They could have at least been on time and noticed a few months ago.

Yea, the news is always one sided, which is why you should never believe anything you see on TV.

This just shows how ignorant people are. Apparently they would be happy if all of our rights were taken away so it would make it easier to raise children. Or more aptly, not raise their own children.

The world is in a sick state of affairs when you have to make up lies about how bad and indecent video games are.

I thought the exact same thing when I saw this footage earlier. "Did she just say 'yes, unfortunately' to the dude who said that it ultimately up to parents to control this rather than the government?" There's a lot to be angry about from this piece.

The one woman's point that a lot of children let themselves in after school and can go and have free reign over the video games is made entirely invalid by the part run earlier in the segment where Microsoft explains that parents can quite easily lock out certain game ratings and limit play time.

The actual informed debate was cut short so a bunch of jerkoffs who know little about the topic could have a little roundtable discussion amongst themselves.

And then, yes, it's not a right of our government to control what we can and cannot play, but rather, that onus belongs to the parents. Unfortunately.

It could have been worse Jim, at least Geoff Keighley is respectable and composed. Imagine how it would have looked had we had Adam Sessler or Kevin Perreira representing the game industry.

Worst possible scenario is Kudo Tsunoda on the tail end of a 3 day booze and coke bender defending Mass Effect on Fox News.

That woman that Geoff went up against is a poor excuse of a psychologist. She sounded like a completely ignorant twit, and it's pretty clear that money comes before credibility in terms of her career. Geoff was walking into a trap is right, but I'm glad he was able to put in at least a few words of reason before being cut off.

But seriously, WTF was up with that panel in the second half??? Do people really listen to the completely vapid nonsense that comes out of their mouths? People need to stop worrying so much about children and videogames, and start worrying a little more about the corrupting influence of Fox News on adult mental states.

This is what I wrote on a c-blog about this:

"But you have to pick up the box and look at the back for the rating and then..you have to be involved in what your kids are looking at."

GOD-FOR-FUCKING BID YOU HAVE TO BE INVOLVED WITH YOUR CHILD'S LIFE! These people are morons. And the Black woman says that it's dangerous to have games like that in the house because a kid is going to say "I'm going to play my dad's video games." Did she not read Microsoft's statement about parental controls? Is she an idiot?

I'm just FUCKING tired of these things because no one gets to have a word in the topic. Anything that's worth listening to, anyway. What's the point? What's the point if you're going to have these right-wing dip shits have more time to spew out their ignorant word vomit? Geoff did not get the time he deserved to talk about the topic.

There has to be some major news cooperation that has some intelligent and lengthy discussion about this.'

"I'm surprised that this game wasn't rated AO."

FOR SHOWING A FUCKING SIDEBOOB AND AN ASSCRACK!? If that's the case, you dumb cunt, then we should have any movie with a sex scene be rated X.

This was on the C-Blogs yesterday, even though the whoever blogged about it got no apparent credit for it. Dunno if anyone else blogged about it, but I did see it and it annoyed the shit out of me.

Goes to show that Fox News is crap.

Geoff should have just gone:

"It has an M rating, says Sexual Themes rught on the box"
"But don't you think that--"
"It has an M rating"
"Right...but what about--"
"It has an M rating"
"Yes I see but if--"
"M RATING".
"BUT THE CHILDREN!"
"ITS M!".

Geoff Keighley is awesome.

Hahaha, they make it seem like the game contacts interactive porn, haha! The scene last maybe 30 seconds and you barely see anything.

Here it is the big porn scene hahaha!

They say you control the sexual acts, DO WANT

i couldnt get through the first few hours of this game. I found it boring, mainly because of my ADD.

Anyways I bet very few kids under 18 would have the attention span to play through the whole game and even get the X-rated scenes as well. You really deserve it. Do you get any achievements for it?

If no, then you should.

I just ... I wish I was there. I wish I was in Geoff's seat (not that he didn't do admirably). I could answer he talk about "mostly adolescents" playing games by reminding her that the ACTUAL average gamer is 20 - 30 years old, I could laugh at her talk of "studies" with my own studies that show the exact opposite, I could just outlogic her faux logic so hard she'd lost that smug, smarmy grin pretty quick.

To quote the stupid woman herself -- "Let me at 'er, Martha."

Also, I think I throw up a little everytime one of these people hearkens back to the good ol days of Pong and Pac-Man.

"I could laugh at her talk of "studies" with my own studies that show the exact opposite"

Actually I have to comment on this. One defense that never gets used but I SO WANT someone to say is that when someone says "Well the University of Elves says that games have a damaging effect on young people" to just go "Actually the study I have here says that games turn 99% of people OFF violence, get them more friends and usually increase the amount of money they earn each year two fold". As soon as they say "Can you prove that statement?" you just say "Can you prove yours?". Combat BS with BS.

FUCKING DINOSAURS!

WOW! Video Games look like that now? DURRRR!!! IGNORANT FUCKS!!! Sorry for cursing so much. I'm just really upset right now.

I don't think its the videogames that are making me want to strangle these idiots.

I have to say that I'm not at all surprised by the kind of stuff like this. And especially after the Iraq stuff, we should have learned not to believe everything we are told, and that same mentality extends to games and the news.

Best way is for people to educate themselves, unfortunately many are too lazy to do even that, and settle for spoon fed lies and ignorance.

I've always said, the established media see games as a rival for peoples time and money, and will thus always seek to dumb the games industry down and focus on anything remotely negative about them. They fear the day people switch off the news and on their consoles.

I never trust these so called experts (even Hitler had some of them). It gets like the very draconian nations we are trying to topple every day. And the weird thing is these same propaganda pushing news outlet, take cheques for running game ads on their stations. It seems that developer/publisher money is good enough for them, but the truth about games isn't for their public.

Its no different in the U.K with Sky News or BBC either.

"Most shameful of all, however, is the pitiful reaction of host Martha MacCallum who answered the rightful claim that "it's up to parents to control what their kids are seeing," with "it is, unfortunately."

........
"Fox News:
News for the criminally inane!"

I love how the non gamers love to focus on sexual intercourses in a action/adventure game. Shows how dirty minds are these days for one thing. The other being that people who don't play games should still, STFU. It continues to make people look just as dumb as they are attacking a game will a small bit of sexual relations.

Seriously after the chick said she never played the game, I would've ended the conversation right there. It just goes back to people who bash a game they've never played. Reading up a bit on it, watching a few vids, then they think they know all about the game when clearly they don't.

http://www.amazon.com/review/product/1599211793/ref=cm_cr_pr_link_1?%5Fencoding=UTF8&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending

if you wanna see something funny, you should see reviews of the book. Most people don't even read reviews, but if they see 1 star they just steer clear of it. serves her right.

Adult rating? It's porn now? WOW, just wow. America is more divided than I thought. These are the ignorant stupids at FOX NEWS

one day i hope to make enough money to buy out a news show and put some actual NEW on the air. honestly just based on supply and demand, there are currently no mainstream shows that portray game as anything short of devil worship, and most of the world prefers not to be lied to by cunt suckers with mail order degrees.

and could someone tell me why on earth they had that panelist part at the end? Rather than let the expert tell you something about the topic, we are given crap some idiot has trouble reading the back of a box. I honestly can't understand how anyone gets their news from TV any more.

I still can't believe that in 2008 these type of people exist.

Email - cooper@cooperlawrenceshow.com till you flood her email

If it wasn't a natural part of the developing mind to want to expose itself to nudity, why in the living, almighty FUCK would kids bother to look for it?

Just when I think I can't hate Fox News any more...they prove me wrong. I can't believe there are people who still don't do their proper fucking research or ignore it in favor of a fucking agenda.

Jim Sterling defending Mass Effect, now I've seen everything.

Major kudos to Geoff. Fuck all of that though, I'm really getting fed up with Fox News and mainstream media in general.

what kind of world are we living in where people are forced to take care of our own children. why cant my television and computer and the government do that for me.

oh and the other day i was playing halo and i shot my freind because i thought he had an overshield. damn i just cant tell the difference some times...according to a study

We really should just start a cult against completely idiotic media/people against Video Games they know nothing of. Because I'm getting quite annoyed of Nintendo and whatnot getting praise for their casual greatness, yet games that are meant for their age, gets attacked when someone thinks out the box and throws out the game rating just so they can win a media fight.

seriously folks. If they have time to bitch and complain about 30 seconds of sex, we have time to bitch and complain about how stupid media continues to rub themselves to all.

How do we get Jim on TV?

When I watched this a few days ago, I was actually pretty upset about it. This is the same reason why I have been ranting lately about the need for there to be a new law about being unable to report on something in the news without getting all sides of the story, rather than the side that argues only for the title of it.

And being fair in it, that's the most important part of it.

Among the things I spotted wrong with this, here's my list!

1. A new video game leaving nothing to imagination: Overdone line, completely false once again. Mass Effect is not perfect in this sense, no game is.

2. Some parts of the game featuring full digital nudity: Again false. It happens once and it is not full digital nudity. You get a side boob and a very brief butt shot. There's worse in PG-13 movies.

3. The person that's playing the game gets to decide exactly whats going to happen between them: A practically completely false statement. The only control the player has is whether or not the scene happens at all.

4. Critics say the game is being marketed to kids and teenagers: Another lie. This lie on behalf of the critics moreso. This game was not marketed to kids and teenagers, and received no additional hype than any other game. Simple fact is that it is a video game, it had hype, thus critics just spouting bullshit trying to meet their quota like a cop pulling someone over for going 1 MPH over the speedlimit. These critics are archaeic thinkers and are still stuck in the NES/Atari Generation.

5. Cooper Lawrence's New Book: A failure on her part to not abide by the very words she is speaking. For someone who appears and speaks about "How boys see girls" I wonder why she wore her fancy getup and even had her book mentioned on the show? Her little "I'm a sexy gal in a girl power pose" she had going on for the cover of her book speaks exactly against the point she was trying to make. If she was actually serious about the situation, she wouldn't pose for her book or even mention it. She would let her words say what she is trying to convey and not gather attention to her book via the picture on the cover.

6. All that jazz about monitoring the time and the options: Complete lie once again. I'm surprised these people still have jobs.

7. The Statistics: According to Cooper, the statistics still say that adolescent males are playing video games. Despite that female gamers are on the rise and the actual average age of a gamer is in their twenties.

8. We all know the research says that violence has a desensitizing effect: Many things desensitize. They don't all get on fox news. And why is that? Because it's natural. People naturally become more and more desensitized as life goes on. What are we going to do, begin censoring that image where the ball tossed by the pitcher hits the bird in mid flight at a MLB game? I'm sure most have seen it. It was broadcast no less than 100 times on national news. Not censored once. Matter of fact, it was slowed down to the point where you can see the bird hit, feathers flying everywhere and all. Desensitizing is of no effect in our culture anymore.

9. The developing mind: A completely pointless notation that was ruled out when she claimed lies about the age and desensitization.

10. Objects of Desire: Sex Sells. No TV station or advertising board. No Magazine or Newspaper is void of this. And every publisher or distributor is guilty of selling sex at least a little bit. This is no more Bioware's fault than it is Fox News itself, or Miss Cooper for putting herself in that pose on her book.

11. It's a Man in this game deciding..: Again false. I also picked up that slight condescending tone on the "Man" part.

12. "Cooper have you ever played Mass Effect?" "No": This is the part where a lot of gamers get really huffy about "if you don't actually know what goes on in the game, what right do you have to speak about it?" In her defense, I do this at times myself on different topics. I think we all do. But she partially laughed when saying No, as if it was something extremely unbelievable. It was as though Geoff was asking her if she had ever masturbated in a public restroom. It was a simple question that did not need to be associated with the laugh. What does that laugh imply? It can imply many things. Perhaps she feels that games are below her, video games are smut, girls don't play video games, etc.. Whatever the reason, I think her scope is extremely narrow - and I now have a good idea of how well thought her book will be.

13. "[sarcasm] Right. And the young boys will be choosing not to have sex. That'll be what they choose. [/sarcasm]": That is not Biowares fault. The choice is there, but it is not forced. Bioware cannot control who gets their hands on an M Rated game, and what they do with it when they get home.

14. "Who can argue that Luke Skywalker meets Debbie Does Dallas is a good thing?": Pretty much no one unless you just happen to be cruising the porn aisle, which i'm fairly certain there's a porno out there based on Star Wars. But that's the problem. This is not that scenario. This is an example of a misinformed little knowledged douchebag speaking to a large audience about things he knows nothing about. In reality, this is more of an example of "Luke Skywalkers meets Princess Leia in that slave outfit".

15. "I'm definitely not going to let Mass Effect into my house": The smartest thing coming on behalf of Fox News throught the entire segment. Parents have ultimate control. You don't want it in your house, don't let it. If your kid wanted to bring a rat into the house to keep as a pet, or a lizard they found in the front yard, would the parent allow it? Sure it's not going to cause the end of the world to come about, and it might be dangerous in some fashion - especially if mishandled. But it's up to the parents to make this call. But if little Timmy decides he wants to have big brother/sister or wants to test his luck at a store and then smuggle it into the home - it's still up to the parents to put precautions up to prohibit the experience.

16. "Once its in the house.. Not always supervised.": An excellent point, but as the microsoft response earlier in the segment said, there are multiple options available to parents to block this kind of content. Even if the parent is not around, if the child does not know the password - the child cannot play a game of that rating. Period. I say congrats to this person to not paying attention to the very talkings going on that were taking place no more than 5 feet away.

17. "Not sure why it didn't get an adults only rating": Interesting comment. Has she played the game? Doubt it. Did she read the cover of the box? Doubt it. Did she do any research at all? Doubt it. Is she just tossing her commentary in there so she can bring up some kind of contribution to the talks so her boss doesn't call her useless and fire her? You'd be sure as fuck that this was the case jimbob!

18. "This board that rates them needs to have their head examined.": Irony.. The Nuclear Hot Sauced Irony. The board does their jobs correctly and labels the game as it was supposed to be. But obviously the half of the newscasters have completely failed to properly research a game before speaking about it. If anything can be learned from this, it's that "Youtube is not supposed to do Your Job for you."

19. "What happened to Atari and Pinball and Pac-Man?": Firstly, she looks like she is in her early twenties. If she is much older than that to actually be around in Atari's big days, then I have to say kudos to keeping up the looks! Secondly, Pac Man was in 1980. A lot has changed since then. If we went on dependancy of the newscasters to bring things about to our attention, there's a hell of a lot to say about assassinations, murder, weapons, computing, consoles and almost everything else under the sun. It's their job to remain informed, especially in a group that makes a living to bring information to the public at large. When a person cannot fathom what is going on in the gaming market, considering the weeks of coverage on multiple 'game-related' ambulance chasers such as Jack Thompson, then they are obviously not doing their job.

The total of all of this? Somebody needs to start a petition of making multiple images, printing them out and every single one of them mailing Fox News with the bold letters across the image reading "YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!"

Hot Damn that was a long post! Sorry guys and gals! I kind of got on a roll of a rant and didn't realize it was that long. I should have made it my first Blog Entry.

Ah well, what can I do now but apologize and promise you guys it'll never happen again.

But it could have been worse. It could have been a giant wall of text. At least I spaced it out and all, eh! Made it nice and pretty to read?.. Though, honestly, if it weren't my own post - i'd likely say to m'self "Too Long. Didn't Read."

Ah well, sorry again.

Awesome post Dennen,bravo!

Gotta love how she was disgusted that Geoff even SUGGESTED her actually playing the game.

Apparently she gets her research from the University of Maryland. Research tells her everything she needs to know. She never does research herself of course. She just checks out what research has to say and then spouts her venom on Fox News.

The USA just keeps getting better! I dunno how you guys can handle living in a country full of neo-fascists and religious freaks. The fact that parents don't want to be responsible for their kids anymore is just great! Nanny state ftw! :P

Can someone please tell me why I watch things like this when I know it is only going to make me angry? The cocks on this panel are poster children for enforced sterilisation.

They're just mad that Democrats are garnering their viewers...pretentious pricks.


O_o

*sigh* it's just videogames turn, first it was rock and roll, TV and now Videogames.

"Ignorance is bliss" seems to be the general idea when reporting on news-facts nowadays... who ever thought the Matrix would have such results? :-)

Wow...just wow. It's no wonder game struggle to get the recognition they deserve when you have a bunch of uninformed, ignorant and biased morons shouting down the one voice of reason in the room, without even one trying to constructively debate his points.

That video made me far angrier than I wanted to be first thing in the morning, bastards!

Holy fucking shit. I just got home and watched this trainwreck of a video and can only say one thing: I wish that games had taught me how to be a killer, because I would gladly, and without remorse, kill each and every person on this clip.

Really? Really? You honestly think that games should be regulated to the point that you don't actually have to act like a true parent? It's like they haven't heard of the ESRB; the panel that was formed because people couldn't spend five fucking seconds to watch the game that they had bought for their own child.

America=Epic fail.

"*whine with incorrect facts*" "Have you played it?" "No! lolz" Ok...

Oh wow, couldn't even listen to half of this, got way too embarrasing... Cooper is [censored]*, and from what I heard (and I would have loved to hear it all but the idiocy of the others is too much) Geoff needs much love and appreciation.

*What I think about her is censored, she on the other hand unfortunately isn't....

Email sent to Ms Lawrence. Too . . . Long .