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LittleBigPlanet servers get served: Glitches force LBP offline photo

LittleBigPlanet really hasn't had a lot of luck. Having got over its delay, the latest hurdle facing the PS3's crown jewel is a mass of online problems, including level theft, trophy whoring and broken or unfinished uploads. It doesn't help that the servers have been struggling to cope as well.

In fact, the problems are so great that LBP's online mode has been pulled. The official reason for this is being stated as "glitching issues" which are apparently affecting offline play. All we know at the moment is that Media Molecule is working hard to fix the problems.

Wow, really bad news for what is Sony's biggest exclusives of the generation this far. A week's delay, controversy, a load of bugs and abuse and now a server pull. Smooth sailing this has not been.


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DemonEyes23's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 12:47
DemonEyes23
ouch. Kind of unfortunate i'm sure media molecule will get things sorted out though hopefully sooner rather than later. Let's just blame this on the popularity of the game shall we? The servers just couldn't handle that amount of awesome.
ceark's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 12:56
ceark
yeah. birthing pains. I'm sure by the time I'm done with Fallout 3 everythings gonna be peachy with this game.
lyfeforce's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 12:57
lyfeforce
Yeesh. I just picked it up today and was looking forward to doing some online play. At least I have the other elventy games coming out today/next week to keep me busy while this gets sorted.
GorbushPeepwood's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 12:58
GorbushPeepwood
bummmmmer, i wanted to pick this up today, but now i dont know.
Xbudz's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 12:58
Xbudz
damn
Flesh Into Gear's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 12:59
Flesh Into Gear
Im very excited by LBP, but I have to say that this is typical PS3. It was this way with the new Socom and will probably be this way with Resistance 2. How can you consistently underestimate how much activity online gaming will demand on your network? Oh yeah, you shipped your console with no headset of any kind and dont put out a game worth playing online for about 2 years after console launch, so you really have no bearing on this. Sony should contact Xbox Live for some tips.
Mr Wilson's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 13:01
Mr Wilson
I was so disappointed when I finally got my PS3 updated so i could play online and nothing...I guess my PS3 is going back into hibernation.
elsteveo's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 13:02
elsteveo
Grats on your Free PSN
casualweaponry's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 13:06
casualweaponry
@Flesh Into Gear,
Someone is going to call you a troll, but you know what? You're absolutely right.

Halo 3 had very few problems at launch. Why the hell is every PS3 online launch so damn crappy? LBP was lagging my OFFLINE game because it was trying to get score/level/gamer updates during gameplay. Things got so bad that I just gave up for the night.

Beta testing my ass. I still love LBP though :)
wardrox's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 13:10
wardrox
If only somebody could have predicted a current-gen big title's servers would fuck up. If only.
Surf314's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 13:11
Surf314
Yea my game was chugging really really bad in single player and I was about to exchange it thinking my disk was faulty. I looked online and found out that the problem was online. Its a shame because they integrated the online functionality seamlessly and brilliantly throughout the whole game so I can see where it's causing all these problems. Oh well at least I can still use my PS Eye to make stickers of my junk.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 13:13
Tubatic
Like Castle Crashers, like Soul Calibur, like Fable II . . .

The smoothest release with online functionality that i remember? The Burning Crusade expansion. It was so not broken when it released, so far as server issues. Or at the least, less broken than anyone could have ever expected.

But there's always this same launch day onlien problem with these consoles . . . strange that.
Wghj55's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 13:13
Wghj55
Yeah it sucks that the online play isn't fully operational...luckily there is still the story mode which is tons of fun and has soo much to unlock in it. Plus there is level creation which you can spend hours upon hours in, and just wait till the servers come back up to upload. If this actually stops anyone from buying it then they that's just silly.
Mr Wilson's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 13:14
Mr Wilson
I agree with Flesh Into Gear 100%. Nail. on. the. head.
d1rtfarm's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 13:16
d1rtfarm
I've only had a ps3 for a few months (after I got tired of the rrod), but this seems like a constant problem with new games. I am loving LBP, but server issues are a serious problem. I purchase a game so I can use it's advertised features. When those features don't work, I have been cheated. When it happens with every single AAA title on the ps3, that is either gross negligence or something worse. Maybe if I send Sony $50 and a fruit basket they'll add some more rack space...or maybe a bit of the old class-action would help?
Flesh Into Gear's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 13:16
Flesh Into Gear
I like gaming. But more than that, I like for little stuff to just work because, its little stuff. I think making a good game takes a lot of care and time. And I from what I hear they made a really good game. But throw in the fact that they arent ready online and thats just a little thing, but in this case, its huge. And its nothing new for PS3. Little things like having an intergrated online community established at launch, not 2 years? later. And I understand that PSN is free, but Id rather pay for something thats ready to go out of the box and has most of the bugs worked out, than wait.. and wait.. for something like HOME, which im stoked about, but at this rate, it wont be working till next year. And I dont care if they said itll be out this year.
elsteveo's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 13:24
elsteveo
They even had an extra week to get the server's up to spec
parrothead's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 13:26
parrothead
I am glad I have not got it yet. Maybe when I finally get it all the bugs will be fixed
Flesh Into Gear's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 13:28
Flesh Into Gear
All this being said, and SONY wonders why XBOX is outselling in Japan, XBOX sells more copies of multi playform games, even when the specs says that PS3 is superior.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 13:28
mix
Yeah the online has sooo much lag it's brutal to play right now.

Level stealing is an issue as there are already 2 levels that are the same by 2 different people and they are not the person who 1st created the level during the beta period.

I guess I am just make some levels with my GF until this smooths over.
Danmartigan's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 13:32
Danmartigan
maybe all the 4D is clogging up the blast processing unit?
Emrah's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 13:50
Emrah
Maybe it wasn't the Qu'ran song that caused the delay, they might have just needed an excuse for extra time, which wasn't sufficient. They could have told so.
Corak's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 13:53
Corak
@flesh

Is the Castle Crashers issue fixed yet, patched? I remember that there were random disconnects, save games getting deleted, very laggy co-op right at launch. The big issue last year with Live at the holidays, remember that, your paid service? I played WOW in its infancy and this is nothing compared to what like that was like for months. It goes both ways, its not just Sony, its MS, its Blizzard, it just happens that it has been more Sony recently with some of their exclusive games.

Companies never "over" do anything, in fact they do the bare minimum to turn the highest profit. If they have to scramble later on to fix stuff they do that. Why? Because there is a chance they won't have to do that. This little hicup won't change LBP's mass appeal. I've been saying this on other people's blogs all week, I didn't expect the servers to be 100% reliable at launch. Why? Because a game with this much appeal its to be expected. Yes in a perfect gaming world where we all get along, everyone loves eachother, and companies over-do everything in the sake of making sure a game works perfectly at launch this wouldn't be an issue. But since that shit isn't ever going to happen you have to deal with it. In a few days or maybe a week this won't be an issue anymore or at least it shouldn't be.
-PL-'s Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 14:12
-PL-
A huge console game release having online problems at launch? Say it ain't so!
Flesh Into Gear's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 14:14
Flesh Into Gear
@ Corak

I agree, I dont think this mishap will not affect the appeal. Very true statement. Let me further say that im really upset BECAUSE I am anxious to get this title.

That said, I know companies do as little as possible to make the highest profit. They make games like ALONE IN THE DARK for the 360/PS3. Not LBP. I will agree with you that servers arent always st 100%. But why did I love playing Halo 3 online launch night? Gears of war? CoD4(360)? They key there being that thier servers were somewhat ready for the load. Althought they had the difficulty during last winter that is attributed to all the extra time people had around the christmas holidays.This is not the case here. And you mean to tell me that they didnt cover thier asses cuz of profit to potentially fix a map-stealing bug? Thats pretty harsh. Wouldnt you say?
Is that LBP's problem? Maybe. But you have to ask the question, at some point, of why PS3 is losing exclusivity to its titles? Do you think youll ever see Gears on PS3? Nope. But now you can buy GTA 4, and will be able to get FF13 on Xbox. Thats no coincidence. Its because game studios go with the system that SELLS GAMES. Like Halo and Gears, which have solid online launch play. Not saying that LBP isnt going to move games and consoles, but for a HUGE title for PS3's sake, youd think they would try o get it right before they put it out. Or at least make it safe to not map steal. Thats all im saying.
Flesh Into Gear's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 14:16
Flesh Into Gear
**I agree, I dont think this mishap **will** affect...
DemonEyes23's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 14:25
DemonEyes23
i've gotta say you people act like every game (or atleast every xbox game) releases without a hitch and we all well know that is not the case. Everytime WoW has a major update you'll be lucky to get on that day. Fact is theres unfortunately a difference between small scale beta testing (even large betas) and when the game actually releases give it a couple of days i'm sure the devs are toiling away as we speak sacrificing sleep so that you'll be able to do the same.
Spectreman's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 14:26
Spectreman
* The servers seems crap. Even the menu freezes when you are online. I really hope they fix, because otherwise the game don´t deservers a good score.
DemonEyes23's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 14:30
DemonEyes23
@Flesh Into Gear
Bioshock anyone? Halo is a property of microsoft isn't it so of course that's not jumping ships whereas the playstation as historically relied much more heavily upon 3rd party software and given the times it makes more sense to be multiplatform. So now that the ps3 is picking up steam and doing well enough you will start to see those ol xbox IP start to become multiplatform as well atleast if it makes sense to. There are few IPs from the xbox that would make a nice home on the playstation and given the fanboyism of their devs (fable i'm looking at you) you aren't too likely to see them switch.
dmgi's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 14:30
dmgi
Playing yesterday was a pain in the ass. I'm glad they took the server down instead of just giving people pain-in-the-ass online gameplay so they can't complain that the servers suck.
Flesh Into Gear's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 14:41
Flesh Into Gear
@DemonEyes23

Well said, but my point wasnt at IPs in gerneral. My point was quality online play. Take the fact that I want Fallout 3, and thought about getting it seeing hows theres no online mode. But what swayed me to Xbox.. honestly, I wanted the achievement points. Because ive already got some, they are established to where I can measure them up with my friends on XboxLive, and the fact that I have friends on an online medium to compare my acheivements to. PSN? Not so much. Sure, ive bothered with some friends, but to enable trophys this late in the game, and not even make them retro-active. So I have to go back and redo all the shit ive already done on my PS3 games to get them? No thanks. Waste of my time.
Even something that doesnt have to do with clogged servers loses PS3 money because they are getting intoduced into the vast server-heavy world of online demand.
Johnny Justice's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 14:57
Johnny Justice
Wow! I can't wait to get that Ziggy Stardust costume.
Conrad Zimmerman's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 15:08
Conrad Zimmerman
Johnny Justice wins.
klubjunkee's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 15:28
klubjunkee
Just like those who spent half day refreshing crashed websites to secure a LBP BETA code. It's frustrating to say the least but well worth it in the end.

The laggy server issue sucks but how many of you roughed through it because the game is just THAT GOOD (When it's working)!

If the game mediocre and servers were laggy, it wouldn't be headline on every gaming blog. We all just want to get back to exploring LBP. Besides, there's still much to do in the offline mode.
Corak's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 16:18
Corak
@flesh

I don't really care about exclusive titles and who's system they are on, that's fanboy shit there. And in case you didn't know there was an article here yesterday Link, about some interesting software sales. It's definatly not the end all be all of the numbers game in any case and yes the Konami stat is skewed because of MGS4, but it shows an interesting take on where software game company's revenue comes from. Losing exclusive titles doesn't concern me in the least, it lets the developers maximize their profits which means better games for all.

There was something interesting I remember about what some survival guy said, "when gathering firewood for the night, get what you think you need then multiply it by 5." I think when estimating server needs for games like this use that same rule, take what you think you need then multiply it by 5.
seamonkey420's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 16:31
seamonkey420
@flesh into the gears

wow.. talk about ps3 angst..

btw, do we have to keep bringing up the fact that Live was having MAJOR issues last holiday season? imo the worst time eva to have problems. hehe.

like others have said; its not just sony or microsoft, its almost every game w/an online component lately that is highly anticipated. i've come to the point where i expect server issues w/a games release if its popular.
casualweaponry's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 16:53
casualweaponry
I'm can't defend Live; but honestly who thought that Live would do well enough to have server problems o.O

I really like LBP. I played WoW for 2 years, and I was around when Steam first launched. Major server problems all around.

Customers shouldn't expect online functionality to be broken on Day 1. Especially when you have something really cool that could push holiday system sales.

We'll all forgive and forget, but I wish companies would actually use their exclusive betas to stress test their servers, and not just build hype for their game.
Necros's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 17:00
Necros
I'd like to point out that even the servers for getting your free preorder outfits has been fucking up, seeing as neither of my codes is working. Disappointing all around.
necrozen's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 17:40
necrozen
News to me. Been working on my own level for the last day and a half - online worked good yesterday morning though. Never thought creating would be as fun as playing, but I'm actually MORE into making my own level at the moment - I've put in something like 8 hours into creation already. That was pretty surprising to me.

Well, lets all hope they get it fixed soon. My online explorations yesterday were amazing and I was looking forward to jumping back in!
fetusmilk's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 18:03
fetusmilk
think about it. alot of people playing online, also alot of people uploading levels all at the same time, there bound o be some lag with LBP. uploading levels has to take some time and bandwidth.
Fleet3000's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/29/2008 01:02
Fleet3000
and the internets asplode with disapproval!
el_chack's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/29/2008 02:03
el_chack
Did the beta version have the same problem? If it didn't, what was the problem here then? I guess this happens when you skip some quality tests just because you want to earn money asap.

Bad news, not for gamers but for Sony, who is the one losing money because of this.
Kyousuke Nanbu's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/29/2008 02:50
Kyousuke Nanbu
@ Tubatic.

Not sure what you're getting at but they didn't pull the online modes for any of those games, Castle Crashers is buggy, Fable 2 co-op is shit and Soul Calibur, well its a fighting game and I've never played a fighting game with a decent netcode.

But you can still play them online.

This is just fucked up, big title, Sony should have known better.

BUT ITS FREE SO DON'T BITCH GUYS.
Ocified-Xboxer's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/29/2008 17:13
Ocified-Xboxer
I've not played LBP yet, so I can't speak to its issues...BUT...If the online was causing issues with the single player, couldn't you just unplug the ethernet or deactivate your wireless when playing it to get smooth play until they fix it?

As far as trophies being very VERY late...yes, I agree. I thought the APs on the 360 were going to be dopey before it was released, but I've become an AP whore who loves to see I have higher scores than my friends...But making trophies retro-active is asking quite a bit. I mean, If I recover my gamertag, I still have my overall score, but individual achivements need to be re-achieved...
Ocified-Xboxer's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/29/2008 17:35
Ocified-Xboxer
As far as the PS brand being built n 3rd party titles, that's sort of a reconfiguring of the facts...The PS2s onslaught, and immense popularity caused it to be the platform of choice for development...Along with the fact that the Xbox was late to the party as far as release, and consumer confidence. I don't think there is much an arguement to be made that by the later portion of the Xboxes lifecycle that 3rd party titles were consistently better, at least graphically, on the Xbox.

But Sony has had, and still does have some insanely great at fantastic first party IPs, as well as the in house devs to create beautiful games. I mean, at least for me, most of what is out on the PS that I want to play are first party games.

I couldn't tell if the "it's free so don't bitch' line was supposed to be sarcastic or not...I hope it was, because the 'it's free' line is getting stale. Especially when the PSN adds a feature, like XMB, that has been available on XBL for years, and the PS3 guys go bonkers about how it's so awesome and just as good as XBL are losing the legs to stand on about since it is free we can't complain.

Either it's awesome, and free, or it is mediocre because it's free. Sure the Christmas breakdown of XBL sucked...And the intermittant issues this year have been annoying. But since I've had my XBL account over the last 6 years, the issues have been few and far between when it comes to reliability.

Gotta pick a side and stick with it...

AND finally, choosing PS3 or 360 with Fallout 3 should be no hard choice if you own both systems...Exclusive DLC (if you have an XBL tag) should be the 'no brainer'. Extra content that you won't see on another console would sway me...(along with the FPS-esque play suits the 360 controller for me better than the DS 3).
Ocified-Xboxer's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/29/2008 17:38
Ocified-Xboxer
@ Kyousuke Nanbu - I can't say that Fable 2s co-op is shit....As long as you don't join a childhood characters game with your adult, you should be fine. ;-)
BattyAdroit's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/31/2008 02:11
BattyAdroit
Hello. My name is Flesh Into Gears. I like my Xbox 360. A lot. My hatred of the Playstation 3 knows no bounds. There's no real reason for it. I don't work for Microsoft. My personal existence doesn't hinge on the success or failure of the Playstation 3. But, for some reason, I feel extremely compelled to be angry at the Playstation. Maybe I just can't help myself. Perhaps some better socialization would've helped me. Either way, I'm part of the problem.

It's very nice to meet you.
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