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Latest Wolfenstein pulled from German store shelves photo

Yep, Germany's at it again! Despite being approved for release in the oppressive Nanny-state, it seems that the German version of Wolfenstein has now been recalled, with Activision pulling the Raven-developed game from store shelves.

No reason has been given for the recall, but it's strongly believed that the use of Swastikas and related National Socialist imagery is the cause of the fuss. Because of course, it's much better for Germany to essentially deny the Holocaust than sell a videogame with a few Swastikas in it. Maybe hiding Nazi iconography will make people forget that the German government has been acting like the Third Reich more and more lately. 

Germany jumped the shark with its videogame banning years ago. This nonsense really needs to end.


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grasslunatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 16:23
grasslunatic
Germany, how can you go on making the same mistakes again and again?
ace of knaves's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 16:23
ace of knaves


Col. Landa is displeased.
Narynan's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 16:26
Narynan
Diese stummen Bumsen sollten wissen, dass Ablehnung des Materials so es nur schlechter bildet.

(Yea German classes 10 years ago)

These dumb fucks should know that denial of stuff like this only makes it worse.
Super Drybones's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 16:27
Super Drybones
MY FOOT IS NOT ON FIRE! MY FOOT IS NOT ON FIRE! MY FOOT IS NOT ON FIRE! MY FOOT IS NOT ON FIRE! MY FOOT IS NOT ON FIRE! MY FOOT IS NOT ON FIRE! MY FOOT IS NOT ON FIRE! MY FOOT IS NOT ON FIRE!
Quoth's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 16:30
Quoth
Well, you are allowed to show swastikas and imagery here. In context of culture, art or documentation.

Films are considered art. Videogames not. So swastikas in Indiana Jones are perfectly okay, swastikas in Wolfenstein not.

That's essentially the point.

It's not a problem of denying the holocaust (in fact, students get noodled to death with WW2 and the nazi regime in school, and you can get your ass arrested if you deny the holocaust *g*) but of the public recognition of videogames.

Still bullshit, of course.
IroN1c's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 16:33
IroN1c
They forgot to "localize an element". Allegedly it's this one.
KanzlerMartok's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 16:37
KanzlerMartok
You obviously can't understand this not being German, but this has nothing to do with denial.

But kudos for totally uncalled hate against Germany there.
Harris Hatsworth's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 16:40
Harris Hatsworth
They should totally replace the swastikas with smiley faces. Then it's all good.

Although, I'm inclined to give Germany the benefit of a doubt and think that maybe hey just know what a douche Bobby Kotic is and are boycotting Activision games (yeah, not bloody likely).
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 16:41
Jim Sterling
"But kudos for totally uncalled hate against Germany there."

Word, because I totally hate the German people and not the German authority, between which there is a clear difference.
Super Drybones's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 16:45
Super Drybones
@KanzlerMartok
Quoth's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 16:49
Quoth
@Jim:

In one point he is right though. If you're going to deny the holocaust, you better don't do that in germany. The reasons for the pulling are slightly different. Extremely stupid reasons, yes. But not denial.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 16:52
Jim Sterling
I know it's not actually denying the Holocaust. I was being facetious.
kefkaesque's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 16:53
kefkaesque
@KanzlerMartok

Yeah man, saying anything negative about Germany on a video game blog is totally uncalled for.

It's not like it's the country on the forefront of the whole "VIDEO GAMES ARE EVIL" thing or anything like that.
ChronosWing's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 16:54
ChronosWing
@Quoth

LEARN TO INTERPRET BRITISH SARCASM. Even if it's slightly true.
Stevil's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 16:54
Stevil
All that and they still can't ban David Hasslehoff's music...shameful.
Alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 16:54
Alex
Here is a German info about the game:
http://www.schnittberichte.com/schnittbericht.php?ID=5982811
It has been cut in everyway possible. They just oversaw this one single tiny little sign...

I hate my homeland -_- Look at the pictures, that's how ALL our games are!
frythefly's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 16:58
frythefly
Hey Jim,

the ban of the game is not an act of denial. Read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strafgesetzbuch_%C2%A7_86a The denazification was an Allied idea. There are various laws in germany and austria that prohibit use of swastikas and other Nazi symbols. By the way the Deutsche Kulturrat (the umbrella organization for all german cultural alliances like those for literature, film and architecture) demands freedom of art for videogames and included the GAME (alliance of game developers) into their ranks. But because the Deutsche Kulturrat isn't a political institution it has little to no weight in legislation. The Deutsche Kulturrat has puplished a ton of articles that declare that games are in fact art: http://www.kulturrat.de/text.php?rubrik=72 They also invited politicians to play games. At least they try.
mario actually's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 16:58
mario actually
I think it's dumb too, but I understand the motivation. For the neo-nazis the swastika is still a very powerful symbol and the use of it is completely forbidden. I think this is kind of dumb, but the knowledge, that a lot of dickbutts would be fapping over those swastikas, makes me kind of OK, with removing them.... But really: If IroN1c is right, and the reason is this little fucking note on the wall... Well, this is just fucking ridiculous...
DustyBlue's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 16:59
DustyBlue
It's freaking history. Why does the German government have to be such a puss-bag about it?
atastysammich's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 17:00
atastysammich
It's cool, Germany--I'm upset about Hitler's-head-on-a-robot not returning, too.
AdamantiumHip's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 17:00
AdamantiumHip
Kinda ironic how the whole of the EU is turning into what Hitler wanted to be in the first place, a nanny super state.
STB's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 17:01
STB
The German Version of Wolfenstein doesn't even have Nazi in it. There are new models for all the enemies and the group is renamed to "wolfes" instead of Nazis.

Seems like they forgot to remove all content asociated with Nazis which is illegal in Germany outside of documentaries, art and other educational purposes. Since videogames legally aren't considered art it makes sense they pulled it from the shelves to prevent legal mesures.

Not that I personally agree with all of it (the legal situation) - it's totally understandable for Activision to do this.
mario actually's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 17:01
mario actually
What is way worse, is that they ban the Arcade mode in COD4 or the Nazi-Zombies in COD5 they really steal content and we still have to pay the same price... multiplied by the factor our badasssly strong currency adds.
mario actually's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 17:03
mario actually
Yeah, Activision basically had to do this to prevent getting sued. But the law is fucking dumb.
Nathaniel607's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 17:03
Nathaniel607
@Alex

Was one of those thing seriously "removing boobs". That's insane. Germany is fucking insane. Get over it!
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 17:06
Jim Sterling
"For the neo-nazis the swastika is still a very powerful symbol and the use of it is completely forbidden."

You know what would make the Swastika LESS powerful? NOT having it completely forbidden. Seriously, it's not fucking rocket science. Germany only helps the neo-Nazis remain inspired and feel special by rendering sacred their most iconic symbol. It's ridiculous.

Banning certain words and images only make the bigots stronger and gives them a tool with which to offend.
KrazyKraut's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 17:09
KrazyKraut
there is only one problem that our german gov has: SWASTIKAS
nothing more. only SWASTIKAS and pics of gay adolf
Arkhon's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 17:09
Arkhon
@Alex: Wow, it looks like they removed all Nazi symbols from the game entirely. And gore. And they're still pulling the game from the shelves? That's seriously messed up.
runtheplacered's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 17:12
runtheplacered
Whatever reason Germany has for pulling Wolfenstein off of the shelves, it's a stupid one. I don't really care which way you want to paint it.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 17:15
Xzyliac
Why do Germans get so fucking pissed off when we call them out for shit? They call us out on shit all the time calling us elitist and crap. God dammit Germany. You went from holocaust to thin skinned in 40 years. Christ.

Ironically German-Americans are some of the baddest asses I know. They're feeding you guys something over there.
Alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 17:16
Alex
They removed:
Gore, Ragdoll effects (they are not allowed in german games) and everything which has to do with nazis, but as posted before: Only 1 little symbol is still in the game:

And that's why it is banned now.
KanzlerMartok's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 17:18
KanzlerMartok
"You know what would make the Swastika LESS powerful? NOT having it completely forbidden. Seriously, it's not fucking rocket science. Germany only helps the neo-Nazis remain inspired and feel special by rendering sacred their most iconic symbol. It's ridiculous."

I agree with that. But that's about the look of things. If it wouldn't be banned neo-nazis would flood the streets with Swastikas. The world public would tear Germany apart.
Alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 17:18
Alex
@Nathaniel607
They did not remove boobs, just the symbols on the women.
Sex is totally fine in Germany. You can see blank tits in TV 24/7. Children watch cartoons, switch the channel at 1 pm and they see blank boobs or a penis or whatever. That's totally fine. But when you see a little blood or something which has to do with nazis, BANNED!
STB's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 17:20
STB
@ Xzyliac:
The holocaust happend before almost everyone here on Destructoid was even born, so it's only naturally if you're German and offend by someone associating you with one of the biggest crimes in the last hundred years when some stories like this come up.

There's more to Germany than just WW II, you know?
KanzlerMartok's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 17:21
KanzlerMartok
"You know what would make the Swastika LESS powerful? NOT having it completely forbidden. Seriously, it's not fucking rocket science. Germany only helps the neo-Nazis remain inspired and feel special by rendering sacred their most iconic symbol. It's ridiculous."

I agree with that. But that's about the look of things. If it wouldn't be banned neo-nazis would flood the streets with Swastikas. The world public would tear Germany apart.
Oopsacalypse's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 17:24
Oopsacalypse
As far as I know, the recall has been Activision's decision alone. No German authorities have pressed them to do so. Of course one can argue they simply wanted to beat them to the punch.
Yet the local sensibilities towards this kind of imagery have nothing to do with denial. Quite the contrary, actually. Like Qouth said, swastikas are perfectly legal in any educational or artistic context, but pretty much considered glorification anywhere else. Although in the careless fictional environment of a game like Wolfenstein, I guess they would simply be dismissed as crude flippancy. It's really more of an overcautious sense of duty, and merely another symptom for our government's antiquated and largely ignorant approach to videogames.
Arkhon's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 17:26
Arkhon
@Alex: I certainly know that. In my last year of German class, our teacher (a native German) showed us a movie which definitely would have gotten her in trouble if the principals had known we watched it. I forget what it was called, but it was a movie about some Jewish guy who posed as a German soldier during World War II, and you could actually see the guy's penis at least half a dozen times during the movie; in fact, one of the main themes was the guy's circumcision. Our teacher didn't even blink an eye during those sequences.
CitizenErased's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 17:30
CitizenErased
Wow...German's getting pissed at Jim even though he's completely right.
Obviously he puts it in an exaggerated way to make a stronger point, but he's still right.
This is bullshit...it's censorship...and it's fascist.

How else can you see it?
Everyday Legend's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 17:30
Everyday Legend
@ Jim

"...the German government has been acting like the Third Reich more and more lately. "

Makes me wonder if you read my Reich-wing thinking line a few days ago when you posted about the German school principal.
ikiryou's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 17:34
ikiryou
This is much less disturbing than the recent revelation that Sir Jim's Wiki entry is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy. How will the truth about Jim being Hitler and devouring babies be told to the masses now?

Oh, cruel DENIAL, what hast thou wrought??
Jeckyll007's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 17:34
Jeckyll007
No German will play me in Madden Oh Nien!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYk2VKo_V2k
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 17:42
Holyetheline
They're in such deep denial.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 17:51
Xzyliac
@STB
I know! I fucking love Germany and I'm a black Jew! Easily not on their good list. I just hate when they get so sensitive and then turn around and use it as an oppurtunity to criticize.

My best friend is German and he has family who served under Hitler but I really don't give a fuck because Germany is amazing. Still not a cool as Russia but ya know, it's up there.
Zodiac Eclipse's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 17:56
Zodiac Eclipse
I'm pretty sure Activision will just correct whatever oversight they made and release the game again. There's no need to facetiously pander to the notion that Germany is denying the holocaust or giving more power to swastikas. When your sarcasm is lost on the masses you only chum the waters for bigoted commentary.

Yeah I get it, censorship is wrong, but games aren't revered as art by the masses as of yet and therefore aren't given the same freedoms that films and books enjoy. As such I really can't blame Activision for making changes to allow them to sell their game in a country or preemptively pulling the game to make corrections to avoid a shitstorm.
Nerdy Suit's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 18:08
Nerdy Suit
Germany started both WWI and WWII...maybe after they start WWIII we'll all finally dismantle the damn country.
Kalmah's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 18:43
Kalmah
Germany has been hanging out with the Turks again.
John B's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 18:44
John B
Jim! You used the phrase "jumped the shark"? How very American of you, my friend! :)
GeorgeroberT69's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 19:12
GeorgeroberT69
What about cod w@w
RaelXX's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 20:26
RaelXX
So, even if the player is working together with German and Russian citizens agaisnt Nazi, the game is still forbidden? This is f***** biased.
FidoDido's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 21:20
FidoDido
Tell me, do you know *anything* about modern Germany, Jim, or are you forever going to be stuck in this myopic Sun reader's mindset of yours?

I'll be the first to agree that Germany's censors are a little too strict on this stuff, but you can sort of begin to rationalise their (over)reaction: put simply, they don't want history to repeat itself. You, on the other hand, seem to think it's because they want to DENY their history. Nothing could be further from the truth.

I mean, you seriously think Germany as a nation indulges in Holocaust denial? I hope you're being tongue-in-cheek. Maybe you are, and I missed the joke. But if not, get a clue, you prat. Throughout all German schools, pupils are educated extensively about the Holocaust. The German government regularly stages memorial services for those killed in the Holocaust (most recently in Buchenwald), while denying the Holocaust is illegal in Germany.

"The German government has been acting like the Third Reich more and more lately."

Jesus Christ, the stupidity just hurts. But keep it up, Jimmy. You'll eventually get that Daily Mail column you crave. Right next to Littlejohn.
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