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Man gets cease & desist for fiddling with Skylanders toys photo

Graphing calculator programmer Brandon Wilson likes to tinker with machines and post his findings online, for no reason other than entertainment and curiosity. Recently, he turned his attention to Skylanders, the unique game that uses physical toys to interact with a virtual world. Activision apparently didn't like it, slapping him with a cease & desist order.

Wilson worked out the encryption protocol used for storing data on the toys, and intended to emulate his own Skylanders portal peripheral. While his activities involved working around security chips, his intent was purely innocent and clearly wasn't intended for piracy. Lawyers don't discriminate, however, and Wilson has agreed not to continue publishing his findings.

It's a shame that genuinely interesting projects like this get shut down in the earth-scorching war against piracy. While I certainly understand why lawyers don't discriminate, it doesn't make it any less sad. 

Activision delivers cease and desist to Skylanders tinkerer [Geek.com]








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BkV's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:03
BkV
I wonder if Activision will ever send messages to all those soft modders that I see on Youtube.
Chris Creo's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:03
Chris Creo
Does shoving them up my ass count?
Scuffles's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:06
Scuffles
In fairness the workaround for the actual security sounded more like it was a work around for the Xbox360 not the Skylanders portal itself. Since apparently the 360 has some measures put in place to prevent connecting unauthorized USB hardware.

But I really only glazed over the article in passing.
flintmech's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:10
flintmech
It doesn't sound like what he was doing was anywhere near the realm of piracy-enabling, rather finding creative new ways to use the toy figures with other hardware/software. Definitely pure White Hat stuff, but it's not surprising that Activision is siccing the dogs on him.
Scuffles's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:12
Scuffles
Also I still highly doubt that the actual Skylanders had any "encryption", Obfuscation possibly but obfuscation != encryption.
SephirothX's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:14
SephirothX
Well, if the guy was publishing how to work around a security encryption... yeah, his intentions were good but that's something you really shouldnt do.
the guy with the hat's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:14
the guy with the hat
This header doesn't have enough Chang from the last episode of community.
Pocky Monster's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:17
Pocky Monster
of course, this is the sort of bullshit that makes more pirates. I know a few people who pirate games on principle. specifically, principles against this sort of shit. so you stopped the guy who was doing it for curiosities sake. congratulations, you just made people want to do it for piracies sake. *slow clap*
flintmech's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:20
flintmech
@SephirothX

Not if circumventing said "encryption" does no harm. Often times, encryption isn't being used to protect anything, and only exists to prevent end users from tinkering, locking them into using the tool the way the designer originally intended.

Plus, like Scuffles said, it probably wasn't actually encrypted to begin with.
Scuffles's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:20
Scuffles
@Pocky Monster

Oxymoron: Pirate on principle.

Principals would never warrant piracy, if it was a true case of Principals they would stop playing games by (insert offending developer/publisher).
flintmech's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:22
flintmech
@Pocky Monster

Except this has nothing to do with piracy.
Zanch's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:22
Zanch
The reason Activision is pissed is because he posted the results on his website, not because he was tinkering in the first place. You can't blame them for not wanting others to see it, no matter how pure his intentions are.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:24
Chris Carter
The Supreme Court ruled that you can jailbreak devices, because once you bought it, you own it. I wonder if he could apply that same principle here, even if the case is technically different (because he wanted to publish it).
Scuffles's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:25
Scuffles
blargh principles*
Jinx 01's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:35
Jinx 01
These companies need to figure out that you can't stop the signal. Everything goes somewhere.
Epic-Kx's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:37
Epic-Kx
@Pocky Monster
....Piracy? Where?
RoninZero's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:37
RoninZero
Someone summon Jonathan Holmes and ask him if it is pedophilia to tinker with a Skylanders toy's coding.
Captain of the Zanarkand Abes's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:38
Captain of the Zanarkand Abes
.......Well that sucks.
Maniac's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:45
Maniac
@Epic-Kx

Counterfeit Skylander toys != Piracy
SephirothX's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:48
SephirothX
@flintmech
Yeah, but isn't that also what Geohotz got taken to court for?
Gabriel Diaz's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 11:01
Gabriel Diaz
Same case,to a degree, as that dude sued by Sony.

Again, their mistake (and problem) wasn't tinkering with the hardware. It was actually posting delicate stuff online for all to download, as is this case

I myself have pirated software myself before, and i just laugh everytime someone says piracy happens as a statement to "The Man". Brother please...

Piracy happens because it's made easy and free. No way around it, no sugar-coating it.
catsithx's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 11:12
catsithx
Bunch of whiners it wasn't like he was going to rob them of anything since(imo ) the game was a flop and really didn't sell that good.
flintmech's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 11:17
flintmech
@SephirothX

Pretty much. It was bullshit then, and it's bullshit now as well.
Freakydemon's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 11:19
Freakydemon
Awh, now I'm curious what he would make :(
free touch's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 11:25
free touch
catsith: I dont think you know what you say. Skylanders was a pretty big seller from what I understand, all you need to do is go into your local store an see how many sets are left, and how much the "rare" pieces are going for on ebay.
RenegadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 11:44
RenegadePanda
Clearly he was reverse engineering Skylander figures and planned to sell the specs to terrorist leaders overseas who wanted to use them for advanced guidance systems on their nuclear missiles to launch an attack on the entire world.

I for one salute Activision for single handedly preventing a full scale nuclear war.
OmegaPlatinum's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 12:06
OmegaPlatinum
I think this is a good example of how companies will handle problems if SOPA passes as it is now.
Retrofraction's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 12:30
Retrofraction
that's to bad
Ryan Waggoner's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 12:55
Ryan Waggoner
Well, like your own post said. They didn't say to stop tinkering. They told him to stop posting his findings.

I'd imagine their worries isn't so much in his innocence, but in the fact that that information being made public opens doors to much more devastating endeavors.
Fearzone's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 13:07
Fearzone
I'd feel a little more outrage if the article explained what he was doing or how his "modding," if you will, benefitted the Skylanders experience. All it says here is he found a way to crack the game, and nothing else. For all we know he was planning to create cheat codes. I can hardly blame the makers of Skylanders for doing the same thing Sony did when it got cracked.
flintmech's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 13:22
flintmech
@Fearzone

O noes! Cheat codez! Say it ain't so! WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN?
Suigyoken's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 15:08
Suigyoken
I think this has to do more with another company doing reverse engineering and stealing this tech than it has to do with some guy tinkering...
MetalReaper's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 15:17
MetalReaper
He must have figured out how to get into Tron.
Scuffles's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 18:45
Scuffles
@Suigyoken

Reverse engineering what exactly?

I will almost guarentee that if I ripped open one of the Skylanders figures it would be packed to the brim with an off the shelf RFID module.

That could be ordered from any one of a hundred electronic retailers..... ZOMG lets hope they don't reverse engineer that readily available technology.

What little "Cracking" might be going on would be little more than figuring out what information is stored in something as complex as a serial number.

Its going to likely include a boolean that indicates whether or not its a "limited edition". An Identification block, a section for accumulated experience. Along with additional sub blocks that deal with whatever limited equips and skills can be given to the character.

This isn't rocket science or high level code cracking... this is more on the level of being able to tell what the barcode on a can of soup tells the register at checkout.....
Kushaba Akami's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/31/2011 14:42
Kushaba Akami
Once again activision manages to piss off EVERYONE!
randombullseye's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/31/2011 16:02
randombullseye
The simple work around is having someone "steal" his findings and publish those.
PhilK3nS3bb3n's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/01/2012 14:03
PhilK3nS3bb3n
I like butts
BoomingEchoes's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2012 14:12
BoomingEchoes
Nothing for nothing but even if it was innocent he was still not doing what was within the legal reaches of the law. He was still going to offer access to things for free or next to it that are the intellectual property of another entity.

Honestly -and I'm probably off base- but this doesn't seem all that different then sending a friend some MP3's because they had a bad day: Its for a positive reason, but its still not right. If we let shit like this slide then I don't really feel like we can honestly sit here and bitch about the greater, eviler, whole of piracy.
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