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Mass Effect 2 to be dark like the Empire Strikes Back photo

Like a good little space opera, the Mass Effect series is following in the footsteps of the Star Wars trilogy. Greg Zeschuk of BioWare recently told IGN (via VG247) that Mass Effect 2 is set to have an Empire Strikes Back kind of vibe. Said to be darker and harder, the game will follow in the footsteps of the grittier and dreary George Lucas-less flick.

"Yeah we have definitely designed it in that fashion," Zeschuk said. “If you recall, Empire Strikes Back was the darker chapter and that is how we designed the ME2 story and experience: to try and make the player reflect on the challenges of the character. If you put ME2 next to the original it is definitely a darker, harder game."

The teasers haven’t had rainbows and butterflies, and the E3 2009 presentation wasn’t particularly rosy -- Commander Shepard is on a suicide mission. It’ll be interesting to see how dark BioWare is willing to go with this follow-up








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DaedHead8's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 08:24
DaedHead8
You can compare this game to my favorite SciFi (Syfy?) film of all time and I still won't be interested in it. Sorry.
Cr0ssbow's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 08:40
Cr0ssbow
@DaedHead8

Whyever for?
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 08:50
Chris Carter
@Dead
Mass Effect 1 is one of the best games I've played in my entire life. And I'm an Eastern RPG junkie.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 08:54
Tubatic
If this means my heroic third chapter will be chock full of Wrex and all these other jokers are already dead, then I'm very fine with that!

Also, this could be the reason so many of the characters are generically "unlikable" (to be honest, they're fine). Nothing makes a second chapter darker than having to do all your awesome space stuff without your established crew that you actually already like.
CRAZYAPE69's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 08:58
CRAZYAPE69
fingers crossed 2 wont have ewok life beings
CRAZYAPE69's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 08:59
CRAZYAPE69
sorry make that 3
CRAZYAPE69's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 08:59
CRAZYAPE69
and ewok like beings#
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 09:04
Xzyliac
@DaedHead8
Ohmigod dude. You're a fool. A poor, poor, fool. I pity you and your blindness.

Anywho this is the formula every trilogy ever made in all the history of time and forever. It'd be really difficult to make a trilogy that doesn't follow the tried and true formula.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 09:32
Tubatic
@Xzyliac

To be fair, I've straight up FALLEN ASLEEP while playing this game, due to its ultra sterile sci-fi atmosphere. If I'm anywhere near tired or sleepy, I absolutely cannot play a saved game from the Normandy. True Story.

Also, item management is busted.

Also, the at-your-own-pace progression allows for an awkward lack of direction and urgency at some parts, in what seems like a crazy urgent situation.

Also, the planets you visit are mostly uninhabited aside from hostile raiders and sandworms.

Also, everyone looks kind of funny.

And Jim Sterling thinks its shit.

But aside from all that, it IS a pretty stellar RPG experience! :D :D :D
CloneTrooper's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 09:41
CloneTrooper
@Tubatic.

Yeah, those things were a bit niggling by the 9th Playthrough but hey. You learn to live with these things, and for Bioware's first 360 RPG...it was a massively good effort.

Its the reason I bought a 360. Looking forward to the much improved 2nd installment.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 09:42
Xzyliac
To be fair, I've straight up FALLEN ASLEEP while playing this game, due to its ultra sterile sci-fi atmosphere. If I'm anywhere near tired or sleepy, I absolutely cannot play a saved game from the Normandy. True Story. You need more sleep

Also, item management is busted. True. Don't care

Also, the at-your-own-pace progression allows for an awkward lack of direction and urgency at some parts, in what seems like a crazy urgent situation. Never had that problem.

Also, the planets you visit are mostly uninhabited aside from hostile raiders and sandworms. True. Still don't care.

Also, everyone looks kind of funny. You look funny.

And Jim Sterling thinks its shit. Bias.

But aside from all that, it IS a pretty stellar RPG experience! :D :D :D Iknowright?!?

Mass Effect isn't the best thing on the planet. It has flaws no doubt. But dammit it's so good. I have a laundry list of bitching about ME but I'm still playing it for the third time. It's kind of like listening to a song you know is repetitive and uncreative but you like it anyway and don't know why. Not to mention it's the only game I've seen to do the be good or be bad thing right.
Your Moms Hot Lover's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 09:45
Your Moms Hot Lover
I'm actually through playing the original mass effect for the first time right now, and yes it has some faults, glitches, the autosave sucks, the combat ain't great. But despite that it is by far and away the most compelling RPG I've played. If they fix those issues for number two it will be something really special.

But hey, I care about dialog and story so you know, sue me.

And before anyone gets in talking about how it is ripping off star wars xyzliac is right, it's not something George Lucas invented.

Google: Monomyth or "the hero's journey". Ancient myths like Osiris, Jesus Christ, Buddha etc all follow this pattern.
loki d20's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 09:55
loki d20
This game isn't the greatest RPG experience for me (thank you Planescape: Torment), but it is in the top 10. The funny thing is that a ton of what I like about the game was brought over from Planescape: Torment. I'm hoping they streamline much of the game in the second, but as long as the storytelling and rpg elements are the same, I'll be a happy camper.
HEL105's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 09:55
HEL105
ME2 simply CANNOT get here quickly enough. If I had to choose between it and FFXIII, I would probably grab both and run off into the woods laughing like a lunatic.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 09:58
Chris Carter
@Tubatic
Agreed, agreed...and agreed!

Although if you were to let those nuances ruin one of the best space operas to ever grace your TV screen: I feel for you. I'm with Xzyliac: I was FLOORED by many of the shitty problems ME had, nearly throwing my controller in disgust.

But God damn! It's so good!
IzekialRage's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 10:09
IzekialRage
First thing i'm doing is traveling at 50 times the speed of light and murdering subject zero. Only then will I be able to enjoy this space epic.
ElectroZack's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 10:14
ElectroZack
Now that you can play it from your Hard drive, the game isn't nearly as frustrating. I would always have to save before getting in a elevator to avoid the game freezing. 23 hours in and no locked up game.
DaedHead8's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 10:33
DaedHead8
Sorry guys, but the knights of the old republic formula doesn't do it for me (Except for Jade Empire, gawd I love that game). It's why I never played Mass Effect, don't plan on playing Mass Effect 2 and am only mildly interested in Dragon Age.
ChaosTeaCup's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 10:45
ChaosTeaCup
Bioware>>>>George Lucas.

In my stupid opinion.
Nerdy Suit's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 10:58
Nerdy Suit
Mass Effect is one of the best games I have ever, ever played. The further I get away from it, the more I realize how great it was. It also has one of the best soundtracks in a game.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 11:01
Chris Carter
@Daed
That's the thing! It's NOT KOTOR! It's an action game!
DarkMagic56's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 11:16
DarkMagic56
@Daed @Magnalon
Correction, Mass Effect 1 & 2 is a Third Person SHOOTER RPG
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 11:25
Tubatic
@Xzy and Mag

Yeah. I do need more sleep and am funny looking...

Mass Effect is pretty righteous, but I can see some general turn offs. It is Kotor-esque in its RPG parts (You have a dude, you control his straight up "white damage", but special moves pop off from a menu system, while your pals run mostly AI.
ChaosTeaCup's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 11:34
ChaosTeaCup
Hell yeah - the Mass Effect soundtrack is a synth-laden beauty.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 12:00
Chris Carter
@Dark
It's still an action game...I was simply comparing it to KOTOR. I know my genres, son!

TECHNICALLY, it's a Third Person action game with RPG elements. Also, I think the sub-genre of "shooter" is a bit trite.
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