The bad news keeps piling up for Rockstar and Manhunt 2. GamePolitics asked analyst Michael Pachter to see what he thinks Rockstar needs to do to save their asses and not have another Hot Coffee on their hands:
I had estimated [Manhunt 2 would generate] around $25 million in revenues for this quarter, plus around $15 million in reorders. It’s not clear to me whether Take-Two will:
1) ship the game as is;
2) re-cut the game and try to have the UK ban/US AO rating lifted;
3) cancel the game.
Unfortunately for Rockstar, they only have 2 options now. Nintendo and Sony have both stated today that they will not allow an AO rated game to play on their respective consoles. Seeing as how the game is banned in crumpet and tea land, and now more or less here, Rockstar has to either redo the game or just cancel it. Either way, this will undoubtedly hurt Rockstar financially.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go catch Hostel 2.
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6:11 PM on 06.20.2007
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i cant wait to see this on the cable news channels tonight:
"ultra violent video game banned across the globe! children rejoice in the salvation of their souls!" :puke:
All they really need to do is take out the sex scene (is it rape?) and it will probably be able to get in the M gate.
PS: the end scene in Hostel is...it seems the cut back on gore throughout the film (compared to the original) just for the ending's gore!!!
Hostel 2 is worse than any game I've seen; a guy get's his dick cut off for God's sake.
WAIT!
It's like when someone says something to you and then stops half way through. Then every time you ask about it they say it was nothing. Arrrgh.
c'mon PS3... don't be such a pussy.
Nintendo I could see pulling this shit, but SONY? Really?
What does this game have that's so wrong?
Hostel, in general, is a bad fucking movie, and if you're just in it for the gore... You need to watch some actual horror movies for a change. The whole thing reminds me Slipknot kiddies trying to say that Slipknot is the most "brutal" band alive, and how they're "death metal." Pretty fucking sad...
Looks like they will edit it, do you think it will be as popular if it is edited to M?
Would I buy it if it gets edited?
Personally, a fitting comparison would be Ichi The Killer - Absolutely love that film, but it's likely far sicker than Manhunt 2 was. Rape and murder and torture galore.
Shenocide: Oh, I know of other horror movies far worse than Hostel but that's the latest and freshest one in everyone's minds. The point of my comment was simple trying to say "Hey, we got all of these awesome horror movies and TV shows like CSI that are graphic as hell, yet people are going crazy over just this one game?!" I probably should have said something like that instead, but I just wanted to be quick and snarky.
And Hostel Part 2 is a good choice cause it is a MAJOR theatrical release with some gore.
yeah that scene is in the movie...and its a killer scene.
Well, we do need to watch things die from a good safe distance, right?
i used to think i had the choice to do that..
appareantly i dont even have the mental capabilitie to make such a decision anymore.
Man, they're so smart. Hilary Clinton's third eye is so powerful you can almost see it.
I agree that the rating of movies and games differently sucks... but there's no way to change that now except to write a letter to the ESRB. That's the root of this problem.
And sorry if I'm overly sensetive, some of it might have carried over from kotaku.
At the same time, Reggie really wanted some mature games, so he would be wise to try and overturn that policy.
O and long NO is long.
No, it's not. Flat out banning would be refusing to rate it, or if there was one corporate entity making the decision like there was in England. The thing is though, that these rules have been in place for a long time and Rockstar knew what it was getting into when it started making the game. They knew that if they got an AO they would be in the crapper.
@JimSterling:
Because at least there's the option. At least there is a rating so that in America the game gets a rating no matter what, so that one day the consoles WILL allow AO stuff on their systems. Sure it's arbitrary, but at least that allows for the meaning of the rating to change over time.
"It's that simple... it's not censorship, it's not the Wii being kiddie."
It is censorship. Instead of letting the consumer decide what they want to play they instead come up with that policy of no AO and force the developers to either censor themselves or not release the product.
Sony/MS/Nintendo shouldn't be saying what is allowed on their consoles. The consumer should be allowed to choose what will and won't be played on the video game console they payed a nice chunk of change for.
This is incredibly stupid. It's like having a CD player that refuses to play a cd with a Parental Advisory sticker...or a DVD player that refuses to play anything above a PG rating.
I'm pretty confident I can handle this stuff. At least allow people to buy the damn thing from somewhere, an outright ban is ridiculous. If you look at how media has been banned in the past and how eventually it gets lifted. Plus, this kind of behaviour just patronises people.
Even if it is a rape issue.... CSI and all that bullshit talk all day long about rape on every damn episode... I can't even watch it... makes me sick.
anyway, it will sell in japan, they have rape simulator games... for when the dating sim just doesn't take the edge off anymore.
I don't think the game should be withheld, but Rockstar needs to realize that this shit just isn't necessary.
Also...this is beside the point.. but the game was going to suck anyway.
There is going to be pure chaos if this task is not accomplished.