7:44 AM on 09.04.2007
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While America and Britain still consider their populations full of people who need entertainment screened like nations of giant infants, it seems that at least one country is sensible enough to let its people think for themselves. While the US version of Manhunt 2 was edited to avoid the defacto banning of an AO rating and the UK/German versions are still banned like it's the 1800s, our friends in The Netherlands have found themselves unable to ban the game thanks to perhaps the most awesome law in the world. Should Rockstar choose to, it will be able to sell the controversial sequel in all its banworthy glory. There were those that tried to ban the game there, of course, but Dutch laws on the matter are founded on the idea that grown adults can make their own decisions and discern for themselves which games they can and cannot play. A country that doesn't patronize and mollycoddle its people? Wow, I'd never have imagined it in my lifetime. Rockstar hasn't expressed a desire to release an uncut version out there, but if it ever does, I will have no concerns with importing a copy. I don't even want it, but anyting to stick it to the BBFC. [Danke, TehuberOne]
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Import.
Must have.
Wow, something that I'd actually import. Spite, quite the driving force. Stick it to the man. :-P
Lemon:
Wiis should always be modded anyway. I'm sorry, but if Nintendo insists on region locking everything while simultaneously screwing over other countries on release dates, they ask for it.
Something I might actually buy in the stores for once! And export perhaps :P
Lol. Only a PAL Wii can play that Manhunt 2 from Holland. I'd advise euro Wii owners to import.
It's a PAL release so will work fine on UK Wii's :D yay
Surely they aren't going to make a separate disc just for Holland? They'll just get the M-rated version the US is getting (and that the UK may hopefully get...)
Damnit! My PSP is soo OE!
I'm sorry Jim but I beat you to the punch on this one last week Here
I doubt Nintendo will license it? It'll probably only show up on PC, no matter where it's allowed to fly. I'm not sure how that works, but if if the Netherlands can't outlaw games, and Nintendo was willing to license whatever they spewed forth, we'd all of Netherland themed Wiiporn libraries.
Of course there are 50 cblogs last week on this, so I knew about it for a little while, but I don't think it will be any better, sans the gamecube graphic titties.
"I don't even want it, but anyting to stick it to the BBFC." - Jim
I'll go with Jim on this one though..
Fuck yo Cblogs, foo'!
I'm in a foreign country and not up on everything, give me a break. :-)
:) nice.. it happens that I live in Netherland :) I didn't want that game before.. but now that it might be uncut in store 100m from me... I'll actually
buy it to make some of you jealous :P hihi (bad)
the dutch win again muhahahaha
the netherlands rock. at last we get something other people don't
hahaha it must be all that backwoods kentucky cooking!
Mollycoddle = word of the day.
Oh hell yeah I'm in the UK right now and, being a college student, I obviously am already planning a trip to Amsterdam. Yay for me
Even if the country allows it and Rockstar wants to release it uncut, that still doesn't mean that Nintendo or Sony will allow AO-level content to be released, even if that rating doesn't exist over there. If that turns out to be the case, then this only serves to further highlight the ridiculous policies of the Big 3 when it comes to adult content.
Neros said "Even if the country allows it and Rockstar wants to release it uncut, that still doesn't mean that Nintendo or Sony will allow AO-level content to be released"
You're very much confused. The AO rating only exists in the ESRB. They only do the US and Canada. In Europe we mainly use the PEGI. The highest rating they have is an 18+, which neither Sony nor Nintendo have a problem with.
The US and Canada are the only countries in the world where the banned AO rating exist.
As Manic said Manhunt will get an 18+ raiting which Sony nor Nintendo have ever had problems with games of that rating being released on their consoles before. It's only because of the media's involvment and reaction in the US over the AO rating that prevents them from allowing them there.
Nintendo and Sony will not stop an 18 game being released on their consoles in europe regardless of it's content.
I agree with Jim on this, I don't really want it but I'd import it on principle...
People need to read before they post.
"The Netherlands lacks a videogame regulative body, self-appointed or otherwise, such as the ESRB or British Board of Film Classification (BBFC), and the European Union doesn't police games across all its member states."
There ISN'T a rating board in the Netherlands. You can't get a rating if there's no one to rate it. So, to all the people that say Nintendo and Sony won't allow and AO or 18+ rated game due to their company policies...
Yeah, the Netherlands people make their own responsible choices, but I don't see their country consistently making stupid ones when given the option (USA looking at you bud! Can't really speak for the UK or Germany though this kind of stuff typically doesn't come out of nowhere).
Definetly gonna import it... as long as its in a language I can comprehend :D
To DeusPayne,
Actually the Netherlands does have a rating board. It's one of the 29 Europeon nations that use the PEGI:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PEGI#See_also
I'm not sure if that IGN article is accurate.
If they did release it, I would totally spend the money on importing UK Wii as well so that I could play it.
PEGI is optional:
"Participation is voluntary, at the discretion of the game developer."
While there are 29 nations that utilize PEGI, only 2-3 of them have any legal basis behind it. It's about the equivalent of when Best Buy started listing the alternate ratings with the games. But if a developer choses not to get it rated, it can still be released and sold in stores.
To DeusPayne
So I see. Tis confusing. Nonetheless, as people have said, Rockstar haven't made any statment on releasing the game in the Netherlands yet. It's just possible for them to do so, so who knows.
What I wanna know is how Take-Two got suspended from PEGI. I quote:
"Manhunt 2, while being banned by BBFC, could have been sold uncut with a 18+ rating in certain PEGI countries if not for Take-Two's suspension."
I've looked but can't find anything about how they got the suspension. It seems that's the only thing stopping the game from getting released in the UK.
I believe that by suspension, they mean they suspended the release process of the game. I don't believe that they will release an uncut version in just the Netherlands without releasing the same AO version on PCs in the US. The PEGI article on wiki is really terrible, and poorly written, so it's hard to go by what they're saying.
Woot! Go us :D
get this game while you can!
ive been playing it heavily on the wii, nice game rockstar. im sure this will cause this game more harm than good, but i had a feeling this would happen. i can see where the game was edited. and i can see why. i wish it was clear cut as they wanted it to be sooo, i blame the esrb for "forcing" rockstar to do this....
EVERYBODY IN EVERY COUNRTY IS NOW GAY EXCEPT THE DUTCH i PROPOSE AN UPRISING SO WE CAN GAT ALL THE MANHUNT AND DEATH PORN WE WANT