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Left 4 Dead 2 gets Infected bots, ditches auto-spawns photo

Valve has confirmed that some handy changes are coming to Left 4 Dead 2's Versus mode, mostly giving a little boost to those of the Infected persuasion. Infected teams who find themselves lacking a few players will no longer have to go it alone, as Infected bots will now replace missing players as standard.

Another really helpful change will be the fact that auto-spawns no longer happen during finales. This is splendidly good news as the auto-spawns in Left 4 Dead 2 started getting really borked. I once spawned right in front of a Survivor, who of course shot me dead before I could even do anything. This won't be a problem in future.

The update will arrive for both the Xbox 360 and superior PC versions. Good time for all!

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Mueti's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 09:05
Mueti
Also, the Dark Carnival finale will finally be fixed. Hurray!
Stevil's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 09:10
Stevil
It's still not going to stop rage quitting and the inevitable 'server shutting down' message though. I can't believe Valve has let that whole thing get out of hand. I've only ever completed four games of versus on L4D2 and it's gotten beyond frustrating.
EmptyFleur's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 09:15
EmptyFleur
Stevil: I think it'll go a long way towards helping the problem though. I can't count the times where my team has been left standing around waiting for other people to join the opposing team. If nothing else, it'll be one less reason that games end prematurely.
Turtlehermit's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 09:18
Turtlehermit
@Stevil
You need to try and get a team together and just use the Team Matchmaking option.
Teams of peolple rarely, if ever quit.
runtheplacered's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 09:33
runtheplacered
There still needs to be some sort of incentive to not leave a game early.. which would mean statistics would need to be kept track of so that losses actually at least count for something.

If not that, then something else. You shouldn't have to play on team mode and happen to have 3 other friends that want to play in order to play L4D2.

The amount of rage quitting in this game really is awful.
Kuwanjahbee's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 09:59
Kuwanjahbee
I play with a friend of mine, and as long as people listen to me (I basically dictate, but I'm pretty tactical and can help alot) then we support each other. If they run off by themselves and get downed... well they probably won't be helped. but i've completed at least 5 versus games. Even though we go through about 6 different teammates a game.
randombullseye's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 10:05
randombullseye
Now that's huge!
Stevil's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 10:14
Stevil
@Turtle: That's the thing, I do! It wasn't so rampant in the original game, but this time around it's just awful. I know it's elitist to kick the no mic players, but seriously, those are the only times my friends and I ever get through an entire versus campaign.

Also, Team Matchmaking this time around is a joke. Even if you ask for custom games, the program will (not always but sometimes) still throw you into a game that's already started.

It's the main reason why I just haven't enjoyed L4D2 like I thought I would.
undu's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 10:15
undu
Are infected bots coming to L4D too?
Xonticus's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 10:15
Xonticus
I agree, that rage quitting is by far the series's greatest problem. There should be a penalty for rage quitting, methinks. I understand people who legitimately have to leave because the game can take a while to play out, but there is practically NO incentive for staying in a game where the rest of your teammates rages in the first round.
SnatchTease's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 10:20
SnatchTease
"a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced"
Timmeh's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 10:22
Timmeh
Hooray, people have only been asking for these things since the first game released! And yeah, something needs doing about ragequitting. I gave up playing because I never, ever got to finish a game.
Magesx's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 10:25
Magesx
Why did it take this long to fix this?
callouspenguin's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 10:42
callouspenguin
stop crying about the rage quitting crap, i dont rage quit, but there has been times where my folks will say "time to get off the xbox, NOW" and i have to leave during a game. when i do quit all i wonder is how many idiots are assuming i rage quit lol and no i dont have a mic, but still stop crying about it. i hear it on the xbox and pc version about it, in fact i believe there are more crying than quitting. your crying kills the game, let them quit, thats there character, it shouldn't affect your mentallity. look at the comments down below, half are "lets do something about rage quitting" lol are you serious? lol perhaps you shouldnt get to attched to ur games lol
Rammstein's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 10:59
Rammstein
And here I thought people were rage quitting because I was so damn good. Guess it really is that rampant. My team and I like to fudge-up the initial chapter so the other team gets an incentive to stay, then we proceed to rape the shit outta them. Then they leave after the 2nd round. Sigh.

I'm glad they're fixing the instant-spawn thing, though to be fair its less of a 'fix' since nothing was broken, it was just a poor game-mechanic. And as for the lack of infected AI, I've been in a few games where we're lucky to get an AI taking over when we go Tank but it shouldn't have to be about luck, so this is good news.

@callouspenguin: fail troll is fail. Your mommy telling you to get off the 'Box isn't the usual reason for people's quitting because no one I've gone against ever left abruptly. Its always directly after their pug team just got face-owned. Nice try though, I give your attempt a 2/5 for effort.
KingSigy's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 11:16
KingSigy
Yeah, the auto-spawns were bad, but having only two infected against four survivors was nonsense.
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 11:42
vexed alex
This is great news!
redsun's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 11:43
redsun
these are good changes a comin. and, yeah, ragequitting sucks, but that's just part of life. it sure hasn't ruined the game for me. if everyone leaves the match on the opposing team i just get into another game. so it goes. i'm way more annoyed by people whining about how everyone quits on them cuz they are so awesome at raping.
Los255's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 11:53
Los255
I think it's not right because the Infected team gets competent AI, the survivors still get the retarded AI (if down one or several people).

Also, I wonder if the bots attack on their own or when your team does? Coordination is key in that game, so I'll be interested in how they work.
runtheplacered's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 11:54
runtheplacered
@ callouspenguin,

If your parents are about to tuck you in, or whatever, then don't start a game of Left 4 Dead knowing it could take an hour or more. Why can't you think beyond the next 2 minutes of your life?

The rest of your rambling had to do with how you can't understand why somebody would want to improve left 4 dead's multiplayer. I mean, how am I not supposed to think that's one of the stupidest things I've heard in awhile? You don't want people to find ways to make games even more fun.

Maybe you're just a troll. That could be.
Flamma Man's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 12:36
Flamma Man
Yeah, they've finally fixed these problems!

...

They just need to fix The AI Survivor Bots and exploits...
Nickosha's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 12:44
Nickosha
You know, rage quitting is kind of a problem, but if you actually try to establish some cooperation without being a total asshole, then the chances of it happening go down dramatically. On the other side, if you just completely get destroyed and there is no chance of coming back, then I view it as quite acceptable to say GG and leave.

"superior PC versions"
killin' dead people with KB+M, aww yeah
s0lesurviv0r's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 13:06
s0lesurviv0r
Does it apply to tanks in any way? I would love not to spawn on fire.
Flamma Man's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 13:12
Flamma Man
No.

Then you could magically appear behind a pole the survivors are in front of and sneak attack them.

That won't be good for gameplay.
s0lesurviv0r's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 13:40
s0lesurviv0r
I don't mean being able to set up the spawn for the tank, but speed up when you gain control of it, sometimes it doesn't happen till the tank is visible and the survivors can toss a molly at it or it's dead and the message comes up saying you're taking control of the tank.
Flamma Man's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 13:51
Flamma Man
Oh yeah, that's annoying.

"Oh awesome, I'm the - MOTHER FUC-"

Yeah, that'd be a nice fix. Don't see why the stupid AI tank has control for the first 5 seconds.
Tet's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 13:53
Tet
I quit a lot of my public versus games, but not because I'm losing (I couldn't care less if I win or lose). It's because of the douchy type of players I end up stuck with, and you can look at some of the replies in here to see the types. Why would I want to listen to you bark orders, then bitch and moan when your stupid plan blows up in your face? You deserve the AI.
yutt's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 14:03
yutt
My team versus group and I regularly quit Versus games if we are vastly outmatched or the other players are douchebags or cheating.

We play for fun. We're not going to play through 2 hours of getting our faces stomped out of some retarded sense of honor.

The game needs a matchmaking system based on player skill, not to penalize people trying to enjoy their limited free time.
Los255's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 14:31
Los255
The only time I've ever ragequit is because literally no one has a mic or they are ABSOLUTE retards.
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 14:41
Aaron Mxy Yost
Infected bots in versus should have been fixed in the first game. At least they're finally getting around to it.
RoninZero's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 15:36
RoninZero
That's why if I end up playing Versus with people, it's usually with other Dtoiders, because there is a lot less chance that someone will ragequit. Seems to be interesting news, leave it to Valve to show companies how game updates and such are done.
jettpack's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 15:52
jettpack
GO VALVE
CDC Red Ninja's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 16:32
CDC Red Ninja
I have a serious question..
If there's going to be bots for the infected now,
does that mean the timer will always be maxed out at 25-30 seconds to respawn?
I forget how long it actually is.
And will the tank, being chosen at random, actually have a chance to just be AI?
pascuz46's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 16:43
pascuz46
I love L4D 1 and 2 but this should of been added in the first game when it shipped or at least a couple of months later.
Enossir's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 17:36
Enossir
know thy glory of thy pc version
Nickosha's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 18:41
Nickosha
^Indeed. I wonder how many of the complaints are coming from people playing on xbox live, because the xbox live community is... less mature, shall we say. On PC, almost everyone I've played with is at least 16.
Arch649's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 22:52
Arch649
They should've had infected bots since the beginning. I don't know why they never did that. Better late than never I guess.
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/24/2010 00:32
Mr Andy Dixon
Sometimes I'm not in the mood to play for 2 hours and strategize as a team, and I just want to have fun for 10-15 minutes. For this reason, I wish there was a separate game mode for people who don't have a mic plugged in. That way, I wouldn't get kicked every time I pressed the Quick Match button.
letshavecake's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/24/2010 02:05
letshavecake
versus,for me, is meant to be played with your 7 pals, not 7 douchebags.
Themightylebeau2009's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/24/2010 07:14
Themightylebeau2009
through trial and error, me and a few new friends on Xboxlive have got a pretty good team now. Already got the 10 wins for the Achievement, but just cant stop playing it.
waxximis's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/24/2010 11:23
waxximis
superior PC versions

hahaha, yah right
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