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I'm buying myself a Hori arcade stick this second, anyone know where's a good place to purchase them? Amazon?
I'm buying myself a Hori arcade stick this second, anyone know where's a good place to purchase them? Amazon?
@Scrixx:
I got mine from GameStop at a fair price. There's still time.
I need to make some phone calls.
I got mine from GameStop at a fair price. There's still time.
I need to make some phone calls.
@Scrixx: go to ncsx.com
Capcom securing rights to Marvel characters and the re-releasing of the MvC2 on 360/PS3 is more than enough gumption for me to believe that a MvC3 will be coming. Capcom is probably best suited to reviving the fighting genre, hell they're doing it already with SF4 and I can't wait to buy everyone of their games.
Now I'll excuse myself to get a clean pair of pants, thank you...
Capcom securing rights to Marvel characters and the re-releasing of the MvC2 on 360/PS3 is more than enough gumption for me to believe that a MvC3 will be coming. Capcom is probably best suited to reviving the fighting genre, hell they're doing it already with SF4 and I can't wait to buy everyone of their games.
Now I'll excuse myself to get a clean pair of pants, thank you...
but.... I liked the tatsunoko characters :(
TEKKAMAN AND KARAS NOOO!!!!!
Also, the Vital Suit character is trippin balls.
TEKKAMAN AND KARAS NOOO!!!!!
Also, the Vital Suit character is trippin balls.
If this happens they better realize their audience quickly, that audience is not on the Wii. The 360/PS3 is where the hardcore fighting game fans reside and that would be where they would make the most money.
Actually, the Marvel guy said that it will happen sooner than you would expect at comic con. I would know since I was the person who asked the question :P
I am never going to shutup about that.
I am never going to shutup about that.
just the speculation alone is enough to get me foaming at the mouth. Also, no more looking for a copy of MVC2! my wallet is temporarily saved.
Kickass . . . I remember spending way to much money on that game with my brother and our friends. Then there were always the tournaments and such, lol. If only I still had "first screenshot" of Marvel vs. Capcom 3 with THOR, lol.
First, what Scrixx said.
Second: Look for MvC2 on XBLA in the future, w/ new downloadable character packs. My friend at Marvel said this was in the rumor mill last Christmas.
Second: Look for MvC2 on XBLA in the future, w/ new downloadable character packs. My friend at Marvel said this was in the rumor mill last Christmas.
I'm pretty sure Sega just got the rights to make games based on the Iron Man and Hulk movies, not for the entire comics roster.
Not releasing MvC 3 on PS360 would be a horrible decision, along the lines of not publishing a nearly complete Ghostbusters game.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go fire my PS2 up.
Not releasing MvC 3 on PS360 would be a horrible decision, along the lines of not publishing a nearly complete Ghostbusters game.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go fire my PS2 up.
I'd be excited if Marvel wasn't run by a certain dumb fanboy right now.
So how would Guile's marriage end?
Will his geriatric aunt get shot, and rather than letting her finally rest in peace, he makes a deal with M. Bison, where the price is making he and his wife forget they were married, and making their daughter not exist except in a spin-off series?
Or will his wife get killed by some weapon the writers are forced to make appear out of nowhere because the executives are so desperate to kill her off, and then those executives deceive the fans into not missing her by lying that she was cheating on Guile, and have Guile start making out with his new, "more interesting" girlfriend, right in top of his wife's grave?
And let's have all the Capcom characters have some issue they all agreed on before, but suddenly start taking sides on it for no reason, and fight to the death over it, ending with Mega Man getting killed by a sniper just to "drive home" the point, that we didn't think was a good point in the first place.
Let's just say I'm not happy with who's running Marvel right now.
So how would Guile's marriage end?
Will his geriatric aunt get shot, and rather than letting her finally rest in peace, he makes a deal with M. Bison, where the price is making he and his wife forget they were married, and making their daughter not exist except in a spin-off series?
Or will his wife get killed by some weapon the writers are forced to make appear out of nowhere because the executives are so desperate to kill her off, and then those executives deceive the fans into not missing her by lying that she was cheating on Guile, and have Guile start making out with his new, "more interesting" girlfriend, right in top of his wife's grave?
And let's have all the Capcom characters have some issue they all agreed on before, but suddenly start taking sides on it for no reason, and fight to the death over it, ending with Mega Man getting killed by a sniper just to "drive home" the point, that we didn't think was a good point in the first place.
Let's just say I'm not happy with who's running Marvel right now.
Doesn't make any sense. Regardless of this being all speculation. You're not even factoring in that video games above all else is a business. Just because EA lost the rights that doesn't mean that they default back to Capcom.
Also, switching out characters is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Lets make Starwars VS Starcraft and take out all the Soul Calibur IV characters. We'll just switch the costumes.
This reads more like a cblog.
Also, switching out characters is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Lets make Starwars VS Starcraft and take out all the Soul Calibur IV characters. We'll just switch the costumes.
This reads more like a cblog.
@ NotAZombie- I have four words for you-
Super
Smash
Brothers
Brawl
Last time I checked, that game had sold over 7 million copies worldwide. It's a Wii game, a cross-over fighter, and it's got 2D gameplay, all just like MvC. Knowing all that and still saying that there isn't an audience for MvC3 on the Wii is just plain silly.
Also, putting MvC3 on the 360/PS3 would just eat into Capcom's profits from SFIV. I know if I had less money and could only choose between buying SFIV and MvC3, I'd choose the latter.
Competing with yourself = fail.
The smart thing for Capcom to do would be to release MvC3 on the Wii next year, then on PS360 the following year with new features, then do the same for SFIV, then gradually leak out the extra content to the consoles that didn't get it as DLC. That's more or less what Capcom did with SFII back in the SNES Vs Genesis days, and it worked like a charm.
@ Abort- You are the fucking MAN.
Super
Smash
Brothers
Brawl
Last time I checked, that game had sold over 7 million copies worldwide. It's a Wii game, a cross-over fighter, and it's got 2D gameplay, all just like MvC. Knowing all that and still saying that there isn't an audience for MvC3 on the Wii is just plain silly.
Also, putting MvC3 on the 360/PS3 would just eat into Capcom's profits from SFIV. I know if I had less money and could only choose between buying SFIV and MvC3, I'd choose the latter.
Competing with yourself = fail.
The smart thing for Capcom to do would be to release MvC3 on the Wii next year, then on PS360 the following year with new features, then do the same for SFIV, then gradually leak out the extra content to the consoles that didn't get it as DLC. That's more or less what Capcom did with SFII back in the SNES Vs Genesis days, and it worked like a charm.
@ Abort- You are the fucking MAN.
@Holmes:
Are you serious?
The Audiences for Brawl and a game like MvC or even Street Fighter are completely different.
Halo has guns and is in first person, Left 4 Dead has guns and is in first person. Same game, same audience. Am I rite?
Are you serious?
The Audiences for Brawl and a game like MvC or even Street Fighter are completely different.
Halo has guns and is in first person, Left 4 Dead has guns and is in first person. Same game, same audience. Am I rite?
^
That is me after reading this CBlog.
Did you just compare the audience of SSBB to the audience of MvC?
That is me after reading this CBlog.
Did you just compare the audience of SSBB to the audience of MvC?
@ Yashoki- I didn't say that the rights would automatically revert back to Capcom, I said that because Capcom is releasing MvC2 on the 360 and the PS3, that is evidence that they have the rights back.
And what's wrong with the cblogs? Isn't that where you do your writing?
And what's wrong with the cblogs? Isn't that where you do your writing?
@Holmes
Here's the thing, though. Although Brawl and MvC are similar in the fact that they are cross-over fighters, the thing you need to realize is that there is a BIG difference between Pikachu and Wolverine and who those characters tend to attract. Now, I'm not trying to generalize people here as I love both of those characters dearly, but there are more younger people who bought the Wii that will be more interested in Mario fighting Pikachu than Ryu fighting Wolverine. The demographic that would be more for Ryu vs Wolvie is most likely the older crowd that has flocked more towards the 360 and PS3.
And they're also planning on releasing the 2nd game on those two consoles and NOT the Wii. Which means that if they then release MvC3 on the Wii only (or at least at first), then they would be teasing a large portion of the PS3/360 community that want the game but don't have a Wii and possibly don't want one. It would be a much smarter idea to put the game out for the system that has already received some love for the games already rather than toss it onto another platform.
And just because TvC is coming out on the Wii in Japan, doesn't mean that it can't come out immediately on the other consoles. The game was built for the arcades, not the Wii, so I don't think there would be much problem with shifting platforms. Also, I don't necessarily think they will just slap new skins into TvC to create MvC. That's just way too lazy for Capcom (though they DO reuse Morrigan sprites). I'm sure that they would use the engine when making MvC3, but not actually take TvC and mold it into MvC3.
The most sound strategy would be to release MvC2 shortly after SF4 comes out, then spend the year working on MvC3 and release it a year after SF4 has been out in order to give the two some sales space.
Great matlocking, though.
Here's the thing, though. Although Brawl and MvC are similar in the fact that they are cross-over fighters, the thing you need to realize is that there is a BIG difference between Pikachu and Wolverine and who those characters tend to attract. Now, I'm not trying to generalize people here as I love both of those characters dearly, but there are more younger people who bought the Wii that will be more interested in Mario fighting Pikachu than Ryu fighting Wolverine. The demographic that would be more for Ryu vs Wolvie is most likely the older crowd that has flocked more towards the 360 and PS3.
And they're also planning on releasing the 2nd game on those two consoles and NOT the Wii. Which means that if they then release MvC3 on the Wii only (or at least at first), then they would be teasing a large portion of the PS3/360 community that want the game but don't have a Wii and possibly don't want one. It would be a much smarter idea to put the game out for the system that has already received some love for the games already rather than toss it onto another platform.
And just because TvC is coming out on the Wii in Japan, doesn't mean that it can't come out immediately on the other consoles. The game was built for the arcades, not the Wii, so I don't think there would be much problem with shifting platforms. Also, I don't necessarily think they will just slap new skins into TvC to create MvC. That's just way too lazy for Capcom (though they DO reuse Morrigan sprites). I'm sure that they would use the engine when making MvC3, but not actually take TvC and mold it into MvC3.
The most sound strategy would be to release MvC2 shortly after SF4 comes out, then spend the year working on MvC3 and release it a year after SF4 has been out in order to give the two some sales space.
Great matlocking, though.
@ Yashoki and Riser-
I smell trouble from you two.
Yes, you goofs, Super Smash Bros Brawl and MvC have similar audiences, more so than MvC has with Soul Calibur or Virtual Fighter. They are both 2D. They are both cross-over games featuring a roster that appeals to hardcore, casual, and even non-gamers. They are both games where you can have fun just mashing buttons, or you can learn to play technically. They are both Chaotic as fuck. They both are awesome. The list goes on and on. Sure, the two games aren't identical, but they certainly have more similarities than differences.
Fell free to disagree with me by claiming to know what every Smash Bros fan likes about Smash Bros, and why every MvC fan likes MvC, and then say they have nothing in common. But there is a reason why Capcom is putting TvC (and potentially MvC3) on the Wii, and it's got to do with knowing their audience, maybe even better than you two do.
I smell trouble from you two.
Yes, you goofs, Super Smash Bros Brawl and MvC have similar audiences, more so than MvC has with Soul Calibur or Virtual Fighter. They are both 2D. They are both cross-over games featuring a roster that appeals to hardcore, casual, and even non-gamers. They are both games where you can have fun just mashing buttons, or you can learn to play technically. They are both Chaotic as fuck. They both are awesome. The list goes on and on. Sure, the two games aren't identical, but they certainly have more similarities than differences.
Fell free to disagree with me by claiming to know what every Smash Bros fan likes about Smash Bros, and why every MvC fan likes MvC, and then say they have nothing in common. But there is a reason why Capcom is putting TvC (and potentially MvC3) on the Wii, and it's got to do with knowing their audience, maybe even better than you two do.
@Holmes -
I'm not entirely sure that's how the licensing process works. I don't see why they would lose rights to the game. I don't know for sure, but I can speculate.
Nothing's wrong with the Cblogs, it's just that they read like the news of yesterday instead of actual blogs with real content.
I'm not entirely sure that's how the licensing process works. I don't see why they would lose rights to the game. I don't know for sure, but I can speculate.
Nothing's wrong with the Cblogs, it's just that they read like the news of yesterday instead of actual blogs with real content.
@Holmes -
I'm not entirely sure that's how the licensing process works. I don't see why they would lose rights to the game. I don't know for sure, but I can speculate.
Nothing's wrong with the Cblogs, it's just that they read like the news of yesterday instead of actual blogs with real content.
I'm not entirely sure that's how the licensing process works. I don't see why they would lose rights to the game. I don't know for sure, but I can speculate.
Nothing's wrong with the Cblogs, it's just that they read like the news of yesterday instead of actual blogs with real content.
@ Genki- Sorry, didn't see you there.
You make some fine points. I wouldn't be surprised if you end up being right.
But I do know a lot of little kids who like both Wolverine and Pikachu. Now if it were Marvel Zombies Vs Capcom, I'd be a little more convinced that the game would have trouble on the Wii. But even then, RE4 Wii Edition and RE:Umbrella Chronicles both sold buckets on the Wii.
Wii owners like them zombies.
@ Yashoki- Oh, I get you. Yeah, I didn't post a link, but EA did lose the license to make Marvel games earlier this year. It's my bad for not putting my proof in the post. I'll try to dig it up.
@ Perdo- YOU ARE A GENIUS. I forgot that MvC was only in arcades, and that arcade games like MvC and Power Stone 2 are never good in groups.
Thanks for the heads up.
You make some fine points. I wouldn't be surprised if you end up being right.
But I do know a lot of little kids who like both Wolverine and Pikachu. Now if it were Marvel Zombies Vs Capcom, I'd be a little more convinced that the game would have trouble on the Wii. But even then, RE4 Wii Edition and RE:Umbrella Chronicles both sold buckets on the Wii.
Wii owners like them zombies.
@ Yashoki- Oh, I get you. Yeah, I didn't post a link, but EA did lose the license to make Marvel games earlier this year. It's my bad for not putting my proof in the post. I'll try to dig it up.
@ Perdo- YOU ARE A GENIUS. I forgot that MvC was only in arcades, and that arcade games like MvC and Power Stone 2 are never good in groups.
Thanks for the heads up.
also heads up on the license info. it didn't revert to capcom. it was extended with activision back in 2005. it wont end till 2017.
@Holmes
Good matlockery sir. I for one hope you're correct.
@Genki
Actually, the arcade version of TvsC is built upon Wii-based hardware so I think that system is a given. Of course I think it's highly possible they'd want to release it on the other systems as well, but whether or not they want to go through the trouble of doing whatever they have to do to bring it up to those graphical standards is anyone's guess at this point. I'd buy it it though.
Good matlockery sir. I for one hope you're correct.
@Genki
Actually, the arcade version of TvsC is built upon Wii-based hardware so I think that system is a given. Of course I think it's highly possible they'd want to release it on the other systems as well, but whether or not they want to go through the trouble of doing whatever they have to do to bring it up to those graphical standards is anyone's guess at this point. I'd buy it it though.
@Pedro
Link? Also, I think that may have been just for the Ultimate Marvel characters like Holmes mentioned in his article.
@GuitarAtomik
Ah, I see. Well then the release on the Wii makes a lot more sense now.. and if it ends up like MvC2 (where it was made with DC-based hardware and emulates only so-so on other platforms), then the Wii does jump up a bit on my possibility scale.
(Shifting to Holmes)
Buuuuut I like to believe that Capcom has a good understanding of the difference between Japanese gamers and American gamers (and it seems like they've shown it through their recent games). So I think that they might borrow traits from the TvC engine when making MvC3 (like they've obviously done with TvC borrowing traits from MvC2 despite the hardware difference). Plus, as you said, the SF4 producer said he wanted in on the project, so that could affect what it looks like in the end and where it ends up. And they might actually be testing the MvC Online waters by releasing MvC2 on Live/PSN in order to see if they can pull off MvC3 online--something that the Wii's online couldn't possibly handle in it's current state. But I suppose we'll just have to wait and see, won't we?
Link? Also, I think that may have been just for the Ultimate Marvel characters like Holmes mentioned in his article.
@GuitarAtomik
Ah, I see. Well then the release on the Wii makes a lot more sense now.. and if it ends up like MvC2 (where it was made with DC-based hardware and emulates only so-so on other platforms), then the Wii does jump up a bit on my possibility scale.
(Shifting to Holmes)
Buuuuut I like to believe that Capcom has a good understanding of the difference between Japanese gamers and American gamers (and it seems like they've shown it through their recent games). So I think that they might borrow traits from the TvC engine when making MvC3 (like they've obviously done with TvC borrowing traits from MvC2 despite the hardware difference). Plus, as you said, the SF4 producer said he wanted in on the project, so that could affect what it looks like in the end and where it ends up. And they might actually be testing the MvC Online waters by releasing MvC2 on Live/PSN in order to see if they can pull off MvC3 online--something that the Wii's online couldn't possibly handle in it's current state. But I suppose we'll just have to wait and see, won't we?
@holmes: LOL to your response to Perdo. seriously man.. being an ultra hardcore fan of fighting games.. the vs capcom/street fighter games (especially MvC 2) are some of the most casual fighting games out there.. just like smash and power stone (gosh i love power stone, power stone 3 please capcom). not dogging any of those games, but just saying.. anyone can pick up and play, and with the versus games, there are plenty of recognizable characters.
PLUS! remember the dreamcast and the japanese saturn were the only systems to get the best ports of those games. in fact, the marvel vs capcom games were created with the dreamcasts controller in mind. now.. sega always had the lowest marketshare.. yet capcom made those games best on their systems.. why? because they were the most "arcadey" just pick up and play consoles. no epic gta, halo, metal gear type games on dreamcast (save for shenmue). with sega bowing out, the wii is the closest thing to an arcadey console these days. i mean.. look at the amount of light gun shooters the thing has for it already, fighting games would only make senes to start to shine on the wii to me. oh and ive read a few times online that tatsunoko vs capcom was built on a board that is basically the wiis hardware. makes sense, the game isnt a graphical powerhouse..
shonen jump vs capcom next.. strider vs ichigo, ryu vs goku, megaman vs naruto?! madness.. and id love every minute of it.. (im not even a fan of dbz, naruto, or bleach.. but sometimes those guys make for some fun video games)
PLUS! remember the dreamcast and the japanese saturn were the only systems to get the best ports of those games. in fact, the marvel vs capcom games were created with the dreamcasts controller in mind. now.. sega always had the lowest marketshare.. yet capcom made those games best on their systems.. why? because they were the most "arcadey" just pick up and play consoles. no epic gta, halo, metal gear type games on dreamcast (save for shenmue). with sega bowing out, the wii is the closest thing to an arcadey console these days. i mean.. look at the amount of light gun shooters the thing has for it already, fighting games would only make senes to start to shine on the wii to me. oh and ive read a few times online that tatsunoko vs capcom was built on a board that is basically the wiis hardware. makes sense, the game isnt a graphical powerhouse..
shonen jump vs capcom next.. strider vs ichigo, ryu vs goku, megaman vs naruto?! madness.. and id love every minute of it.. (im not even a fan of dbz, naruto, or bleach.. but sometimes those guys make for some fun video games)
Also, yeah. Brawl = Fighting game. It's a game in which you fight, same as Marvel vs. Capcom.
Know the similarity.
Know the similarity.
oh and speaking on the "appealing to kids because theyre the only ones that have wiis" kind of thinking.. nicktoons has an x-men cartoon coming early next year, megaman is still pretty big with kids, and marvels got too many movies that kids have seen and loved. i work in a game store, and kids come in all the time trying to get iron man, hulk, x-men, and fantastic four movie related trash games. here will be one with all those characters (or many of them) in it. marvel's on a roll, and capcom was able to make them shine in the videogame world long before they had good movies. every single marvel game capcom put their hands on was gold in my book.
I don't have a classic controller and any beat em up except Smash Bros is going to be horrible to play on any other wii controller :-(
Still cannot wait for MvC3!!!
Still cannot wait for MvC3!!!
Genki
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=7164
Anything spider-man and x-men related can only be published by them.
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=7164
Anything spider-man and x-men related can only be published by them.
@pedrovay
Hey, I want to play the damn game online with others (with GOOD online service)! If the Wii had that, I'm sure nobody would care in the least. But it's not exactly that way, is it?
Hey, I want to play the damn game online with others (with GOOD online service)! If the Wii had that, I'm sure nobody would care in the least. But it's not exactly that way, is it?
@Genki
Mario Kart works fine with the Wii. So does Bomberman and a bunch of others. Just because Smash didn't have good online doesn't mean that's how the entire console is. Is it Xbox Live or the PlayStation Network? Of course not. But it does what it's supposed to do.
Mario Kart works fine with the Wii. So does Bomberman and a bunch of others. Just because Smash didn't have good online doesn't mean that's how the entire console is. Is it Xbox Live or the PlayStation Network? Of course not. But it does what it's supposed to do.
@Pedro
Well that's odd. The article is from 2005, and although the only Marvel game EA ever released was released 2 months before this article went out, EA still had a Marvel contract for a while, I believe, and just a year before this article, the game based on the Spider-Man 2 movie was released by Activision. So that leads me to believe that these must be separate deals with some sorts of restrictions.
Plus, it doesn't explain why Capcom is suddenly able to release MvC2 again.... unless EA's contract was only for Marvel fighting games or something.. hmm..
Well that's odd. The article is from 2005, and although the only Marvel game EA ever released was released 2 months before this article went out, EA still had a Marvel contract for a while, I believe, and just a year before this article, the game based on the Spider-Man 2 movie was released by Activision. So that leads me to believe that these must be separate deals with some sorts of restrictions.
Plus, it doesn't explain why Capcom is suddenly able to release MvC2 again.... unless EA's contract was only for Marvel fighting games or something.. hmm..
@pedrovay
That's true, they could iron out any problems like lag and whatnot. However, Nintendo's ridiculous restrictions with things like friend codes, and overly complicated measures for things like voice chat make the experience less than enjoyable when it comes to setting up an online match with someone. Though it does look like Nintendo is easing up on those things a bit now, it's still not nearly as free as Live/PSN's online is (and I don't mean price).
That's true, they could iron out any problems like lag and whatnot. However, Nintendo's ridiculous restrictions with things like friend codes, and overly complicated measures for things like voice chat make the experience less than enjoyable when it comes to setting up an online match with someone. Though it does look like Nintendo is easing up on those things a bit now, it's still not nearly as free as Live/PSN's online is (and I don't mean price).
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