Finally! After a worrying period of silence, non-specific delays, and vague mumblings about standing behind the game, Take-Two havespoken out about their true feelings on Manhunt 2's recent savaging at the hands of the world's ratings boards. It seems going quietly into the night isn't high on their list of things to do today ...
Speaking at a recent meeting, Chairman Strauss Zelnick stated that the company is "dealing with the challenging development in a professional and highly focused manner" and plans to release the game "as unvarnished and unchanged as possible" and "in a responsible fashion."
He went on to be highly vocal about the current state of the ratings system, the changes that need to be made, and what Take-Two intends to do in order to get Manhunt 2 out and into the hands of its intended audience. Hit the jump to find out what he said.
We don't see ourselves in the AO business, and if we find ourselves there, it would be because we have a title we consider art and entertainment, that we consider appropriately rated at AO, that we’d like to bring to market.
In that instance, one has to ask oneself what is the purpose of a rating if it means that effectively the title can't be released.
Zelnick continued that the problem "doesn't fall at the doorstep of the retailers," and that it's
...not correct to be critical of retailers, because this is a voluntary ratings organization in the U.S. We have to be critical of ourselves if we've allowed a system to develop that prevents us from bringing a title to market.
In adding that this sitituation is "something we have to address," he also noted that Take-Two's CEO is on the board of the ESA, and pointed out that the company "could envision changes that would make sense." He continued:
The notion of having a rating we don't think is appropriate is one issue. If we feel a rating is appropriate and we can't bring it to market, that seems somewhat nonsensical, and both issues need to be addressed.
Zelnick was also open about the fact that Take-Two are
...absolutely looking at digital downloading... We're in that business aggressively,
and notably added
We do think its terribly important to bring original producers' and creators' vision of Manhunt 2 to the public.
If that we means we have to be clever about how we distribute it, we will be ambitious and aggressive about bringing that to market.
Good news? Most definitely. The fact that we live in a day and age in which the games industry is bigger than Hollywood, yet still can't produce creative works intended for an adult audience without fear of this kind of treatment, beggars believe. While solid and responsible ratings are the cornerstone of a legitimate, eclectic entertainment medium, a situation in which works can be effectively banned from their intended audience devalues the whole system and puts us back at least ten years.
The industry needs to make a mature and responsible stand here in order to shake up some outdated perceptions and create a more workable system for the modern-day gaming climate. Who knows, in inciting this kind of a reaction, this whole Manhunt 2 mess might actually turn out to have done us a favor in the long run.
[Via Gamasutra. Thanks to the eight thousand people who sent in the tip. We love you all.]
Sounds like a threat.
Glad to see some one with common sense about video games is on the board to give adult gamers a voice for what the feel they can play..
They can whine and complain that their game is art and shouldn't be censored, but at the end of the day, they knew that Sony and Nintendo won't release an AO game on their consoles and they know what makes a game AO. It's their own fault for trying to push the boundaries over and over again and they finally got burnt. Now they're just trying to dig themselves out of their own grave by being loud and obnoxious which probably really isn't going to help.
I find Take-Two listing the game for pre-order at six different outlets on their site fairly telling of their current attitude.
I'd buy any movie with "The Boobening" in the title.
But yeah. Sometimes you have to wonder when there's a five foot cardboard standee advertising copies of Hostel with extra human drippings sitting in plain view.
Maybe we just need a harder rating than AO or a "porn" descriptor for anything involving more sex than a normal "R" rated movie.MAybe they wouldn't be so scared of it then and just refuse to carry anything with a "porn" descriptor.
On the other, Nintendo, Sony, and retailers are all well within their rights when they decided what will or won't appear on their consoles and stores.
The real problem is that we live in a society where these companies would receive so much backlash for carrying adult-appropriate content. If Sony and WalMart were free of nanny-group backlash, I don't think there would be a problem. Like I've said before, this is more than a gaming industry problem and more of a societal problem.
Of course if you start to enter ConspiracyLand, it's possible they only let people play the M version and then sent the ESRB the AO version.
THE ORIGINAL MANHUNTFOR THE XBOX!
I CANT WAIT ANY LONGER!!
I'M DEFINATELY GETTING THIS WHEN IT HITS THE SHELVES!
RATING BOARDS CAN LICK MY BALLS!!
If that we means we have to be clever about how we distribute it, we will be ambitious and aggressive about bringing that to market. "
This comment kinda threw me off. Interesting. What does he mean by "be clever"?
Or does he just mean a PC port?
Anyway, I'm really glad to hear this news. The video game industry needs to start being treated with the same respect the movie inudstry has. It's not the little nephew you walk up to at the family reunion barbecues, pat on the shoulder, and ask him if he's been a good boy. The industry's definitely matured and that needs to be accepted.
Or does he just mean a PC port?"[/i]
Maybe he means they're gonna distribute it through mail order or something like that. Mind you, I think the console makers can still prevent that from happening if the rating isn't changed.
"...not correct to be critical of retailers, because this is a voluntary ratings organization in the U.S. We have to be critical of ourselves if we've allowed a system to develop that prevents us from bringing a title to market."
Ha ha ha, I love this. Zelnick is basically telling the ESRB to go fuck themselves and lick balls while he dips them in maranara sauce. He's getting the game out there anyways. Ha ha ha.
"absolutely looking at digital downloading... We're in that business aggressively, "
Take that MPAA & RIAA
@subnet6 I don't doubt that they had a lot of this planned from the beginning. It's great publicity, for free man.
well.....I'd buy it anyway
Why is that ok with anybody? What if there were CD players that wouldn't play songs with swears in them, or DVD players that wouldn't R rated movies?
Would anyone buy them?
That Playboy game was rated M on all consoles and even the PC. There was an expansion to it planned that was rated AO, but that was only available for the PC and it was never released anyway, so that's why no one complained.
It is to be said that not even the movie industry (Hollywood and worldwide) can produce AO titles that aren't relegated to the porn market. Middle Age, here we come. Levelled down to the most uptight and prudish.
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