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Oh this looks sexy,how I wish my computer wasn't complete crap,the thing can't run N64 emus without severe lag...
Oh well,my body is ready for the Wii-U,and eventually a gaming rig as well.
Oh well,my body is ready for the Wii-U,and eventually a gaming rig as well.
Magnalon I think it states specifically on the back of each Wii game instruction manual that any form of game rip or copy of Nintendo's products is illegal regardless of ownership. Not sure how exactly that falls in a court, but that's their policy, anyway.
@yarhar
Yep, which is also why you have to pay for digital copies of umds you already own when the vita hits.
Yep, which is also why you have to pay for digital copies of umds you already own when the vita hits.
@Yarhar
Most people rip ISOs, so if that's true, that's technically copying. But to my knowledge Nintendo's respectful warning cannot supercede copyright law, which allows you to make a backup of a product you legally own (at least in America; I have no knowledge of other territories).
However, you *can* simply place the disc in and make it work, with a certain rig - no copying needed.
Most people rip ISOs, so if that's true, that's technically copying. But to my knowledge Nintendo's respectful warning cannot supercede copyright law, which allows you to make a backup of a product you legally own (at least in America; I have no knowledge of other territories).
However, you *can* simply place the disc in and make it work, with a certain rig - no copying needed.
Emulation is fine as long as you haven't pirated the software. Roms and isos are a legal great area, but I honestly don't see the moral argument against backing up your own software. Unless you sell the original or something, it doesn't seem morally ambiguous at all.
@Ronin
"Yep, which is also why you have to pay for digital copies of umds you already own when the vita hits."
No - you have to do that because Sony wants to make money off the convienence fee. Most consumers are not savvy enough to pull that off.
If you know how to do it legally, you can make a backup - provided you know how to transfer it from the PSP ISO specifications to whatever the VITA may use.
"Yep, which is also why you have to pay for digital copies of umds you already own when the vita hits."
No - you have to do that because Sony wants to make money off the convienence fee. Most consumers are not savvy enough to pull that off.
If you know how to do it legally, you can make a backup - provided you know how to transfer it from the PSP ISO specifications to whatever the VITA may use.
Also, thanks for the advice. Maybe I'll buy a wireless sensor. 15 ain't so bad, and I'm more likely to play on my PC than my Wii.
@Magnalon I do own a Wii, but you don't technically need to own one to use dolphin (legally), because as I mentioned, it uses a custom-developed HLE BIOS that is not ripped from the actual hardware.
@magnalon
...what's an iso?
How I understand it is, when you pay money for a game, you own the right to use it only as it was meant to be used (in the case of a physical copy, the copy represents your right, amd can be physically traded because of this). Regardless of most laws, when you buy the game, it is like signing a contract that can have ramifications for breaking it, and manipulating the IP contained on a disk is something you aren't allowed to do. When making a copy, you are accessing the IP contained within the disc, which is borderline copyright infringement.
...what's an iso?
How I understand it is, when you pay money for a game, you own the right to use it only as it was meant to be used (in the case of a physical copy, the copy represents your right, amd can be physically traded because of this). Regardless of most laws, when you buy the game, it is like signing a contract that can have ramifications for breaking it, and manipulating the IP contained on a disk is something you aren't allowed to do. When making a copy, you are accessing the IP contained within the disc, which is borderline copyright infringement.
Once you make a copy for backup, nothing is stoping you from simply using it as a duplicate, which is why companies don't want you doing it, and why we have copyright and piracy laws in the first place.
oooo Nintendo is gonna be mad. But really if I were to want this, the only option would be the Wii console if I wanted it legally... If it is good then I would buy it for the console.
I'm impressed. All the Wii Fanboys "Graphic doesn't matter" now play their Wii Games on PC?
Well, well.
Still, promoting piracy isn't really a good thing.
Well, well.
Still, promoting piracy isn't really a good thing.
Meh.. I'll stick to my Wii. Too much skyrim love on the PC to be messing about with it and badger something up.
@allthetwitswhothinkthisispiracy
It's not get over it. If you own the system and disk and decide to play it on your PC via emulation then kudos to you. Even if you download or make your own ROM/ISO and still own the disk/console.. not piracy.. just a backed up copy of software/hardware you own (which is legal under US law). Hence why you can make a copy of windows install CD's, as long as you have the activation code you still legally own a copy.
@allthetwitswhothinkthisispiracy
It's not get over it. If you own the system and disk and decide to play it on your PC via emulation then kudos to you. Even if you download or make your own ROM/ISO and still own the disk/console.. not piracy.. just a backed up copy of software/hardware you own (which is legal under US law). Hence why you can make a copy of windows install CD's, as long as you have the activation code you still legally own a copy.
whatever, i'm playing the game since yesterday on my wii and it still looks great!
best. 45. euros. ever.
best. 45. euros. ever.
@ BrainWasherAttendent
Plays exactly the same way, with the same controllers but looks better. Yeah, that sounds fucking terrible. You can still have all your precious motion controls and I can play it with my Dualshock 3 and everyone can be happy. Horrendous indeed.
Plays exactly the same way, with the same controllers but looks better. Yeah, that sounds fucking terrible. You can still have all your precious motion controls and I can play it with my Dualshock 3 and everyone can be happy. Horrendous indeed.
Emulation has never = Piracy.
Downloading game ISOs off the internet you don't own is. I personally have played many games using images of my legit copies, simply because it's more convienient (and better looking) to play them on PC.
Downloading game ISOs off the internet you don't own is. I personally have played many games using images of my legit copies, simply because it's more convienient (and better looking) to play them on PC.
I don't understand how people can't want Wii games in HD. Things just look better in high definition.
even though my cpu is good enough to run bf3 (not that cpu demanding) it cant really run this game on dolphin with a framerate more than 16. which doesnt really work that well. I run most 2d wii games through an emulator as I prefer using a modchip over a disk anyway so I pirate the wii games I buy out of convenience. I could also buy a disk drive capable of ripping them but really I see no harm in pirating a game I own.
@komrad
That is just it, though. Once you have a wii games iso there is nothing Nintendo can do to stop you from keeping the "backup" and ditching the retail disc. Not even an individual code, as is the case with your Windows cd key example. To keep people from doing this, we have copyright laws and companies themselves warn against such actions with lawsuits if they catch you doing it.
It may be legal to back up your own file of a product that you own, but what alot of people fail to recognize is that, by license, you own the disc and the right to use its contents straight from the disc, not its contents and a disc. And if you end up caught with "backup" files of such products, you can be sued by the company that holds the ip rights, even if you can't always be charged criminally, if they think they can work a case against you.
And furthermore, even though us law may say it is ok not every judge will choose to interpret or represent it 100% faithfully. And regardless of this, Japanese law may not, and they would be the ones going after you in this case.
The bottom line is, it dosen't matter if the lot of you have a legal right to do this if there is even a 1% chance someone can take advantage of it to commit an actual crime of piracy, so companies have made contracts that you sign when you spend your money that forbid this kind of activity. These contracts, licences, and laws often work against each other, creating an uncertain grey legal area that companies have more power to win out in......
.....
Ok, I know there is a coherent thought in here somewhere, but my ranting has probably covered it up, and it would be hell to proofread and fix, so I'm gonna just post it anyway.
I'm sorry if it causes any headaches.
...oww, my head...
*_*
That is just it, though. Once you have a wii games iso there is nothing Nintendo can do to stop you from keeping the "backup" and ditching the retail disc. Not even an individual code, as is the case with your Windows cd key example. To keep people from doing this, we have copyright laws and companies themselves warn against such actions with lawsuits if they catch you doing it.
It may be legal to back up your own file of a product that you own, but what alot of people fail to recognize is that, by license, you own the disc and the right to use its contents straight from the disc, not its contents and a disc. And if you end up caught with "backup" files of such products, you can be sued by the company that holds the ip rights, even if you can't always be charged criminally, if they think they can work a case against you.
And furthermore, even though us law may say it is ok not every judge will choose to interpret or represent it 100% faithfully. And regardless of this, Japanese law may not, and they would be the ones going after you in this case.
The bottom line is, it dosen't matter if the lot of you have a legal right to do this if there is even a 1% chance someone can take advantage of it to commit an actual crime of piracy, so companies have made contracts that you sign when you spend your money that forbid this kind of activity. These contracts, licences, and laws often work against each other, creating an uncertain grey legal area that companies have more power to win out in......
.....
Ok, I know there is a coherent thought in here somewhere, but my ranting has probably covered it up, and it would be hell to proofread and fix, so I'm gonna just post it anyway.
I'm sorry if it causes any headaches.
...oww, my head...
*_*
Im playing it on wii atm. Whe finish pop pop in to emulator see how it looks. I enjoy it on wii on telly thought.
Setting up my PC to play Wii games has been on my "to do" list for a couple years. But there are only a handful I want to play, and I'm buried in PC games, so it's hard to justify the time/money to set it up.
This, however, may alter the equation...
This, however, may alter the equation...
@ronin4life
Emulators are legal.
Making digital backups is legal.
The license, or EULA, agreed upon by playing the game is a nonbinding agreement between you and the company. It holds no legal power.
These things have been defended in the court of law and supreme court.
Emulators are legal.
Making digital backups is legal.
The license, or EULA, agreed upon by playing the game is a nonbinding agreement between you and the company. It holds no legal power.
These things have been defended in the court of law and supreme court.
@El Conrado
I second his comment xD
WiiU better do 1080p to all Wii games natively for sure.
Sad that Gamecube games couldn't be included.
F-zero GX in 1080p is wonderfull too :3
I second his comment xD
WiiU better do 1080p to all Wii games natively for sure.
Sad that Gamecube games couldn't be included.
F-zero GX in 1080p is wonderfull too :3
HOLY JEBUS.
The newest Dolphin lets you transfer saves to an unmodded Wii, AND IT WORKS. My night was just made.
The newest Dolphin lets you transfer saves to an unmodded Wii, AND IT WORKS. My night was just made.
@Ronin
In regards to your comment that started out by asking what an ISO is, I believe what you were describing only applies to PC games, at least in the U.S. Retail, physical console games don't actually have EULAs like PC games do - Only the actual console operating systems and their online services do, as far as I know.
In regards to your comment that started out by asking what an ISO is, I believe what you were describing only applies to PC games, at least in the U.S. Retail, physical console games don't actually have EULAs like PC games do - Only the actual console operating systems and their online services do, as far as I know.
I really don't get it. It's the same game with the same graphics. I really don't get why people jump on the thought of HD like a sexy little piece of arm candy.
Emulation isn't illegal if you own the game...but even if it WAS illegal, it's not immoral, so I don't give a fuck.
@neuenc
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