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Mario voiceover wanted to give Link a speaking role photo

Charles Martinet is known and beloved to gamers as the vaguely creepy old man who can make himself sound like a high-pitched Italian plumber, but if he'd have had his way, the voiceover artist would've also become the vocal chords behind The Legend of Zelda's green-suited hero as well.

"I spoke to Mr. Miyamoto and said, 'I wanna be Link, I wanna be Link,' and Miyamoto told me that Link isn’t going to have a voice; he is going to stay the way he is," confesses Martinet. "Of course Mr. Miyamoto is always right! The way it works right now is the way it is supposed to be.

"It’s the genius of Miyamoto and he knows just the right formula for making his games more fun and more exciting. For example in New Super Mario Bros. Wii, if things slowed down for Mario to express his inner feelings it just wouldn’t work and this way it keeps our hearts pounding with enthusiasm."

Could Martinet be any further up Miyamoto's arse? Anyway, do you think Miyamoto was right to refuse Martinet, or should Link always stay the silent hero? I think I'll personally side with Miyamoto on this, considering what happened the last time we allowed Link to say more than just "HRUH HRUH HAH!"


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bakasama's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 10:26
bakasama
Man I shuddered.
"It'sa me! Link! Woohoo!"
Pussmangus's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 10:26
Pussmangus
yeah im happy with link being the silent type :), and its not like mario really talks much besides saying its me mario, and i prefer the talking from the superstar RPGs for mario anyways
DinosaurPizza's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 10:30
DinosaurPizza
You can only go balls out or not at all.

Meaning if Link talked I would want it to be a amazingly complex Shakespearean novel with a massive amount of character development and themes combined with a great supporting cast of voice actors etc.

Not just "I would like to buy some items" whenever he goes to the store.
LegendPenguin's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 10:33
LegendPenguin
I've gone all this way without hearing Link talk, so I'm afraid to hear what he would sound like now.

There would probably be a grunting inflection with everything he said.
Scion of Mogo's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 10:34
Scion of Mogo
Well excuuuuuse me princess.
covah's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 10:35
covah
I honestly think if Zelda was to have VO it should he a made up Hylian language. Sort of like how Midna talked in TP but not pure Sims style jibberish.

That said Link STILL should remain silent
falinter's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 10:37
falinter
I think that Mario and Link pretty much have the same amount of vocal work IN GAME.
They both run around yelping and going HYAAAAA and OOOOOOOOOW and making noises.

It's just when the time arises Mario has the option to say an entire word or two but really how often do you hear him speak full on dialog?
Maxxthepenguin's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 10:41
Maxxthepenguin
Hey, if there is one arse to be up in the gaming industry, it's Miyamoto's.
Banana Kid's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 10:48
Banana Kid
I really want to hear Martinet's take on Link. Just to know what it sounds like.
GamesAreArt's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 10:48
GamesAreArt
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Boatz's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 10:49
Boatz
Silent Link was ANNOYING. Then again, I find the whole concept of silent protaganists annoying. Especially in Modern Warfare when people get shy the minute you start controlling them.
Drack48's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 10:54
Drack48
@covah..good call there, it could work like that. I really want the other characters to speak in the new Zelda though.
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 10:59
The Silent Protagonist
Well, you're far up Dragon Age's ass, aren't you? Seems when Shepard did the Kayne thing in Mass Effect they went back to what they did in every previous Bioware game - let the character be a vehicle for the player's thoughts.

Nintendo's been doing it that way forever now. They've told some pretty impressive tales without the need to beat you over the head with pointless chattering.

And really, Toon Link's eyes these days seem to talk enough. He can do Implied Facepalm, Like Hell, This is Sad, Holy Shit and all kinds of things with those two eyes of his. Link has feelings, he expresses them. What could voice add beyond that?

I didn't like Jak when he started talking, he became an emo bitch. I didn't like Tommy Vercetti because he stole my main character slot. And do you know who worried people were about how Kefka would turn out in Dissidia? Very good thing they got someone that veered to Mark Hamill's Joker on that one, had they done anything else there would have been a shitstorm over it.

Taking a long-time beloved character and giving them voice is a big risk and hard to meet the expectation of others. If you don't agree with me, I'll just wait for someone to argue my Kefka example. Not everyone saw him as The Joker.
Steel Brotha's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 11:01
Steel Brotha
I'd like to see less text and more VO in Nintendo games period. Seriously this is 2009. Reading text is so N64.
ShuperShawn's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 11:01
ShuperShawn
Thank god Miyamoto turned his offer down and what GamesAreArt said.
Vanilla Gorilla's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 11:03
Vanilla Gorilla
Gahhh Scion beat me to it.
kireblade's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 11:09
kireblade
Nintendo can't make a decent story or dialogue anyway, so I guess it's really no loss that he's silent.
Boatz's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 11:12
Boatz
@The Silent Protaganist

You're very articulate for a silent protaganist ;)
Ben PerLee's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 11:12
Ben PerLee
Hmm. I am disturbed by this.
Doomsday Forte's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 11:16
Doomsday Forte
Can't we have multiple response options ala games with relationship values so as to get an insight into Link's personality? The two PS2 Persona games are my chief example. The protagonist doesn't talk, but you shape his personality through your own choices. This has no real effect on the game, but it fleshes out the character somewhat. Can't we have that?
Leathersoup's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 11:24
Leathersoup
Who needs any real dialog when you have....

HEY!! LISTEN!! HEY!! LISTEN!! HEY!! HEY!!


LISTEN!!!


HEY!
otikik's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 11:24
otikik
Link may not be quite vocal, but he's not mute.

* "Oooaah!" and "Aaah!" when performing certain attacks.
* "Humph" when climbing.
* Tiny cry when hit.
* Other monosillabical sounds during cutscenes ("Oh?")
* "Barf" and "Arf" when transformed into a wolf.
GoldenGamerXero's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 11:30
GoldenGamerXero
No keep the text. If we gamers complain about games being to easy yet we're telling them we're too lazy to even read then there's a problem somewhere.

And he's not really a kiss up because if you're talking about what someone wants to do with their game then it's probably better to say "it's his and he's right" then "my idea was better!"
Rabite's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 11:33
Rabite
Link talks too much now. They fucked up the GBA port of LttP by adding those stupid yells when he attacks. Likewise for the GBA ports of the Mario games.
William Baker's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 11:36
William Baker
Charles Martinet is a dick. True story.
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 11:38
The Silent Protagonist
@Doomsday - Persona protagonists are vehicles, the relationships you forge though Social Links serve to personalize the story a little bit. Its still a linear story, just expressed a bit differently.

And I seem to remember some of Link's dialog boxes being along these lines at times, just not often. More often its his eyes that do the talking and they do quite a funny job of it.
Monte's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 11:40
Monte
I could go for a speaking Link, but only if they put good focus on the story... i mean, he should only talk if he NEEDS to talk, and he only NEEDS to talk if his talking somehow adds to the story and really reflects on how he interacts with characters.
Zepwich's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 11:42
Zepwich
And if you hold down.. You can do the duck walk.. coolhuh?
kwaselow's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 11:56
kwaselow
3 words about why Link shouldn't speak: "Excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me, Princess"
TheBigFeel's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 11:56
TheBigFeel
I think mario should stay silent too. I want the synth "boing" not a "woo-hoo" every time I jump. Lousy kids, get off my lawn!
Timstuff's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 12:02
Timstuff
My ideal voice actor for Link would be Cam Clarke. The man has nearly 200 credits to his name, some of which include the Metal Gear Solid series, He-Man (2002), Grandia 2, and even 1980s Ninja Turtles. He's a real pro, and he can do very convincing voices for plucky young heroes like Link.

Anyway, if Link does ever speak, when he actually starts talking it should be a major shock moment like in Jak 2. And as Eiji Aunomi said, when he starts talking it should be because he's got something important to say!
Los255's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 12:14
Los255
NEVER AGAIN. PLEASE.
Im OK's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 12:22
Im OK
I like how Martinet respecting Miyamoto and realizing that Miyamoto probably knows his own games better than Martinet does is "being up Miyamoto's ass*". *eyeroll*

* - oh excuse me, "arse".
Doomsday Forte's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 12:31
Doomsday Forte
@TSP: You have a point about that. The whole purpose of Zelda isn't the relationships you forge with side characters or main characters, but getting into dungesons, kicking monster ass, and coming out with a spiffy new item. And then killing the big bad. =P

I just want to have the option to play as a snarky Link, dammit! I will agree that a good system doesn't need fixing.
ToxinBlackheart's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 12:50
ToxinBlackheart
I CAN'T WAIT TO BOMB SOME DODONGOS.
q-pa's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 13:15
q-pa
Didn't Martinet confess in an earlier interview (I forget where) that Link would be always silent and Nintendo would never do it?

He also did a short demo of what he thought Link's voice would sound like. I was rather unimpressed with it.

Just because games *can* have voices now doesn't mean that every one should!
gamadaya's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 13:30
gamadaya
Link shouldn't talk because it's a fucking stupid idea, but I don't mind him saying stuff like Mario does. Mario never really "talks", but he does say some phrases. In fact, I think Link actually does speak a word or 2 of English in Wind Waker.
Klempky's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 13:34
Klempky
What Rabite said. I can't think of anything more irritating than when I accidentally pick up a Fire Flower mid-air, replacing my Raccoon powers causing me to plummet to my death and having Mario go "WOOHOO! JUST WHAT I NEEDED! :B"
Artemus's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 13:41
Artemus
I don't blame Charles for wanting to voice Link... I mean, Link is such an iconic video game character and I'm sure the extra notoriety and money wouldn't hurt.
By the way, the several times I met Charles he was nothing but super nice and welcoming. A real class act. Although, he is damn near schizophrenic with his characters, he'd go from Charles to Mario to Wario back to Charles in a matter of seconds. Creepy and cool. =) You can tell he really loves being the voice of Mario and meeting the fans.
Sustenance's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 14:27
Sustenance
Voicing Link is all kinds of wrong - I agree with Miyamoto on this one. Zelda is all about silence or incomprehensible babble. It adds to the ambience.

I'd still be morbidly curious to hear Martinet's "take" on Link.
PJMan's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 14:43
PJMan
That's the worst catch phrase I've ever heard.

Also, you forgot the CD-i games.

"GREAT! I'll grab my STUFF!"
Mace's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 15:11
Mace
I would like it if Link had a voice, I have never been a fan of silent protagonists, it just does not make much sense. Especially when the protagonist is asked direct questions and then suddenly the person asking the question knows the answer without the player-character actually saying anything.

I am not sure if Martinet would have been right for Link, but I would like to see someone voicing him at some point. Come to think of it, everyone in the Zelda games should be given a voice.
StMcDuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 16:28
StMcDuck
As much as I'm loving NSMBW, Mario comes off as a bit self-absorbed with all his "It's Mario time!" and similar phrases of self-praise. Link seems a bit more level-headed, except for that whole fairy-in-a-bottle fetish.
Johnny Justice's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 16:48
Johnny Justice
"Anyway, do you think Miyamoto was right to refuse Martinet, or should Link always stay the silent hero?"

Those two options don't conflict with each other.
BoomingEchoes's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 18:42
BoomingEchoes
As much as he's a great voice for Mario this guys sorta pushing it. He must be desperate for work. Honestly I don't think he's that beloved, The character is beloved. He just seems like the annoying aunt that comes along with the awesome uncle you tolerate just so you can see that uncle.

With him going on and leeking new games and stuff I'm sorta waiting for Nintendo to send the word down the pipe that he needs to shove a sock in it before they do it for him. And from his comments about his conversation with Miyamoto-san he seems to be very much the yappy puppy.. but that may come from the fact that Miyamoto puts bread on his table.

Frankly if they ever give Link a voice it wont be his. It'll be a younger man, or a woman. (many male anime characters are voiced by females for those giving that comment the stink eye)
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