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Just imagine, after downloading the 5GB Extended Cut, the additional ending cinematic sequences and scenes all turn out to be a troll ending. I've got my fingers crossed, and hope to hear the news from the people who play it.
From what I understand Jennifer Hale didn't get a call from BW and neither did Mark Meer, so I assume fans will be mad as hell.
So since its free, I assume that means everyone that was attempting to get their money back from a childrens' charity will stop.
IM A FAN AND I KNOW HOW EVERY SCI FI EPIC SHOULD BE BECAUSE I KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT THE FICTION AND WHAT THE CREATOR WANTS IT TO BE. If it's not like the I'll rage, if it is like that I'll write it off as being predictable.
@Shane86 OH MY GOD THE BASTARDS! THEY'RE GIVING AWAY PREVIOUSLY PLANNED DLC FOR FREE?! KILL THEM! KILL THEM ALL!
(don't kill them)
(don't kill them)
Well if they indeed had to actually "reprioritize" their DLC plans to make this free extended cut DLC for ME3 then I'm pretty impressed, and to o it for no charge and do what the fans have clamored for is a nice gesture from Bioware/EA.
So, I'm thinking text summaries, Jade Empire style. It doesn't sound like they're actually changing the narrative - just adding more context. Thus, those hoping that space-Alvin was going away are likely doomed to disappointment.
From the announcement, it sounds like they're not changing anything, but rather expanding on it to offer clarity, and to maintain the original artistic vision. So the ending stays the same, but it'll be a lot less confusing. I'm happy with that.
Fuck you, Mass Effect 3 whiners. This is why video games aren't respected as an art form.
By the way, I fucking love Mass Effect.
By the way, I fucking love Mass Effect.
I wasn't thrilled with the ending, nor was I offended by it. What was there, I was fine with. I did feel a little unsettled just because I wasn't sure what I was supposed to take from the final scenes, or if i was supposed to take anything from it at all, or even if the entire point was that the game was about my choices so that I was just supposed to decide what happens after that.
That being said.. I'm glad they didn't CHANGE the ending because of these whiny kids. And I'm ok with some added context being thrown on top.
That being said.. I'm glad they didn't CHANGE the ending because of these whiny kids. And I'm ok with some added context being thrown on top.
Since it's free I have literally nothing to complain about.
I thought the whole ending controversy was a ploy to sell us a better ending, but it being free is great.
I thought the whole ending controversy was a ploy to sell us a better ending, but it being free is great.
The only people who liked the ending or thought it was decent know f*** all about Mass Effect. Read the codex and go read the books and realise why the ending is balls.
No matter what they do at this point, the "fans" will never be happy. Its not going to be exactly what they want, so it will be terrible.
At least BW's trying though. But yeah I agree that this was most likely the plan all along, minus the free thing.
At least BW's trying though. But yeah I agree that this was most likely the plan all along, minus the free thing.
@Firestorm2117
Yep same here. I didn't hate the ME3 ending, but I wouldn't mind seeing further explanation added. The game had much bigger issues that the a crappy ending was not on the top of the list of things to worry about for me.
Yep same here. I didn't hate the ME3 ending, but I wouldn't mind seeing further explanation added. The game had much bigger issues that the a crappy ending was not on the top of the list of things to worry about for me.
@Gamernerd101 It seems like your in favor of lazy quick endings being slapped on the end of a game you spent money on. The team had 8 writers only 1 of them worked on the ending instead of being a group effort like the rest of the games were.
I was fine with the ending how it was but could see why some were disappointed in it. The levels it reached to display that disappointment for some were downright ridiculous but hey, that's internet for you. After watching the latest Jimquisition I can see how this could be a positive thing. I'll just wait and see. This feels like a fairly important moment for video games, ya know?
If this works and the fans, minus the raging internet fanboys and silly white people, can actually help provide constructive criticism in such a powerful and direct manner, I dunno, seems like it could push the medium forward in some way. Then again, if its just some bullshit happy ending like the did with Brazil, then Bioware and the fans gain nothing. So yeah, I'll wait and see but I have hope this will end up being a positive for everyone involved.
If this works and the fans, minus the raging internet fanboys and silly white people, can actually help provide constructive criticism in such a powerful and direct manner, I dunno, seems like it could push the medium forward in some way. Then again, if its just some bullshit happy ending like the did with Brazil, then Bioware and the fans gain nothing. So yeah, I'll wait and see but I have hope this will end up being a positive for everyone involved.
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@Chris Carter
Yeah I won't argue that but I think the plan all along was to charge for it so a small victory I guess. More of a delay of the inevitable.
Who knows maybe that golden turd actually shook them up more than they let on?
I just hope the extended cut is more coherent than the initial ending they offered. Remember EA/Bioware it doesn't have to be "happy" just not "ZOMFG WTF that doesn't make any sense!"
Yeah I won't argue that but I think the plan all along was to charge for it so a small victory I guess. More of a delay of the inevitable.
Who knows maybe that golden turd actually shook them up more than they let on?
I just hope the extended cut is more coherent than the initial ending they offered. Remember EA/Bioware it doesn't have to be "happy" just not "ZOMFG WTF that doesn't make any sense!"
@wanderingpixels Or how about we make an anime, a game and a CG movie to give more context and explanation to Final Fantasy VII's vague flashy light show ending and 500 years later epilogue... oh wait
@wanderingpixels
It wasn't ever about the ending being a sad panda it was about the lapse in quality and glaring plot inconsistencies.
Sorta like reading a novel written by one author and getting to the last chapter to find out it had been written by some hack who had only loosely glanced over the crib notes for the book.
It wasn't ever about the ending being a sad panda it was about the lapse in quality and glaring plot inconsistencies.
Sorta like reading a novel written by one author and getting to the last chapter to find out it had been written by some hack who had only loosely glanced over the crib notes for the book.
The people that are screaming games as art should realize that AAA titles are made for profit and are very formulated from known selling points. There is probably just as much "art" that is cut from the game because of budgets. The big boys of this industry are in it for the money, not the art. I don't disagree that games can be art, but I wouldn't consider anything art that is created purely for profit. Its funny that when an artist changes their style for profit they are usually called a sell-out, but fanboys will defend AAA titles all day.
My only question is, if Bioware had to "reprioritize" their DLC plans to make this free extended cut DLC for ME3. Then what original DLC is getting pushed out because of this. Perhaps it was more single player content or new multiplayer maps?? Now we'll never know.
@Wanderingpixels
Even though every other art form, besides actual art, has done this?
Even though a large number of fans don't care about if it ends happily, they just want an ending that isn't riddled with plot holes, breaks characters and goes against the themes put forth over the last five years?
Revisions to endings aren't what's stopping gaming from being a completely accepted art form. People accepting shit on their plate and asking for seconds, just because the shit's been shaped like Michelangelo's David, is what's holding the medium back.
Buttfuck it, there will never be a consensus on anything that exists. Some people just really, really love excrement.
Kudos to BioWare, regardless, for making this move in the first place. Don't care if I get a happy ending, I just want an ending.
Even though every other art form, besides actual art, has done this?
Even though a large number of fans don't care about if it ends happily, they just want an ending that isn't riddled with plot holes, breaks characters and goes against the themes put forth over the last five years?
Revisions to endings aren't what's stopping gaming from being a completely accepted art form. People accepting shit on their plate and asking for seconds, just because the shit's been shaped like Michelangelo's David, is what's holding the medium back.
Buttfuck it, there will never be a consensus on anything that exists. Some people just really, really love excrement.
Kudos to BioWare, regardless, for making this move in the first place. Don't care if I get a happy ending, I just want an ending.
If this ends up being "Text" epilogues then fuck it, worthless piece of shit. Have no place in Mass Effect. Hell even a Fallout style epilogue has no place in Mass Effect. You live as Shepard and you see things AS Shepard, not some loose ends tying god that will just be retconned in a sequel because the writers had a change of heart whenever/if ever they develop another post series timeline title.
@Onyx
"If this ends up being "Text" epilogues then fuck it, worthless piece of shit. Have no place in Mass Effect."
I think you might end up being very disappointed then, because this is precisely what a whole lot of people were specifically requesting, and it certainly would be the easiest way to go about it.
I'm with you though, that sounds ridiculous.
"If this ends up being "Text" epilogues then fuck it, worthless piece of shit. Have no place in Mass Effect."
I think you might end up being very disappointed then, because this is precisely what a whole lot of people were specifically requesting, and it certainly would be the easiest way to go about it.
I'm with you though, that sounds ridiculous.
@Scuffles
The ending sucked, but I don't see why people put all of their rage there. There was a lot of bad writing throughout the entire game. It's so easy to tell what was written by Bioware's good writers like Drew whateverhislastnameis and what was probably written after he left.
The ending sucked, but I don't see why people put all of their rage there. There was a lot of bad writing throughout the entire game. It's so easy to tell what was written by Bioware's good writers like Drew whateverhislastnameis and what was probably written after he left.
This does not excite me. The endings that are there are not good. If a turd is crystal clear, it is still a turd. Lack of clarity was only one of the problems with the ending. The additional epilogue scenes are a good start, but that and the hopefully patching a few of the plot holes does not change how much the ending threw out what made Mass Effect great, and completely disregarded a trilogy of choices. In the words of one Urdnot Wrex, "Don't piss in my ear and tell me its raining."
I do not believe Bioware is obligated to offer a full fix, nor were they obligated to do this half-ass extension. They certainly weren't obligated to do it for free. But don't call me entitled because I'm unsatisfied with a crap portion of a title and I want to lobby for it to be fixed. I'd be ecstatic to pay for a proper fix. I'm disappointed its not coming. For such a great game and a fantastic trilogy to end like this is a shame.
I do not believe Bioware is obligated to offer a full fix, nor were they obligated to do this half-ass extension. They certainly weren't obligated to do it for free. But don't call me entitled because I'm unsatisfied with a crap portion of a title and I want to lobby for it to be fixed. I'd be ecstatic to pay for a proper fix. I'm disappointed its not coming. For such a great game and a fantastic trilogy to end like this is a shame.
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I would like to, regardless of the topic (which, is awesome btw. Glad to hear Bioware are listening to the point where they understand that they didn't really fulfil their obligation to us from hyping it up the way they did) congratulate everyone's use of Bryan Danielson's latest gimmick.
Yes, it's Bryan Danielson. Just as it's also Tyler Black.
I would like to, regardless of the topic (which, is awesome btw. Glad to hear Bioware are listening to the point where they understand that they didn't really fulfil their obligation to us from hyping it up the way they did) congratulate everyone's use of Bryan Danielson's latest gimmick.
Yes, it's Bryan Danielson. Just as it's also Tyler Black.
You know where i see this leading, focous groups.
I can easily see the big publishers bringing in random street schlubs to look at some stuff and decide on changes based on their reactions.
Which will make every game the same pretty soon, just like how hollywood movies all feel like the same 10 movies eternaly remade.
I can easily see the big publishers bringing in random street schlubs to look at some stuff and decide on changes based on their reactions.
Which will make every game the same pretty soon, just like how hollywood movies all feel like the same 10 movies eternaly remade.
I really do not understand the whole "artistic integrity BS"
Having not played the third game yet (still enjoying the first one) I really have no clue how the ending is bad except that many people say it cones down to three different colored beams...
that is pretty pathetic given the fact the whole series is based on that you "choices" change the world. I would have to agree with Ben Croshaw that it is really dumb that you can skip "ALL" of the side missions and get the same ending.
Generally most games give you a darn good reason to play through the side missions (extra characters, endings and content)
For a game that plot is not terribly different from a "choose your own adventure book" to have one singular ending to the whole series is dumb.
That is why artistic integrity in this game should be thrown out, because the developers for some dumb reason cannot understand their own product... which is really a horrible place for them to be in.
This is almost as bad as Lucas putting Darth Vader screaming "NOOOOOOOO! NOOOOOO!"
Having not played the third game yet (still enjoying the first one) I really have no clue how the ending is bad except that many people say it cones down to three different colored beams...
that is pretty pathetic given the fact the whole series is based on that you "choices" change the world. I would have to agree with Ben Croshaw that it is really dumb that you can skip "ALL" of the side missions and get the same ending.
Generally most games give you a darn good reason to play through the side missions (extra characters, endings and content)
For a game that plot is not terribly different from a "choose your own adventure book" to have one singular ending to the whole series is dumb.
That is why artistic integrity in this game should be thrown out, because the developers for some dumb reason cannot understand their own product... which is really a horrible place for them to be in.
This is almost as bad as Lucas putting Darth Vader screaming "NOOOOOOOO! NOOOOOO!"
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