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Lulz: Clip from Penn & Teller: Bullsh*t! on videogames photo

I like Penn & Teller: Bullsh*t!, that Showtime series that cracks open anything and everything you'd be curious/passionate about and makes it look silly/stupid/trivial. Their next focus is on video games, and a new clip from the upcoming show features an anti-violent video game activist (pictured above) that we can laugh at.

Check out his "fire chart" on games and violence. Classic. One of his triangle's sides is "mass-killing simulators," or what we'd call first-person shooters. Here we go. Wait until you get a load of his idea for FPS games.

This will be part of the seventh season of P&T:B!, so be sure to check it out, Showtime subscribers. We hear that Jack Thompson will be making an appearance in this episode. Oh, goody.

[via gamestooge]

 








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Pime Taradox's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 23:04
Pime Taradox
I love this show and have never missed an episode, but I'm going to be twice as sure to watch this one. Great show, great topic, can't wait.
covah's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 23:07
covah
I need to see this episode bad
Arsenic13's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 23:15
Arsenic13
Ugh. Look at this guy. He has nothing in his life from the looks of it. A nice game would cheer him up.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 23:15
Chronic Logic
Circumcision episode was great. Gonna love this video game episode as well.
mr spooky's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 23:17
mr spooky
Its The Stay Puft Marshmallow Man!
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 23:28
Chris Carter
I absolutely love Penn Jillette.
adultswim810's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 23:28
adultswim810
I CAME UP WITH A GAME CALLED QUARK. ITS LIKE QUAKE EXCEPT INSTEAD OF FRAGGING PEOPLE YOU FRUG THEM, WHICH MEANS FREE HUGS!

Whoever gets that reference I will love forever.
adultswim810's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 23:29
adultswim810
fuck, also its on noah's ark
Dimly's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 23:29
Dimly
I will be watching it.

According to Jack Thompson during his SGC Q&A, he "won't do well," in that episode of Bullshit.
AgentMOO's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 23:33
AgentMOO
"finding sick people and hitting them with a magic wand to make them healthy" confirmed for 360!
13thDragon's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 23:35
13thDragon
It's in the 7th season?! Wow. I watched the first two seasons on DVD a few years ago. I loved it but didn't know it was still on.
akumaserge's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 23:52
akumaserge
"finding sick people and hitting them with a magic wand to make them healthy"

...Apparently this guy never played trauma center.
etirflita's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 00:04
etirflita
@AgentMOO: nah, magic wand health maker is a PS3 exlusive-
Usedtabe's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 00:11
Usedtabe
@AgentMoo: I guess he's never played as a medic in TF2, eh?
JonahFalcon's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 00:58
JonahFalcon
We can replace "Video Games" with "The Bible", and find it provoked far more deaths.
DrParable's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 01:35
DrParable
@adultswim810: isn't that from the now-defunct Flash show Bonus Stage? It sounds like it.

Also, I've never missed a P&T episode yet (it's the only TV I watch), and for this episode, I'm going to have so mush fun yelling at the set I'll probably be arrested for a domestic disturbance.
Nessie's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 03:16
Nessie
yesssss :D
Zantetsuken's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 03:32
Zantetsuken
@Detox

There are plenty of other ways to watch it if you know what I mean.


I live in England and have seen all the episodes of this series so far.
TheToiletDuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 04:57
TheToiletDuck
Yeah Detox, there are usually heaps of NOT-seeds for this.

Can't wait to see Penn and Tellers take on this, should be hilarious.
Grape's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 05:19
Grape
Penn & Teller are biased "entertainers" (not journalists) who use even uglier truth-twisting methods than Michael Moore. It's easy to make people look stupid. And the way they do it, is also cheap.
GabrielMobius's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 06:45
GabrielMobius
@Grape: Awww, sounds like someone got their pet belief punched in the nuts by Penn and Teller. Go cry some more.

As for the article: Hell yes, I can't wait to see this episode. This' gonna be hilarious.
Brolsen's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 06:47
Brolsen
@grape

Well at least its fun :D
dancinbojangles's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 07:10
dancinbojangles
Even if his triangle were 100% accurate, that's like saying we should remove all the oxygen from the world. God knows we wouldn't have any fires then! I especially like how he's not concerned with the "troubled kids" side at all. Screw providing counselling and aid to THOSE weirdos!
Grape's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 07:59
Grape
@GabrielMobius: Well not really, I don't like the show and it's tone even if I agree many times with P&T. If their aim is to "punch beliefs" they sure could do it lot better and intelligently. Or then again, maybe they can't - in my opinion, they are in same league as Bill O'Reilly.

@Brolsen: As funny as Bill O'Reilly.
Turbofail's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 08:16
Turbofail
@dancinbojangles: HAHA, good point =D
AgentMOO's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 08:28
AgentMOO
@Usedtabe I think he means a game fully based on that mechanic, as opposed to balancing it out. It might make for a ridiculous XNA game, like desert bus from back in the day.
davo's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 09:47
davo
ummm... does nobody else see that "GUNS" is also a part of his triangle? I am lucky enough to live in a country where guns are severely restricted and... guess what?... there are very few shootings! A few knifings here and there, but in the words of Jeff Lang:

"...what about when he has one of those days when anger descends on him like a cloud. Armed with a knife, Yeah, he might take a life, but with a gun no tellin how many he'd take down...

...I guess that's the lesson not all people are aggressive, Some people just shoot cans for the thrill,
But people always snappin you can't say what would happen
When you make it too easy to kill"
KorJax's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 17:13
KorJax
@davo

Too bad there's a signifigantly higher percentage of gun-crimes/armed murders in Britian than in a country like the USA (which has almost non-exsistant gun laws):



Compare that to:



It's pretty much statistically proven that the more guns circulated and freely available in a society, the safer the society is. This is due to a mixture of deterrence (criminals knowing other people have weapons), people being more relaxed around guns, having a more responsible point of view with them, and they open up hobbies options such as range-shooting sporting events/organizations which are big advocates for responsible fire-arm use.
sanadawarrior's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 17:31
sanadawarrior
How does your graph make any sense, that's 1 per 1,000,000 in the U.K. in 2006 compared to almost 600 to every 100,000 in the U.S. If anything that doesn't make your point.
sanadawarrior's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 17:33
sanadawarrior
Also your two graphs aren't even for the same thing, one is for fire arm homicides only and the other is for all violent crimes...
KorJax's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 20:59
KorJax
@sanada

600 to every 1000 is =~ to about 6 mill in this graph. It's not "600 x 1000" because that would be about 6 billion which is almost the population of the earth.

The point is "violent crime" and incidents involving firearms is on the decline in the US and has been for quite some time while countries like the UK have had the incidents and crimes involving gun use either not change depending on the year or rise.

Banning guns doesn't actually get rid of guns from criminals (black market prevails over all else). Much like how game DRM doesn't actually get rid of pirates.

However what it does get rid of is guns in citizen circulation which makes self-defense mostly void against 99% of criminals (who now have black market guns), doesn't encourage responsibility and sportsmanship with firearms, etc.

Of course the only way to get a gun legally in the US is through a license. Yes this means criminals can get guns too but they would already be able to do so even with a ban.
The Kojukinator's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2009 11:44
The Kojukinator
I play flight sims because I don't really have the opportunity to fly multi-million/billion dollar aircraft at leisure, without consequence, and at almost no cost to myself and/or society. I play racing simulators for similar reasons. That goes on for all sorts of simulators, which essentially covers every game out there. Technically Mario is a simulation, just not one very true to real life... but I digress.

Playing mass-killing simulators... well they are an outlet and a substitute to the real thing. Do I want to perform real mass-killings? Not really, because I understand the context of real living beings versus virtual living beings. However, the simulation still allows me to explore scenarios, reflect on them, and develop emotional responses to them... without real life consequences. I think when in the correct state of mind, this is perfectly healthy stuff.

What's interesting is this guy's chart is not off base at all, it's just too specific. It consists of three elements, two of which are irrelevant. "Guns", "FPS games", and "Troubled Kid". It shouldn't take someone winning "parent of the universe" award to realize that Guns and FPS games are not a problem, they are natural elements (just like oxygen, and heat). However, the Troubled Kid element is the important one (just like the fuel). The focus should be on the kid, fix the kid! Fix his parents, fix his environment, fix his childhood! Don't fix oxygen, or heat... who the hell do you think you are to even think you are capable of doing that anyway?

Honestly it doesn't matter what you combing "Troubled Kid" with, it's always going to be bad! Troubled Kid + Drugs + Guns = Bad... + Hookers + Guns = Bad... + Bible + Guns = Bad... + Cars + Drugs = Bad... + TV/Movies + Drugs + Guns + Cars = Bad... + Money (get anything with it) = Bad...

The Point is Troubled Kid = Bad, leave the other shit alone. Maybe we can ban Troubled Kids?
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