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Ugh, I was working on a LittleBigPlanet 2 trailer at the same time. Stupid sequels getting me confused. Headline fixed.
This is a prime example of why it's hard for me to get into KZ - not a lick of actual story. It's all "let's take this bunker/blow up that bridge/reclaim the super weapon". Does this game even have a plot, or is it just a list of military objectives?
@amtalx: you looking for a complex human drama like let´s say Black Ops? or a sophisticate comedy like Bulletstorm dicktits? ..
FPS writting doesn´t excel like in any of them. It´s there to make a fiction and that´s it
FPS writting doesn´t excel like in any of them. It´s there to make a fiction and that´s it
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Welly, welly, welly, welly, welly, welly, well. To what do I owe the extreme pleasure of this surprising voiceover?
I feel more like it's a miss opportunity than anything else. The KZ universe and the history of the conflict between the Helghast and Vektans is actually really cool. The problem is that the back story is never told in any of the games. I had to go look it up on a website.
Narrative in FPS games isn't completely alien. Look at Bioshock, or even Halo. Everyone loves to hate on Halo, but at least the objectives in that game are always framed as part a larger conflict. I actually know WHY I'm fighting the Covenant, and their motivation for wanting me dead. KZ is just "STFU soldier. Just shoot the guys with the red eyes."
Although to be fair, Killzone: Liberation had a decent story. It's a shame that title gets overlooked.
Narrative in FPS games isn't completely alien. Look at Bioshock, or even Halo. Everyone loves to hate on Halo, but at least the objectives in that game are always framed as part a larger conflict. I actually know WHY I'm fighting the Covenant, and their motivation for wanting me dead. KZ is just "STFU soldier. Just shoot the guys with the red eyes."
Although to be fair, Killzone: Liberation had a decent story. It's a shame that title gets overlooked.
This trailer double-plus sold me. As in, was already sold, and am now sold again. I really hope this trailer matches the style of the game, because I LOVE it.
I am also....unsettled by the headline. Body-copy with that word is one thing...but uhh... *shudder*
I am also....unsettled by the headline. Body-copy with that word is one thing...but uhh... *shudder*
Malcolm McDowell does play some great villain-type roles. In fact, this looks like one of the best since, well, Wing Commander IV. :)
Anyone remember Admiral Tolwyn?
Anyone remember Admiral Tolwyn?
@amtalx
And here I thought the only reason I was lost was because I skipped the first game and started with 2. Glad to hear I'm not alone in having no idea what's going on!
And here I thought the only reason I was lost was because I skipped the first game and started with 2. Glad to hear I'm not alone in having no idea what's going on!
At least this game put a couple of faces on the baddies. The last one had the Radec in a mask the whole game.
It looks great (again), but did anyone else notice how at 1:34 that dude gets slapped but his body reacts in the total opposite way as it should? Tsk tsk GG. :-P
The guys have an excellent graphics engine, but they use too much baked textures. Yes, I'm a robot with no soul.
I do believe Shadow Marshal Luger is back :). This game needs a female avatar in multiplayer. I'm perplexed as to why there was no Shadow Marshal class in the KZ2 mp.
I have to echo the sentiment of "Please kill that choadmuffin Rico". That sumbitch absolutely ruined the campaign for me.
I have to echo the sentiment of "Please kill that choadmuffin Rico". That sumbitch absolutely ruined the campaign for me.
I love how some people talk are trying to say that FPS games have had narrative in them by choosing terrible examples such as Bioshock. For god sake, go and play the System Shock games or the original Deus Ex. Now they have narrative. The only people who think Bioshock had a good story are people who have never set foot outside of the genre post-Halo.
@Stigmeyer, @brainderailment - seriously. WTF is up with that? I had to watch it several times to make sure I wasn't crazy.
@ Radox
I haven't played System Shock, but I have played Deus Ex. Bioshock is worthy of it's mention. However, to say that people play Bioshock for it's FPS mechanics is what baffles me. It's combat is different, but the actual shooting isn't really that great.
As for the rest of the people claiming they don't know what's going on in Killzone, I really have to shake my head. I understand perfectly what is going on in the games. It's certainly not all that complex...
I haven't played System Shock, but I have played Deus Ex. Bioshock is worthy of it's mention. However, to say that people play Bioshock for it's FPS mechanics is what baffles me. It's combat is different, but the actual shooting isn't really that great.
As for the rest of the people claiming they don't know what's going on in Killzone, I really have to shake my head. I understand perfectly what is going on in the games. It's certainly not all that complex...
Looks good to me. A lot of the lines delivered in the trailer are cheesy, tough guy shooter bullshit, but whatever, it still looks good.
@Radox:
System Shock and Deus Ex are two of my favorite games, but I avoided using them as examples because they are just as much RPG as they are FPS. Comparing those two games with Killzone is extremely flawed since the focus in Killzone is combat. Bioshock is more akin to Killzone in the sense that the action is the driving mechanic. You wouldn't compare Mass Effect to Gears of War would you?
System Shock and Deus Ex are two of my favorite games, but I avoided using them as examples because they are just as much RPG as they are FPS. Comparing those two games with Killzone is extremely flawed since the focus in Killzone is combat. Bioshock is more akin to Killzone in the sense that the action is the driving mechanic. You wouldn't compare Mass Effect to Gears of War would you?
@Drakengard
Understanding the fact that the ISA and Helghast are fighting doesn't exactly take a brain surgeon. But where in Killzone 2 was there any mention of why they're fighting? That's where my confusion comes into play. All I see/hear is a lot of "They're the bad guys! Let's kill them! Ooh rah!"
Like I said, I never played the first, so I'm sure I'm missing something. But the second doesn't exactly do a very good job of helping people understand what the fuck this war is all about.
Understanding the fact that the ISA and Helghast are fighting doesn't exactly take a brain surgeon. But where in Killzone 2 was there any mention of why they're fighting? That's where my confusion comes into play. All I see/hear is a lot of "They're the bad guys! Let's kill them! Ooh rah!"
Like I said, I never played the first, so I'm sure I'm missing something. But the second doesn't exactly do a very good job of helping people understand what the fuck this war is all about.
@mrandydixon
douchebag, if you every really played the game and not just BS'ing online, you would know every thing you need to know in the first five minutes of walking around in the game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjLIYSjWS50&feature=related
douchebag, if you every really played the game and not just BS'ing online, you would know every thing you need to know in the first five minutes of walking around in the game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjLIYSjWS50&feature=related
That actually doesn't explain the origin of the Helghast/Vektan conflict in any way shape or form. That cut scene explains who rose to power over the Helghast ground forces as a result of the events from Killzone: Liberation, but never actually explains WHY you are fighting them. I think its pretty funny that you don't know the answer either though.
Yeah, it's a damn shame...the KZ backstory is actually pretty good sci-fi, but they went and put it all on a website rather than, you know, *in the game*.
@ amtalax
Are you kidding me? It explains EVERYTHING. The ISA is there because the Helghast stole a bunch of nukes. Yeah, that happened in KZ: Liberation. But that's why the invasion is happening and that's all that's pertinent.
The extra information was given to those who cared enough to read between the lines of the conversations in Killzone with Hacka as well as Visari's rhetoric. And there was the timeline that GG gave everyone if they really wanted the info dump on the whole conflict.
Are you kidding me? It explains EVERYTHING. The ISA is there because the Helghast stole a bunch of nukes. Yeah, that happened in KZ: Liberation. But that's why the invasion is happening and that's all that's pertinent.
The extra information was given to those who cared enough to read between the lines of the conversations in Killzone with Hacka as well as Visari's rhetoric. And there was the timeline that GG gave everyone if they really wanted the info dump on the whole conflict.
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