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One of my favorite user-created levels was the on based on God of War, It was awesome (I am not sure that it has been taken out). Anyway, I don't see a big problem with this. The same level could have been created without reference to GOW and it would sill have been awesome. However, I have issue with them now allowing the users to modify their levels to meet copyright specs... Oh, are they going to also ban MGS and GOW Sackboy disguises... It does not make any sense, they seem to allow those and were even giving them away to people that order the game. If you can wear those disguises, why not create levels based on them... Anyway, in the end, I don't see this as a big limitation for future creations, it just sucks for the levels that had already been created.
Damn, I'll add that I won't be buying this game. My elder bro has bought it and is waiting for it in his mailbox, and I guess we can share the disk now, as it seems like the single player campaign will be the central piece.
Just like Sony acted like a complete pussy with the Qu'ran reference, it is acting like a complete pussy about copyrighted material, which, by all means, is entirely FAIR USE of the material. Sony is trying to be politically correct for the corporate world, a world where everything should cost money, even the smell of fart.
Just like Sony acted like a complete pussy with the Qu'ran reference, it is acting like a complete pussy about copyrighted material, which, by all means, is entirely FAIR USE of the material. Sony is trying to be politically correct for the corporate world, a world where everything should cost money, even the smell of fart.
5 of us stuffed in my livingroon played this game last night for 3 hours straight, laughing our asses off. Despite people who were mad that a song got removed, we enjoyed it, because who gives a shit? The server worked flawless - i think it went down once during the week, but it's fixed now, so who gives a shit? And we didn't play any levels based on anything else - we mostly played vehicle levels and they were really fun - we also found that just opening a blank level in the editor and creating the most fucked up shit you can think of - together - is VERY INTERTAINING! So yeah, make your own shit.
I mean, I completely support those who want this game to fail for the various reasons they keep giving. That's fine. While you're concentrating on that, me and a room full of my friends are going to be enjoying it.
I mean, I completely support those who want this game to fail for the various reasons they keep giving. That's fine. While you're concentrating on that, me and a room full of my friends are going to be enjoying it.
well darn. and i was seriously considering thinking about buying a ps3 for this game. oh well. back to my 360.
@pagancollective:
"Anyone who calls this a non-story is blinded by the Sony lights."
Totally, they're getting all revveed up like a deuce, like another runner in the night.
"Anyone who calls this a non-story is blinded by the Sony lights."
Totally, they're getting all revveed up like a deuce, like another runner in the night.
@pagancollective:
"Anyone who calls this a non-story is blinded by the Sony lights."
Totally, they're getting all revved up like a deuce, like another runner in the night.
"Anyone who calls this a non-story is blinded by the Sony lights."
Totally, they're getting all revved up like a deuce, like another runner in the night.
You Mr Squawk are wrong. Sure, we can do nothing about it, but there's nothing wrong with letting out our views on this or any other game related situation.
This is a valid news item, because LBP is a good game which is breaking new ground. Its a shame that scared people and copyright can mess things up for us, even when no money is being paid.
Are you saying its too much for Sony, to email gamers that have created such content and warn them of the situation?
This is a valid news item, because LBP is a good game which is breaking new ground. Its a shame that scared people and copyright can mess things up for us, even when no money is being paid.
Are you saying its too much for Sony, to email gamers that have created such content and warn them of the situation?
Some people have managed to find a work around, although results have varied.
http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=littlebigplanet&thread.id=190316
Either way it appears that the offending levels aren't completely deleted.
http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=littlebigplanet&thread.id=190316
Either way it appears that the offending levels aren't completely deleted.
Were we all really so blind that we didn't see this coming miles and miles away? Why are we acting so shocked now that Sony is trying to delete copyrighted content?
Is it dissapointing that it's happening? Yes! Is it to be expected? Yes! Does Sony have the right to delete the content? Yes!
This doesn't ruin the game for me. It just means people will have to actually use their imagination and come up with their own original ideas.
Is it dissapointing that it's happening? Yes! Is it to be expected? Yes! Does Sony have the right to delete the content? Yes!
This doesn't ruin the game for me. It just means people will have to actually use their imagination and come up with their own original ideas.
I'm waiting for the first corporate sponsored level. I'm dying to see one of those steamboyish Coca Cola commercials you see at the theatre get turned into a LBP level.
Hooray for establishment.
Hooray for establishment.
Read the EULA. I certainly did. A complete ban on your posting other peoples' copyrighted content to LBP is the least of the things you're agreeing to. A couple of the more interesting bits, in my mind, include giving Media Molecule the authority to send DMCA takedown notices on your behalf if anyone puts material up on the internet related to a level you created on LBP. (Possibly even yourself if you decide to create a full game based on a concept you prototyped in LBP.) You also give them permission to do whatever they want with any material you create and post through LBP, including making money off of it. There's no requirement that they give you even a dime.
I strongly suggest you folks READ THE EULA. None of this should be a surprise to anyone. There most definitely was NOT a lack of warning in this case; it was on the screen and you agreed to it the first time you put the disc in the drive! It even covers what they'd do if you put unapproved content up! Seriously!
I strongly suggest you folks READ THE EULA. None of this should be a surprise to anyone. There most definitely was NOT a lack of warning in this case; it was on the screen and you agreed to it the first time you put the disc in the drive! It even covers what they'd do if you put unapproved content up! Seriously!
@Jim
"Let's face it, the vast majority of LBP users are not going to want to create their own 100% original stuff. They'll want Mario, they'll want Sonic, they'll want some level where you're bouncing on the cast of Frasier. They won't want that one."
Good point. It is a shame that MM feel they need to moderate so heavily, really. Perhaps it'll quiet down when they aren't being swamped with thousands of levels a day. Fair Use policy should dictate the majority of these levels are in no way infringing upon copyright, anyway. And if not, at least it will be a bit easier to wade through the trash to find the treasures ><
It has been a somewhat bumpy start to the LBP ride, but personally I'm giving MM the benefit of the doubt. It's a semi-new genre - an ambitious game - on a semi-new platform, by a relatively small developer. There's a lot to iron out, not only technically but also in regards to MM's community policies.
And still, despite the teething issues, the game remains an absolute blast to play.
"Let's face it, the vast majority of LBP users are not going to want to create their own 100% original stuff. They'll want Mario, they'll want Sonic, they'll want some level where you're bouncing on the cast of Frasier. They won't want that one."
Good point. It is a shame that MM feel they need to moderate so heavily, really. Perhaps it'll quiet down when they aren't being swamped with thousands of levels a day. Fair Use policy should dictate the majority of these levels are in no way infringing upon copyright, anyway. And if not, at least it will be a bit easier to wade through the trash to find the treasures ><
It has been a somewhat bumpy start to the LBP ride, but personally I'm giving MM the benefit of the doubt. It's a semi-new genre - an ambitious game - on a semi-new platform, by a relatively small developer. There's a lot to iron out, not only technically but also in regards to MM's community policies.
And still, despite the teething issues, the game remains an absolute blast to play.
People, there is a whole world out there! Why does every game with a level designer have to have levels based on other games? Get creative. Have some imagination. There are a lot of themes you can pick from besides games and movies. Open that door, look outside, its ok... its safe.
Didn't you get the memo Jim? LittleBigPlanet is a place for dreamers -- as long as they aren't interested in dreaming about copyrighted material.
LBP should be something about creativity. Each time I see an internet fad, a level based on another videogame. Good thing that for each 10 levels of brainless copycats, I'll see something a brilliant one that pushes the boundaries of what you can do with LBP. Those are the ones I want to see, not a Mario, a Bioshock or a Halo level.
By the way, for everyone who says that a Mario level won't hinder Nintendo's profits. Ownership of an IP is about brand recognition, and control over the IP is something very important for these companies. If they would allow people to do whatever they want with their characters, these would be out of control, and their direction on the property would be lost. I'm pretty sure that people at Nintendo wouldn't like to see a LBP level where Mario is killing children or something like that. So to prevent abuses, they are better to prevent them all.
By the way, for everyone who says that a Mario level won't hinder Nintendo's profits. Ownership of an IP is about brand recognition, and control over the IP is something very important for these companies. If they would allow people to do whatever they want with their characters, these would be out of control, and their direction on the property would be lost. I'm pretty sure that people at Nintendo wouldn't like to see a LBP level where Mario is killing children or something like that. So to prevent abuses, they are better to prevent them all.
Late to the game...but really? People aren't selling these levels. They aren't even saying that the images within are solely theirs. They are paying tribute to classic games, movies, TV shows, etc. As long as they aren't including sexually explicit material, why the removal? Is it because of the promise that people could possibly make money off their created levels?
And I understand what Milhouse is saying, how a company wouldn't want to see it's IP killing kids or raping women. But my guess is that the majority of the created levels weren't doing that.
You want to give people the freedom to create levels that they want to create, then you need to have set up a way to fairly moderate them prior to the release of the game. Basically: they knew stuff like this would appear, they should have been ready for it.
And I understand what Milhouse is saying, how a company wouldn't want to see it's IP killing kids or raping women. But my guess is that the majority of the created levels weren't doing that.
You want to give people the freedom to create levels that they want to create, then you need to have set up a way to fairly moderate them prior to the release of the game. Basically: they knew stuff like this would appear, they should have been ready for it.
Wait, let me get this straight: Any douchebag can use copyright material in their levels and upload it to Media Molecule's servers, making them liable. But, when Media Molecule removes them so that a) they don't get sued, b) LittleBigPlanet doesn't go the way of E.T the video game, and c) other people who aren't douchebags can continue to upload their levels that are free of copyright material, Media Molecule is the one at fault for not explaining that, hey, someone else owns the rights to the material you just uploaded?
Not a big deal for me.
Here's my problem, why aren't gaming sites telling their fellow gamers to stop being arse-hats and to not use material that is the property of someone else. Seems things would be better if you attack the source, not the response.
Not a big deal for me.
Here's my problem, why aren't gaming sites telling their fellow gamers to stop being arse-hats and to not use material that is the property of someone else. Seems things would be better if you attack the source, not the response.
Crunktastic...well at least this has quenched my desperate thirst to get a PS3 just for that game.
It's pretty lame.
It's pretty lame.
"Like someone said, allowing content that isn't asked to be taken down by an outside publisher (ie. the Youtube model) should work just fine. "
Yeah, that YouTube model is working real well for YouTube, what with them being sued (and they're going to lose) for a billion dollars.
I have no idea where people get this idea from that you have to be making money to commit copyright infrigement. It's not even remotely true.
Seriously, the only surprising thing about this is that Media Molecule seem surprised that people posted a shit load of illegal content which they as publisher are legally responsible for.
Phazer
Yeah, that YouTube model is working real well for YouTube, what with them being sued (and they're going to lose) for a billion dollars.
I have no idea where people get this idea from that you have to be making money to commit copyright infrigement. It's not even remotely true.
Seriously, the only surprising thing about this is that Media Molecule seem surprised that people posted a shit load of illegal content which they as publisher are legally responsible for.
Phazer
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