Although the general public is lapping up Wii's by the millions, you might not want to hold your breath while waiting for Epic to supply the engine for Nintendo's rig -- you'd likely pass out and die from the wait. As Mark Rein puts it, investing in the Wii just doesn't seem like a sound financial decision for Epic:
"I don't think there's a lot of money on making engines for the Wii. The big software dollars right now are being earned on Xbox 360, and they're going to be earned on PlayStation 3. And I think, unless you're going to sell your engine to Nintendo, you're going for scraps on that platform"
Nintendo doesn't seem to be suffering any ill-effects from Epic's lack of support, but it can't exactly be painting smiles on Nintendo execs (behind closed doors) knowing that a respected developer has written their product off their to-do list. Whether or not this will make a difference for Nintendo in the long run is unknown. However, having someone say that they are avoiding your product because they can't see it being a profitable venture is something to ponder over -- particularly when that someone is Mark Rein -- who is supplying the competition with some very pretty (and popular) games. What's your take on this?
[Gametrailers via CVG]
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9:16 AM on 10.05.2007
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As I primarily play my 360, I'm happy Epic continues to support the system, but does anyone else get the feeling another Moneyhat-boat sets sail whenever Mark Rein bashes Nintendo?
( Being Mature in Content. )
& how it is not for 360 or BS3?
but w/ games like Mushroom Men who needs Epic.
2) Oh noes! Less third party support for Nintendo! Suprise!
Crysis might come to 360 & BS3, just yet!
Its not Wii material. Rockstar wanted to see how well a mature title does on the system. Look at the sells, shit it the same game came out on the PS3/360 they wouldn't had to change the content. That just goes to show you that the Wii's fanbase doesn't appreciate mature games.
You talk as if a well-made Mature game would not be appreciated on the Wii. I can look at past Nintendo systems and see great titles aimed for older audiences that worked wonders. Perfect Dark, Metal Gear Solid: TS, Killer 7 (still greatly unappreciated) Resident Evil 4, etc., are all really great games aimed at older games. The Wii is being aimed at casual (softcore?) gamers, but what the system needs are some well made games for the hardcore crowd. To echo NukaCola's genius, I'll take a game that looks as pretty as Super Mario Galaxy but has the content of Gears of War any day.
Did you just try to compare Gears/UT3 to Brawl/Metroid?1?
Case in point : They can do ALOT better with the graphics, but it'll never be like a Gears game.
Piss on Unreal engine.. For some strange reason he acts as though the Unreal engine is the only one that is top notch material.. ID and Crysis are all on par with Unreal any way..
But this will be a mute point in 5 years any way.. But knowing how much of an ass Mark is he probably say that nintendo wont be able to handle the next epic grpahic installment he has planned..
Find the Video of this and see his I'm a dick vibe he puts out..
On the other hand, I understand why he said what he did.
I agree. The Wii does need games like Gears, but we will never see them unless it shows in the fanbase. The majority of the Wii's fanbase would rather play cheap minigames than a game like Gears or UT. Hell I hope some of the casuals buy Brawl so we can count on another sequel.
It's not as if the Wii is a good fit for every developer in the first place. I don't think there's anything wrong with a developer like this not developing for it.
I thought he meant the games were close in the graphics department. I appologize.
And Brawl and Galaxy both look better to me than Gears/UT3. I don't play games for realism, or giant hulking men brutally butchering things. Thanks for playing.
They like boycotted the Unreal Engine & said look we can do the same if not better. Making one from scratch.
Very True Johnny Blaze!
Look at some of the other violent games on the PS3/360. They are way more brutal than MH2. Violence is easier accepted on the 360/PS3. You are the fucking idiot! I like both UT/Gear and Brawl/Galaxy so shut the fuck up pussy!
Yea Gears of war or whatever your favorite game with uber grpahic may be cool, but is it really that nice to look at? Without a good art team I found uber graphics to be a waste..
"Manhunt 2" is rated M
"The Darkness" where you eat hearts is more violent.
Besides that fact you should see the rating reasons for the Mature Rating. It's chalk full of reasons. I think it should've been AO!
Yes, Sony & Micro$oft don't allow AO's as doesn't Wii.
6th Paragraph Mate!
I love Wii and I'd love to play Gears/UT on it. Minigames are fun for 5mins~.
6th Paragraph
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/darksector/news.html?sid=6162949
We will use you rational way of thinking and just rate Mario & Cooking Mama as mature and rate GtA4 and Ut3 immature or E since its basically the same thing.
I wouldn't mind playing it too, but the majority of the Wii's fanbase says different.
And I agree, The Darkness is the most violent game I've played, that wasn't given an AO rating.
If third party developers were to take the Wii seriously instead of using it as a quick cash in or a quick PS2 port centre, then I'm sure they would be able to make a substantial profit on Wii.
Wii owners usually own other consoles too, they can see the quality of games like RE5 or Assassin's Creed, they know when a developer is making an effort and they will buy that game regardless of which console it is on. If Mario galaxy was made by a third party developer, I'm sure it would sell.
In contrast, the graphics standard for the 360 and PS3 is so high and expensive to achieve, you pretty much NEED a 3rd party engine to make your game to cut down on cost and time for development.
Everyone know flipping an pancake and banging a hooker are about the same thing...get it together and lock it up. "You stop rejecting on me"
do you mean "subtle"?
I roffled at the title of the post. Gameboi, you rock.
Maybe useful to do so... Especially "if" like rumors have it. They start making a HD Wii. That's backwards compatible w/ Original Wii Titles... Ahh Ha!
are they more ACCESSIBLE? yes, of course, thats why M$ jumped all over it like luois anderson on a cupcake...
2. This guy never planned to, looked into developing for nintendo consoles. hes just causing a stir... Arent they getting sued by Silicon Knights?
3. Manhunt 2 is comiing to the wii, in the same vein that its coming to the PS2, doesnt mean the game was 'toned down' because its on a nintendo system, don't be stupid.
4. Nintendo will sell and support 3rd party games when 3rd parties start to make Nintendo level games. 'No more heroes' is getting a lot of rep... So is 'unbrella chronicles', manhunt 2, sadness etc, should these games start to sell we could see a change in trends, and I bet mark rein would still say the same shit