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9:38 AM on 09.08.2008
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One word: Hackintosh
A Mac Pro for the cost of a Macbook.
That's like me bitching that my old 95 Gateway can't play Crisis.
Listen, if you want to play the newest shit, you have to have a newer PC with a new graphics card that can handle it.
END OF STORY
Now quit your whining. This isn't a Mac problem...
Spore is several times less intensive than Crysis and a 2007 macbook is several times more powerful than a 95 Gateway.
Furthermore, as noted above, the PC version will run on the SAME COMPUTER under Windows. So yes, this IS a Mac problem.
Actually.. to be more specific it's developer laziness.. the article asks why they bother to develop for the Mac.. the truth is that they aren't developing for the Mac at all.. these titles use third party virtualization software to get these games running, which increases the resources needed dramatically.
Ouch, epic fail!
Is this some kind of marketing strategy akin to that Vista only horseshit MS were peddling, despite games not using DX10 features?
It's just a recurrent joke(macfags)
If developers were to embrace the mac as a gaming platform (like they did with the iPhone) who knows what sort of results they'd get (you don't, shut up troll).
Or, why not just Boot Camp into Windows? Then you only need one computer.
my Macbook Pro was made in 2006 and spore runs just peachy on it, thankyouverymuch, i even have it running on my boot camp partition splendidly:
2.16Ghz, 2G RAM, Radeon X1600, 256 VRAM. native 1440x900
the only problem with the default setting, which was documented in the README, was that if Spore was jerky in OSX to lower shadow effects, which i did, and everything else is on high with no problems... but then i can also crossover the Orange Box with great success, so maybe my machine is supercharged with win?
meanwhile, on the XP-bootcamp side, it's business as usual for PC gaming.. Mass Effect and Crysis notwithstanding.
The fact that the program will not run a certain Mac graphics card in OSX, but WILL if in Boot Camp is just stupid and sloppy.
It's not like a Macbook is equivalent to an old Dell or something.
I guess yet another reason I won't be buying this.
word. i've been the Mistress of Whine when it comes to Cider ports, and have found that Transgaming has come a long way from when i used to support it as a debian-er... back when i salivated at the TG American McGee's Alice.. *sigh* i used to love you, Transgaming, but you were a different company then.
although when it comes to EA "allowing" mac ports, Cider's new on the field of suck. it used to be Aspyr, so i can't complain too much now. either way, it's laziness on the developer's part to require intel hardware and then skimp out on a native release. it was understandable when it was for PPCmac architecture, but now there's even less excuse... in fact, they could go the route of Vendetta Online and make win/*nix/mac, if only they knew the deep dark secret about OSX being bsd core OOPSISAIDTOOMUCH.
i think that, as always, EA is just wearing their ass as a hat.
re: mac vs. PC for games: i came to the conclusion (personally) that console gaming was more my style. although i do enjoy some PC gaming as well, it's not the primary purpose of my computing needs (no, that would be comment-spamming), and after a decade or so of PC use, mostly open-source, i found that rather than spend a bunch of money over time to continuously upgrade components i was better suited to plop down the same amount of money in one go for a machine that lasts me about as long sans-hardware work.. doubly so for the last 9 years since i've been almost exclusively a laptop user, and since OSX is a shiny version of the open-source goodness i was already using it was a logical step.
this is my reasoning for using a mac, i suspect others have similar reasons, but LOLZMACGAMEZ people sometimes miss the point and expect that every mac user is an apple fanboy at their own expense (ok, some are). rant off.
Face it. Microsoft owns the computing world. Want to compete? Make something better, instead of churing out vacant, apostolic zombies.
Isn't that what Apple wants you to do? Swap your Apple products for the latest model every year?
see:
[url=http://www.tuaw.com/2008/06/17/run-spore-creature-creator-on-unsupported-gma-950-macs/]TUAW[url]
This is the only nonconsole game I was excited for, so it is a real downer to not be able to play this game. My mac works better than my old PC for streaming to my 360, and I haven't had a OS error yet. All in all, happy with my switch to Mac.
Also, aspyr still hasn't put out a COD4 mac version, hilarious.
Isn't that what *every* manufacturer of systems and components wants you to do?
We live on both sides of the fence, and the grass is always green.
All these people are whining that you use macs, but the article is about how a relatively new computer can't run a new, not particularly graphically demanding game, at ALL.
I suppose you didn't get that memo about what happens when you purchase a mac. you get the mac, software, a couple of stickers, a 3 year supply of smug-in-a-can and a nice snifter so that you can sample your own farts. you can't fault us mac users, we're just using what we got. ;-)
I don't think the system specs are unreasonable, and I don't feel I'm being "forced" to upgrade my laptop. I chose this computer knowing it's great for a lot of things, but not games.
I don't think the system specs are unreasonable, and I don't feel I'm being forced to upgrade my laptop. I chose this computer knowing it's great for a lot of things, but not games.
You're starting to sound like a Mac user!
Listen, you elitist, high horse eclectic twats, there is nothing wrong with OS X. Nothing. Just like there's nothing wrong with Windows. For fucks sake, a computer being different does not mean it's of a fucking lesser caliber. And he never said he bought the computer to play games. Have you cunts ever considered that MAYBE, he bought a computer with more than games in mind? No? Oh, sur-fucking-prise.
And no, not every Mac user is a art grad student with a soul patch and a set of acid washed jeans in a fucking beatnik hat. We're not ALL assholes, though the way you guys act in this thread alone, I'm sure you're fitting the connotation you've just set forth. I hate those "Get a Mac" and "it just works." commercials as much as you do, and I wish they'd stop pushing that bullshit, but for a group of 'higher-thinking' people who say they won't get swayed by the media (when it comes to gaming anyway) you sure as fuck love to complain about a standard that is set forth by the media anyway.
And yeah, late 2007 computers and on are the ones that can play Spore. Don't act like this is a Mac only problem too, you twats- technology progresses with age, and that's the same reason people have to upgrade their PCs once every few years. You're bitching about the same thing you have to do eventually to run newer games, just because you're looking for more justification of that one beatnik you saw sitting in Starbucks writing his novel on how to fucking change the world.
It's shit like this that still makes even racial epithets socially acceptable. Grow the fuck up.
In conclusion, OS X is great. Windows is great. They're both great, and you focusing on games alone as a way to judge a computer is just as shallow and ignorant as it is fucking insane.
Runs on my mac just fine, in OS X. Stop being so stupid.
If you hate macs, you've never owned one.
Chill the fuck out, fanboy.
Dude, did you just fucking say there's nothing wrong with Windows?
Way to throw any semblance of credibility out the window.
However, every game developer needs to keep in mind what kind of hardware is available in the real world, and adjust accordingly. If too many Macs have older graphics hardware, game developers need to take that into account.
Really, everybody is at fault for this.
* TheStripe: "If you hate macs, you've never owned one."
I've owned several, and I've hated every one of them. I have to own a Mac, because too many of my clients use them.
Ever try to make a "write once, run everywhere" Java programs that doesn't give a blank screen, or write a web app that uses simple DOM calls that doesn't completely CRASH Safari? It's painful and frustrating.