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"There are also those few who prefer a control pad over a joystick. Not sure what their story is"
Read the second to last sentence in your first paragraph.
Read the second to last sentence in your first paragraph.
My boss bought the pad, and I bought a Hori stick. We intend to battle tonight to see which is superior.
I love my Blanka fightpads! I am doing much better in SFIV with the pad than with the Sixaxis on PS3 for SF2THDR. To many acronyms with these streetfighter games.
Hey, does anyone know if I can use one of these pads to play PS1 and PS2 games on my PS3? I suppose same question applies for the sticks as well.
hahah diverse u make me laule!
and r u sure u can beat anyone who uses a pad? because quite frankly, its pretty ez to move just my thumb faster than it is to move my entire ARM haha
also, fpoons
and r u sure u can beat anyone who uses a pad? because quite frankly, its pretty ez to move just my thumb faster than it is to move my entire ARM haha
also, fpoons
I'm looking at this controller and it looks fine at first glance...but then I think of the future.
Its only a matter of time before MvC2 comes out on XBLA, and I wonder how good the trigger buttons are on the controller....I played loads of MvC2 on the Dreamcast, so I think I need shoulder triggers that are comparable to that.
Its only a matter of time before MvC2 comes out on XBLA, and I wonder how good the trigger buttons are on the controller....I played loads of MvC2 on the Dreamcast, so I think I need shoulder triggers that are comparable to that.
"There are also those few who prefer a control pad over a joystick. Not sure what their story is, but hell, at least I know I could beat them in any fighting game."
That sounds like a challenge if ever I heard one. XBLA:haxan1 PSN:Haxan I have SSF2HDRM, SFIV, and fighter pads for both systems. Hit me up with whatever stick you want. I'm curious to see who's the better fighter. >:)
That sounds like a challenge if ever I heard one. XBLA:haxan1 PSN:Haxan I have SSF2HDRM, SFIV, and fighter pads for both systems. Hit me up with whatever stick you want. I'm curious to see who's the better fighter. >:)
Do you have to buy batteries for the PS3 one, or can you just charge it like regular PS3 controllers?
And will it work on games like MK Vs. DC and Soul Calibur 4?
And will it work on games like MK Vs. DC and Soul Calibur 4?
I had no intention on buying any of these controllers/joysticks (still don't), but they were a great read and very informative. Thanks, James with a Z.
Why doesn't this have an analog stick? Fighting games are so much easier to play with an analog stick. :(
What I need is a PS2 controller for my XBox. The PS2 controller was, IMO, the best controller for fighting games ever.
What I need is a PS2 controller for my XBox. The PS2 controller was, IMO, the best controller for fighting games ever.
@Gen Eric Gui: Fighters with an analog? How could you? If the PS2 controller had a better d-pad maybe but I hate the Sony d-pad for fighters. It's too stiff to easily transition through combos for me. I also hate shoulder buttons. The person who decided to use them in the first place is an ass. This pad has a great button layout especially for SFIV's ultras which require 3 buttons to be pressed at once. And, no, providing a 3-in-1 button doesn't count. Still, I prefer a good arcade stick.
I feel that this article is condecending towards people who didnt grow up in a big city or in the US.
Hell, I grew up in a big city in the US, and I still hate playing fighting games with arcade controls. Maybe it has been my economic sensibility to shell out money to own a console version of games that has swayed me to use standard controllers.
If I were to have been shucking quarters into machines for all of the matches of SF and the like I've played, I would probably cover Keiji Inafune's severance package myself.
That being said, I'm glad that Mad Catz has made a commendable effort to create pads that work for fighters of all preferences. It's like picking out sports equipment. It plays a part, but as long as it's functional, it has a pretty minimal effect on your performance.
If I were to have been shucking quarters into machines for all of the matches of SF and the like I've played, I would probably cover Keiji Inafune's severance package myself.
That being said, I'm glad that Mad Catz has made a commendable effort to create pads that work for fighters of all preferences. It's like picking out sports equipment. It plays a part, but as long as it's functional, it has a pretty minimal effect on your performance.
@Nilcam: Sorry, don't hate me :( I've just always found it easier to roll moves like HCF and QCF with the analog stick. And it's the only way I've ever been able to reliably do 360 motions(I mean, I can -barely- do a 360 on d-pad, but I can do walk-up 720's on analog). I just find it to be a lot smoother and faster than doing it on pad.
And I actually find it a lot easier to hit multiple buttons on the standard pad as opposed to flat layouts like this one. For instance, if I need to do an EX special, I just have to "pinch" and hit Triangle and R1 or Circle and R2 at the same time, and I've done my EX. Triple Punches and Triple Kicks are also pretty easy doing it this way. I have no idea how you're suppose to hit three at once on a flat pad, except via programming the shoulder keys to do it for you.
That being said, I just heard that this controller's pad actually doubles as an analog stick. Is there any truth to this?
As it is, I may have to break down and buy a stick; I just hate it because I never really got to play in arcades having lived in the boonies my whole life, so it's an entirely new experience for me.
And I actually find it a lot easier to hit multiple buttons on the standard pad as opposed to flat layouts like this one. For instance, if I need to do an EX special, I just have to "pinch" and hit Triangle and R1 or Circle and R2 at the same time, and I've done my EX. Triple Punches and Triple Kicks are also pretty easy doing it this way. I have no idea how you're suppose to hit three at once on a flat pad, except via programming the shoulder keys to do it for you.
That being said, I just heard that this controller's pad actually doubles as an analog stick. Is there any truth to this?
As it is, I may have to break down and buy a stick; I just hate it because I never really got to play in arcades having lived in the boonies my whole life, so it's an entirely new experience for me.
@Gen Eric Gui
From what I can tell, there's a switch on the controller that dictates whether the DPad corresponds to the DPad, right analog or left analog.
From what I can tell, there's a switch on the controller that dictates whether the DPad corresponds to the DPad, right analog or left analog.
I tried the pad out, and while it is better then the stock 360 pad, I wasn't all that impressed. I compared it with the previously released 15th anniversary Street Fighter pads for the PS2, and it felt just a little better if not the same. Though compared to a Saturn pad, it still pales in comparison to the 2-D master that is the Saturn's d-pad.
The controller felt a bit cheap to me as far as build quality goes. A small complaint would be that the artwork was not as high res as I would have hoped.
All in all, $40 seems like a lot for a 3rd party controller, no matter who makes it. I may pick this up when it goes down to $20, but at the moment, it seems like more style over substance. For me, paying $40 for a d-pad that is only a little better then the 360's just isn't worth it.
The controller felt a bit cheap to me as far as build quality goes. A small complaint would be that the artwork was not as high res as I would have hoped.
All in all, $40 seems like a lot for a 3rd party controller, no matter who makes it. I may pick this up when it goes down to $20, but at the moment, it seems like more style over substance. For me, paying $40 for a d-pad that is only a little better then the 360's just isn't worth it.
I understand how the circle motions are easier on an analogue, but for any quick snappy left to right movements, an analogue stick is just FAR too slow for a 2d game. I remember when I played Guilty Gear on the old X-Box (who's d-pad wasn't quite as bad as the 360 one) I would actually switch between the d-pad and analogue for doing certain moves easier (usually super moves on the analogue with multiple qc/hc's in them).
I hope these end up getting bargain binned with overstocks like the SFIIA controllers... I still have a PS2 one of those I got for like $10, and I wish I could just use it on a 360 >=/
I hope these end up getting bargain binned with overstocks like the SFIIA controllers... I still have a PS2 one of those I got for like $10, and I wish I could just use it on a 360 >=/
The only movement I don't like on the Analog is double-taps, like for dashing and what.
But on the PS2 pad, the D-pad was right there and I could just flip my thumb up to hit it for double, taps, and then smoothly and quickly return it to the stick for everything else. The motion never tripped me up or anything. On the 360 pad it's all ass-backwards and in uncomfortable places and I don't like it.
But on the PS2 pad, the D-pad was right there and I could just flip my thumb up to hit it for double, taps, and then smoothly and quickly return it to the stick for everything else. The motion never tripped me up or anything. On the 360 pad it's all ass-backwards and in uncomfortable places and I don't like it.
I'm with Gen Eric on this one, in that I find myself really enjoying my Street Fighter with an analog stick.
Left right does feel like molasses though, but that's probably just the game design/my choice of fighters
Left right does feel like molasses though, but that's probably just the game design/my choice of fighters
I would definitely prefer this over the sticks. If money wasn't an issue, then I might give the tournament addition a look, but I would probably still go with this. It's not that I don't like joysticks, it's that the buttons on arcade cabinets make my fingers hurt, in fighting games anyway. I don't know why, but my hand isn't meant to be in that position. So that's why I prefer dpads.
Also, I could beat your ass 6 ways to Sunday in Melee, Jamez. Or Soul Caliber 2, because I know people always bash Melee for not being a "true" fighting game, whatever that means.
Also, I could beat your ass 6 ways to Sunday in Melee, Jamez. Or Soul Caliber 2, because I know people always bash Melee for not being a "true" fighting game, whatever that means.
I've been using the same PSX Dual Shock pad for fighting games since it first came out. I'll be getting a joystick/or building one soon, but pad-wise, I'll stick to "Old Rattles" here.
Due to my unorthodox method of controller holding/usage (born left-handed, taught to do everything right-handed), I cannot roll on analog for the life of me. HCF, QCF, it doesn't matter. I have to use a joystick or deal with the definitive tactile feel of a D-pad.
That being said, this pad looks awesome. I wouldn't mind picking this up when I'm not in debt. :P
That being said, this pad looks awesome. I wouldn't mind picking this up when I'm not in debt. :P
I might have to pick one up, though I wont be using it specifically for fighters, more for shmups.
Also, when will Microsoft lighten up on their wireless license. I understand their greed, but seeing as the SF4 controller is not competing with the dual analog 360 controller, I don't see the point.
Also, when will Microsoft lighten up on their wireless license. I understand their greed, but seeing as the SF4 controller is not competing with the dual analog 360 controller, I don't see the point.
"There are also those few who prefer a control pad over a joystick. Not sure what their story is, but hell, at least I know I could beat them in any fighting game."
.... o_O
.... o_O
yeah the writer is an ass, and his article is not even good.
Stick vs D-pad, comes down to personal preferences but if we have to get technical, im pretty sure that a d-pad and thumb are faster than hand and stick...
"decent d-pad" are you out of your mind, that is the exact same d-pad that's been plaguing the xbox 360 controller, the only decent d-pad ever created for the 360 came from a little company called Hori, ask Topher Cantler, he knows something about it.
Yeah I have to agree with the button layout is good, shoulder buttons are not quite the best thing. But I'd rather have a good d-pad with shoulder buttons.
Stick vs D-pad, comes down to personal preferences but if we have to get technical, im pretty sure that a d-pad and thumb are faster than hand and stick...
"decent d-pad" are you out of your mind, that is the exact same d-pad that's been plaguing the xbox 360 controller, the only decent d-pad ever created for the 360 came from a little company called Hori, ask Topher Cantler, he knows something about it.
Yeah I have to agree with the button layout is good, shoulder buttons are not quite the best thing. But I'd rather have a good d-pad with shoulder buttons.
FUUUUUUUUU---
I just remembered the controller Hori made that had a normal d-pad instead of this stupid raised d-pad BS. And now they are all super rare and expensive or something ;_;.
I just remembered the controller Hori made that had a normal d-pad instead of this stupid raised d-pad BS. And now they are all super rare and expensive or something ;_;.
Who is this guy? Every article he's written about these SFIV products sounds like a sales brochure from MadCatz.
ARGH!! Too many options!! I want the TE but considering that I'd have to do things I'd regret afterwards to get one, I'll need to go with either this or the FightStick. All I know is that my thumb is getting raped by the PS3 d-pad and my pride is getting raped by the CPU, not to mention anyone online.
No one ever answered my question. Do you have to buy batteries for the PS3 Fightpad, or do you charge it like regular PS3 controllers?
I'd be a bit interested if the thing is wireless. since it's wired, might as well use an arcade stick for a more complete arcade experience...
@mrplow8 the thing is wired so no charging required.
@mrplow8 the thing is wired so no charging required.
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