmetic/alien additions they would have if they had gone the normal design route for showing Tali speaking with her mask off.
The woman in the Getti Stock photo is Tali much in the same way Mark Vanderloo is Shepard and Yvonne Strahovski is Miranda and so on.
With Tali, since you don't see her face in a live cut-scene, they just combined two elements; instead of just basing it on a model they took a reference photo that already existed and added the skin tone and other cosmetic/alien additions they would have if they had gone the normal design route for showing Tali speaking with her mask off.
The woman in the Getti Stock photo is Tali much in the same way Mark Vanderloo is Shepard and Yvonne Strahovski is Miranda and so on.
There's a difference between artists using a picture as a reference and flat out altering an existing picture.
The tali face thing was something the fans where invested in, just changing a picture of some random around a bit is pathetic.
Ultimately the fact the she looks human is just pandering to their creepy as fuck fanbase, fuck BioWare.
The tali face thing was something the fans where invested in, just changing a picture of some random around a bit is pathetic.
Ultimately the fact the she looks human is just pandering to their creepy as fuck fanbase, fuck BioWare.
Those raging about this must be either forgetful or just have a predisposition for nerd-rage. Really, what they've done here is not all that different from what they have done with the other characters, namely that all the main ME cast are based on real world models, from default Shepard down to Liara and on and on.
With Tali, since you don't see her face in a live cut-scene, they just combined two elements; instead of just basing it on a model they took a reference photo that already existed and added the skin tone and other cosmetic/alien additions they would have if they had gone the normal design route for showing Tali speaking with her mask off.
The woman in the Getti Stock photo is Tali much in the same way Mark Vanderloo is Shepard and Yvonne Strahovski is Miranda and so on.
With Tali, since you don't see her face in a live cut-scene, they just combined two elements; instead of just basing it on a model they took a reference photo that already existed and added the skin tone and other cosmetic/alien additions they would have if they had gone the normal design route for showing Tali speaking with her mask off.
The woman in the Getti Stock photo is Tali much in the same way Mark Vanderloo is Shepard and Yvonne Strahovski is Miranda and so on.
I hate it. Between this and the Winter Space picture, Bioware has shown nothing but deliberate laziness.
@joseph berdecia - it's not so much a problem of using a real person's face as a model, it's the absolute lack of effort they put into what was, for me, a major plot point. They might as well have just given a text ending for the game that said: you killed the reapers! yay!
REALLY? I was on 4chan and dismissed this as a joke. That's BAAAAAAAAAAD. Hopefully this isn't true.
Pathetic! Whoever is responsible should be fired, no, not just fired, but BANNED from every working in any creative industry ever again. And the Photoshop work on the eyes is equally pathetic.
"Jim, stop being a smug prick. This is something that has been built up since the first Mass Effect. To throw it up on the front page (the day of launch, mind you) is pretty lame. It's not ruining the full game but come on. I didn't even realize that Tali was going to be shown unmasked until you posted this story on the only vidoegame website I go to.
Anything for a couple hundred page hits, right Jim?"
Agreed. What a sleezy slob.
Anything for a couple hundred page hits, right Jim?"
Agreed. What a sleezy slob.
@Fellblade
I'm right there with you, brother. Helping Tali and her people find a homeworld where they could breathe freely was something I've been pining over since I played her loyalty mission in ME2. I've been hoping for the face reveal since ME1. I can't begin to express how disappointing that is to me. I cared more about that than saving Earth from Reapers. Seriously. I almost hope they release it as a DLC quest.
I'm right there with you, brother. Helping Tali and her people find a homeworld where they could breathe freely was something I've been pining over since I played her loyalty mission in ME2. I've been hoping for the face reveal since ME1. I can't begin to express how disappointing that is to me. I cared more about that than saving Earth from Reapers. Seriously. I almost hope they release it as a DLC quest.
I've never played and don't care (yet) about Mass Effect games, but I'm still a bit stunned at the disregard it requires to decide to use a stock photograph. I've been under the impression that stock photography is usually made use of by independent designers and small businesses working on a low budget- not giants of their respective industries.
I say that, but then again, I did notice creative-common licensed stock photography being sold as posters in IKEA last week.
It just disgusts me when the resources are available and shortcuts are taken to Not put something new into the world, but reuse something that's free or worth a cup of coffee.
Frakkin' cheapasses.
I say that, but then again, I did notice creative-common licensed stock photography being sold as posters in IKEA last week.
It just disgusts me when the resources are available and shortcuts are taken to Not put something new into the world, but reuse something that's free or worth a cup of coffee.
Frakkin' cheapasses.
The most ironic thing about this is that EA Games supports SOPA but apparently has zero problems ripping off stock images for use in what's supposedly a AAA title.
Considering the fact that the story is allegedly a selling point of this game, it's lazy as fuck and a failure to have an ms paint job picture of a human to be the culmination of a Tali subplot for the hardcore fans.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't Quarians have less fingers and differently shaped faces?
I'll probably pass on this for the same reason I skipped the last season of Lost
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't Quarians have less fingers and differently shaped faces?
I'll probably pass on this for the same reason I skipped the last season of Lost
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