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LittleBigJihad: Media Molecule addresses LBP delay photo

Following the story that Sony has recalled LittleBigPlanet for fear of offending the Islamic gaming community, developer Media Molecule has spoken out on the situation. Stating they are "shellshocked and gutted" over this late delay, the team revealed that they wanted to patch the offending item, but Sony wouldn't let it happen.

We learnt yesterday that there is a lyric in one of the licensed tracks which some people may find offensive, and which slipped through the usual screening processes. Obviously MM and Sony together took this very seriously. LBP should be enjoyable by all. So within 12 hours of hearing about this issue involving a lyric (in Somalian, I believe!), we prepared an automatic day 0 patch and had a new disk image ready; however a decision was made within Sony that the right thing to do for quality and support of people with no on-line was to replace existing disks. They assure us that they are doing everything in their power to get things straightened out as fast as possible, and will announce dates soon.

This whole debacle is very dismaying, and it's a shame that we as a society are so terrified of offending someone that huge upheavals like this have to happen. I just hope that LittleBigPlanet doesn't get overshadowed by this bottled controversy, as it is too ambitious a concept to be colored by such a ridiculous scenario.

All this over a few words. It's incredibly silly when you think about it.








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Agent Orange's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 15:30
Agent Orange
I hate political correctness so much. You're right, people are way too afraid of offending someone these days. It just so happens that Islam is the big topic these days.
covah's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 15:30
covah
I still say they should of gone with the patch deal. Or at least give people who pre ordered the game this week cus I know for a fact that my gamestop has their, I've seen them and have been taunted by them.
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 15:31
MrSadistic
I feel kinda bad for the guy who pointed it out in the first place. His PSN screen name must be getting hammered with hate messages.
covah's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 15:31
covah
and I just looked at today's Penny Arcade and lol'd for the irony.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 15:33
Tubatic
I think its more about customer service than political correctness.

Sony/MM "Oh that's offensive? Really? Didn't know that, my bad. Let me fix that."

Kudos to MM/Sony for caring about what's in their out of the box product.
shawn is boring's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 15:33
shawn is boring
Here's the song in question http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5cepFETeDM
Tamz's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 15:41
Tamz
I'm Muslim and even I think this is a bit silly, Sony were inevitably going to do something about it, especially after the Resistance: Fall of Man saga, unfortunately they took the drastic approach. A patch would have been a much better option, having said that an extra week isn't something to lose sleep over, I just hope it's around the same amount in Europe.
Dastardly007's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 15:51
Dastardly007
Hey Ho, Cheeky Cheeky Muslim, Cheeky Cheeky Muslim, We Love You.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 15:51
mix
How many people without an internet connection are going to be buying LBP? Man would that game suffer big time witout online access!!!

changing all the discs is HUGE!
SnakeDude4Life's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:00
SnakeDude4Life
This could be the opening that an Islamic version of Jack Thompson have been waiting for.
John B's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:01
John B
Did those assholes at Sony even bother to contact a member of the Muslim religion to determine if the song would have been a problem, or did they just decide to be a bunch of pussies and thought of this bullshit on their own?
linuxguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:02
linuxguy
I'm gonna post the same comment
I am a muslim and I don't find the song in the background to be shocking or hateful in any way.
people have been singing songs with quran excerpts for years so WTF???!
please don't use this occasion to hate on people who did nothing
and stop hating us please.
Alexradl's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:05
Alexradl
Mix:

Seriously, I doubt anyone without an internet connection is going to buy LBP. Who doesn't have an internet connection these days? I hope Sony realizes that this is definitely going to hurt their sales. The average consumer who doesn't read up on the latest video game news is going to be in for a disappointment when they walk into the store next week. It's going to cost them a large amount of money to recall all of the discs that are already at the store.

Everyone is offended about everything. The Muslim population should have condemned the song when it was actually written, but no. It ends up in a game and they are suddenly offended.

This is ridiculous.
John B's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:05
John B
@Tamz:

Okay, then, why would including a Muslim song have been offensive? I think it's pretty safe that using a Christian or Jewish song probably would have caused no problems whatsoever. As a Muslim perhaps you can tell us what would have been offensive about including a song?

(No sarcasm intended. I'm just really fed up with the extreme political correctness that is gripping our world as of late.)
Mabans's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:05
Mabans
I can't wait till the 1st penis level comes out.. I'm sure a lyric in a song is going to be the leasr of their worries.
balth's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:06
balth
http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/balth/lbp-delay-is-complete-and-utter-b-115417-108177.phtml

I'd love your input, Jim (and others).

As MotoRobo so eloquently put it, Fuck Sony.
CountingConflict's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:07
CountingConflict
Yeah.. This is not the time to show any type of bigotry toward another religion. Destructoid is way too awesome for that. Except for Necros... he TOTALLY hates black people... including Muslims I bet.

But besides him... we all luv everyone.

I liked the song... too bad they are taking it out. =(

I also can see someone recreating the song in one of the first levels when the game comes out.
SephirothX's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:08
SephirothX
Whoever doesnt have online probably doesnt have internet. Whoever doesnt have internet probably doesnt know about the LPB planet issue. Therefore when they get the game they arent going to listen for the "offensive" (i use the term loosely) lyrics. Therefore they arent going to know about it anyway!

This is why an online patch is a better idea.
xe-cute's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:08
xe-cute
Just like the Beta got the game hype due to the way it was handled, so will this delay.


You honestly couldn't pay for such publicity, no matter how hard you tried.

The Sony publicity machine must be thinking they have struck gold again with this.

Also this means every retail outlet that broke the release date are well and truly stuffed at trying to explain how they can not return there copies of the game for replacement.

I am going to hold on to my copy firmly and the retail outlet I bought it from can offer to buy it back for more than the inflated price I had to buy it for (just over £50 including postage) if they aproach me requesting it.

Oh, well... does that mean my copy is worth even more money now?

I may sell it on ebay soon if prices rise now that I've completed story mode..... hehehe... nah this one is for keeps!
John B's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:09
John B
@linuxguy:

No worries. Every religion (and even atheism/agnosticism) has its extremist minority. Those who paint the whole because of a few don't deserve our attention anyway -- like console fanboys, for example. :)
worm jerky's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:10
worm jerky
maybe the new packaging will include a surgically implantable vagina for all the pussies of the world so easily offended over nothing.
Mushman's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:12
Mushman
Stupid sony, a patch WOULD BE FINE
xe-cute's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:13
xe-cute
P.S. As with all things like this, I always wonder and feel sorry for the poor chap at work, or at home, whos fault (or will get the blame even if not), is feeling (or even if they know it yet). I imagine the facepalm of them sitting there when it hits home, thinking that there life is over and they will never work in the industry again.
exodus1925's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:13
exodus1925
What was the lyric in question?
Volomon's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:17
Volomon
I'm going to go down straight into the gut of the issue. Screw you if you offended by my comments. Muslims as a whole have not had long to intergrate into society, quite often secluding themselves like the Amish. Those counties with modern Muslim society, would laugh at this as much as we would. We cater to terrorist plain and simple, the only muslim who would follow the Quran(sp?) to the letter are those who would follow it's messages of violence as well. Any American muslim can tell you it the core values of peace and morals that should be followed. By giving in every single time you give in to the stereotype and prolong their intergration into society. It like the racism that a white woman crosses the street every time she sees a black man coming. It is fucked up abd wrong.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:20
mix
@Alexradl

Exaclty thats what I was getting at as Sony felt a Patch was not good enough...I bet 99% of people who buy this game have internet access.
Volomon's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:21
Volomon
Typed on PS3. Kinda all fd up but you get my drift I hope.
xe-cute's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:23
xe-cute
BTW I just want to point out again that the words in the song are relevant to the level in question.


So they must of known what the English translation of the words was. They just must not of known it was passages from the Qu'ran and/or that if you combine them with music it is a sin.


Makes you wonder though how all these Muslim singers that do these performances do not get targeted by Muslims? Or why do they go against there own religion in the 1st place if it is wrong?


Also why do we have to listen to there mosc call to prayer every f*cking day? I find that offensive shoved down my ears, yet the government allows it, even defends the noise polution (But silences Christian church bells in some counties due to complaints).


Also the religion is the worst in the world and should be banned (along with all religion tbh) because it promotes peadophilia...

http://uk.youtube.com/results?search_query=muslim+underage&search_type=&aq=f
ThunderHeartXI's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:23
ThunderHeartXI
I've never been someone to stand in the light of political correctness, so this is just another thing I'm going to worked up over.

It's such a happy sounding song, how can it have lyrics about killing frenzies? Well, if they remove the song completely I won't be bothered. I personally dislike this kind of singing. Not based on the people who it come from, but I just dislike the sound.
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:26
Darren Nakamura
Geez, first religions starts every war in history, and now they delay LittleBigPlanet? This is the last straw!
Crunshii's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:27
Crunshii
Just got my Gamestop delay call :(

/sadpanda!
xe-cute's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:29
xe-cute
MM do not need to worry about penis levels anymore in LBP.


After this it will be nothing but Screw mohammad levels and all those looneys that follow him!


I may make one myself if my acute insomnia allows it.


P.S. whats the best way to record video from PS3 to PC (I do not have camera phone or camcorder, I do have plenty of leads and can get software though if I know what to do)?
Coldbrand's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:30
Coldbrand
I'd tell them to fuck off.
Syn's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:34
Syn
We gives no fucks
If I had a dump truck full of fucks
Nope, I wouldn't give none.
xe-cute's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:39
xe-cute
BTW does this mean the world wide release date is the same for EVERYWHERE now?
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:40
king3vbo
To both Sony and the people generalizing religion and Islam:
Narishma's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:41
Narishma
I personally think this is all a very clever ploy by Sony's marketing department. See, instead of just patching the game with no one noticing they recall the games they have already shipped and get everyone and their dog to talk about this "issue". Free advertising.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:43
Bob Muir
If you read what the lyrics translate to, you'll notice that they don't really fit with the game at all anyway (stuff about never escaping death), so I don't see why they should have been there in the first place.
Conan-san's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:44
Conan-san
I'm offended by this delay, how can I get everyone to shove a broom up thier arses and sweep the floor for me?
Pacopaco's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:46
Pacopaco
@king3vbo

I'm rather surprised to find myself saying this, but I agree completely.
fykdig's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:49
fykdig
holy shit balls people its only a week!
only loser here is sony this will cost them a fortune
CALkulon's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:51
CALkulon
It's only a matter of time before this takes off, I hope it doesn't. After all the nonsense with the Danish cartoons the last thing we need is something similar.

PC bullshit, slightly reassuring to see it isn't just the UK thats affected by it... but it's still bullshit.
scottoid's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:52
scottoid
oh well, more time to save
TheStripe's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:55
TheStripe
The concern here, as I hope someone has already mentioned, is not offending anyone. It's that the offended someone is going to start a riot and kill people.

Exhibit A: Danish Cartoons.

It's too bad that we have to Cowtow to cave men because the west actually cares about preserving human life. Islam is incompatible with America. The draconian restrictions on free speech that come with the Quran are utterly incompatible with western ideals of free speech. They have every right to be pissed off about this, but since this is America, they have every right to turn around and ignore it, not light torches and kill innocent people with different opinions.
Tamz's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 16:56
Tamz
@John B
The song itself contained only a few seconds of scripture from the Quran so the 'offensiveness' as you put it varies from person to person, for me the fact that it was so brief and that it wasn't insulting to Islam in any way means that I'm not too fussed about it, however other Muslims hold the belief that having parts of their Holy book in a musical format is something that shouldn't exist, music itself is somewhat of a touchy subject in Islam (some Muslims don't listen to music at all) so you can imagine how the more devout Muslims would feel having holy scriptures with a thumping backing track.
The original artist, Toumani Diabate is a Muslim himself and he obviously felt that it was OK to have short parts of the Quran in his song, that's his opinion.
I think it's important to note that Sony and Media Molecule's response was to the request of one Muslim person who e-mailed in with his concerns, although he takes it upon himself to speak for the entire Muslim community the views expressed and his requests were his own, as far as I can tell no recognised Muslim authority has called for the removal of the track nor has there been mass condemnation from the Muslim community. Sony took what they felt to be the appropriate steps, in my opinion they're taking the smart option (even if it is a bit too drastic), at least now they're covered and the game can go ahead free from any danger of the issue cropping up in the future.
And I think you should cast your mind back to the Resistance saga, the Church of England threatened legal action purely because the game featured a representation of a building considered to be holy, it's basically the same thing.
xe-cute's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 17:01
xe-cute
With this delay and the amount of copies already sold by retailers breaking the date, when the game does get released, it is sure to go straight in to the guiness book of records as the quickest and best ever selling PS3 game.

Even the system bundles with the game may be available by then and count as copies sold.


Sony is still going to get as much publicity as possible out of this just like MicroSoft did with Halo 3 in main stream media coverage.
Artimecion's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 17:04
Artimecion
personally, I think any game with sentences which include "if" "and" "or" & "but" should be banned as they appear in the Bible, Torah and the Quoran, and are thus I find them totally offensive. Please kindly remove your entire games library from the shelves, Sony.

-_-
John B's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 17:07
John B
@Tamz:

Cool. Thanks for the info. I do agree with you that they should not have jumped on the paranoia bandwagon like they did. They should have perhaps consulted with some higher authority figured and ask if they feel the line was crossed before engaging in this global disruption.

But this dislike for music is staggering. Technically, the call to prayer from the minaret is a song, hence there is music involved in the worship of Allah. (Feel free to correct me on that if I'm wrong.)

Or is this a situation where it's not so much that music is involved as much as it is the inclusion of instruments? I know that Jusef Islam (the artist formerly known as Cat Stevens) has said that he is free to create music as long as it only involves the human voice.
xe-cute's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 17:12
xe-cute
The way they treat there women you would think the men had more balls than to be offended by such none-offensiveness.


Without proper trials they cut-off 'suspected' shop lifters hands, stone gays to death, have several underage pre-pubescent wifes if they wish... and get offended by this?


What are we supposed to get offended by that they do?



BTW check out this video too entitled 'ISLAMS WAR ON FREE SPEACH' .....

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JIq7tsVvEoY
thebza's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 17:12
thebza
it's sad how we as a nation have become such huge pussies :(
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