Nintendo has recently announced some of the new online features that Mario Kart Wii will contain. First, lets start with the good. The game will be up to 12 players online and players will also be able to watch their friend's race in spectator mode. You'll also be able to compare your race times against other players through the Mario Kart Channel. Easily the best part of Mario Kart's online service is that you'll be able to download other people's ghost data so you can see how they were able to get such a good time on tracks.
Now here's the bad news: You can talk to your friends, but only through text. You can create a room and invite people to text while waiting to play the game, but you can only text them in these rooms. And God knows how broken the texting system will be. If it's anything like Opera's text Wiimote interface, then forget about it.
How long is it going to take Nintendo to realize their Online service is completely broken? At least the service is free ... oh wait, nevermind!
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7:41 PM on 02.26.2008
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Oh, I got a red shell somebody's fucked.
Looking at other people's ghost data seems dirty... but awesome!
am i doing it right
Next on the agenda: Microsoft's console breaks and PS3 has no games.
Next on the agenda: Microsoft's console breaks and PS3 has no games."
BTW, why do you need voice chat in a racing game?
Nintendo can lick my balls. I'm done with them after Smash comes out as it'll likely be the last game I ever buy for my Wii.
I'm okay with text comments. I don't see what the big deal is with voice chat. It's typically for games that require some sort of team strategy occasionally, Mario Kart not being one of them. Brawl might have needed it, but not Mario Kart.
Pokemon Battle Revolution didn't have voice chat or text chat OR a visible leader board. I kept playing matches online because it was fun to have a living thinking opponent.
I'm sorry you cant shout racial slurs at the next person who blue shells you just before you cross the finish line on the final lap.
Becouse you know, the SNES and N64 Mario Kart did have online voice chat. How the hell is adding a lobby where you can actually comunicate, like WITH WORDS THAT YOU CHOOSE, a step BACKWORDS for nintendo? In fact this is HUGE for them!
Expecting anything more would be just setting yourself up for dissapointment. Next thing you know you'll refuse to buy a ps3 BECOUSE mgs4 you can't strip the bad guys naked, pile there uncontious bodies onto eachother and watch in glee as they wake up in suprise and struggle to get out of the massive orgy you put them in.
If the lack of voice chat breaks the whole game for you then you didn't want the game in the first place. Also, I find it ironic that you're going to go play a game lacking an online function entirely instead. Why not pick up some RIIIIIIIIIIIDGE RACERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR instead.
@b-radicate
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Just saying, I end up muting half the people who talked when I play Halo 3. The other half who talked I ignored. VOICE CHAT IS AWESOME. The only people I really talked to were my friends. AWESOME.
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Meh. I know it's gonna come out wrong. But you know what it is.
Anyway, what does limiting to text do? I don't understand.
Is the text chat FC only? Or can you actually talk to other people? And can you actually enter a 12 player race without exchanging FCs with 11 people?
You've always been able to have random matches with people in like EVERY online game nintendo's had. Why the fuck do people keep acting like you need FC's to play online at all.
Seriously, it seems like people make everything nintendo does sound a lot worse then it really is just becouse they're bitter that the "family device" is beating out their high end graphical bahemeths. I'm also refering to the last line in the article.
Why the hell WOULDN'T you have voice chat in an online-capable video game in frigging 2008? I let it slide when Brawl wouldn't have voice chat, but this is getting ridiculous. Nintendo is seriously overdoing this "Wii/DS is for pedos" damage control thing. You sure as hell can't tell me that it's outside of their technological capabilities. If Sony and Microsoft can do it, so can Nintendo.
I'm increasingly starting to believe that Nintendo just doesn't give a fuck anymore, simply because they're on top of the world and no one can knock them off.
Well, for you anyway. being a gamecube only owner last generation I'm just happy to have online play.
You can't have random wi-fi matches in every Nintendo game. In Pokemon D/P you HAVE to exchange FCs in order to play online.
And I don't own a PS3 or a 360. I only have a Wii. So I don't know what my "high end graphical behemoth" is, unless you're talking about the one behind my zipper. And I don't need anyone's help beating that one.
The fact is Nintendo's online sucks. Mario Kart Wii sounds like it's going to have the best online features of any Wii/DS game to date, so at least they're showing improvement. But it's still years behind Microsoft and Sony.
Not everybody who criticises Nintendo is a Nintendo hater. The fact is, if they never got any negative criticism they probably wouldn't be as great as they are today. People complain about Nintendo's crappy online because we hope that eventually they'll hear us and fix it.
[i]You can't have random wi-fi matches in every Nintendo game. In Pokemon D/P you HAVE to exchange FCs in order to play online.
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but that was only so people would be forced to buy pokemon battle revolution to get there share of random online matches. It would be fully possible on the DS.
here's a question, how do you know nintendo's online sucks if your a wii only owner and don't have anything to compare it to?
how could you have something when you don't even know how it works?
And even if I had never played any other console in my life, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that having voice chat would be better then not having it. Or that having one gamer tag for every game would be better then having individual friend codes for each game. I could go on, but you get the point.
I wrote a long response to your post but it didn't go up becouse something wird happened and I'm not typing it all again so I'll summerizes it:
I agree that firend codes per game is retarded but with nintendo's family firendly image there's no way they can allow comunication with strangers without people being dicks to little kids. They allowed emblems in MKDS and people used that opertunity to draw dicks. Stranger chat will be safe when Communism becomes an acceptible form of government, meaning when human kind becomes perfect, meaning never
That's exatly what this is about. I'll say it one more time: they can't include stranger chat becouse people, especially hardcoregamers, get there kicks out of tramatizing kids. and don't bring up the curinf 13 year old you met on Halo, becouse this is Mario Kart and has a different audience.
What kind of voice chat would you use in a Mario Kart game.
I am dead serious about that question? Do you want it "just because", or do you have legitimate uses planned for it?
There's not really any excuse for things like this to be ignored, other than "it's nintendo" which seems to be a pretty easily accepted if pathetic excuse.
XBOX360 has voice chat
PS3 has voice chat
Wii HASN'T voice chat
BUT
For the 360 you need Live, which costs
For the PS3 you need a PS3, which costs MOAR than a Wii
You only get what you pay for. Some people here think they have a right to have voice-chat included in a game. Maybe you'll get it someday, but when/if that happens, it's going to be via Pay and Play.
@Wiizilla
I completely agree with you and that's exactly the point I made in the Brawl discussion, still some retards think Nintendo's first priority is to make the hardcore feel comfortable.
Maybe things would be different if they spent a little less time on pokemon channels.
That's why I asked earlier if it was possible to join a 12 player race without friend codes. I could easily see Nintendo doing something stupid like having 4 player only random races, with the ability to race with up to 12 players in FC races.
Sort of like in Pokemon Battle Revolution. You can only use half of your Pokemon in random matches, so you have to exchange FCs with someone just to use your whole team. That's retarded.
It's bad enough that you need FCs to play with specific people, but why do they have to completely butcher online play for non FC matches?
There are rankings in mario kart wii.
If you can't do onine properly don't bother and I'm sure gamers will vote with their feet and not use this service. It seems to be about what Nintendo wants, not what we want.
Damn, even doing something with Skype would be better than this crap. Minus 10 lives, Nintendo.
"tarnishing theier image"
They're only making those hardcore people who has a need to call people fags when they're playing as princess peach.
Morons.
12 people online is great, but it's completely unpersonal if you can't TALK to people dammit.
Nintendo is making this a total fuck up, with online. Just like with GC.
Getting increasingly fed up with them catering to everyone but pure gamers, thank fuck I bought a PS3 too.
@Blufire
how is text different from voice when it comes to vulgarities? Easy! Word-filters! Also, the very fact that your penis drawing(I assume it was a penis drawing) failed to show shows that it would probably fail in Mario Kart Online.
Not as easy as say "n-word n-word n-word n-word", eh?
If they make this "pay to play" I scoff at them
I though Pay and Play was more like XBOX Live (whatever that means). Correct me if I'm wrong but except for the price we have to pay for every game there are no extra fees for MKWii, right?
@CALkulon
You can plug in a USB-Keyboard btw.
@Luigi takes over
Even Nintendo isn't as naive as that to make MKWii pay and play.
People are just expecting too much from them, they aren't a company that has it's main focus on the hardcore, they still are very popular amongst the kids and families so they have to concentrate on these customers. If you don't like that it's your opinion but it's not like Nintendo is going to change their strategy.