Also, great writeup on the challenges of single job playthroughs. I'm not one of those guys that does these, but I've been really wanting to try a playthrough exclusively with classes that I never use. The Geomancers, Samurai, Mediators, Mimes and so on.
Until you've done a White Mage SCC, you have no right to talk to me about honor.
A maxed, as in, level 70-80 White Mage with the best equipment, does 54-72 damage to an enemy with a staff strike before you take into account Horoscope affinity. When you fight Gafgarion for the first time, that damage is closer to 18-24 per strike with no mages who could possibly cast Holy and be anything but a meatshield, if they're lucky enough to have had the benefit of high MP gains enough to cast it in the first place.
And that fight, you not only have to deal with Gafgarion, but also a bunch of Knights. Ovelia's basically good at keeping herself alive, and Delita can account for the three knights opposite the bridge before his AI prompts him to run.
That leaves four White Mages and a Guest Agrias determined to protect Ovelia at the cost of your own units to deal with Gafgarion in whatever class and gear plus the Knights on that side of the bridge. If you can get through that battle within two or three levels of the Level 20 cap from the end of Chapter 1, as I did, and do so without crippling Gafgarion, you've got my respect.
But if you've never done a SCC, you really, really need to shut up about honor.
If I was going to remove his gear then I would also remove Wiegraf's and others'. But I don't like using exploits generally, so I don't.
That's all.
Also I'm sure you would've handled it just fine considering you managed to patiently beat the rest of the game with white mages, I'm just saying personally I never mess with what the game is intended to be to make it easier.
Though I am considering editing a save to get some decent equips for my Ramza only run through >.>
the characters i used for most the game were, ramza knight, solyeuse knight, lars black mage, and agrias holy knight, towards the end of the game i played as orlandeau sword saint, and meliadoul divine knight. i jacked orlandeau's excalibur and equipped it to ramza, its okay though cuz i eventually gave him ragnarok. i finished the game with most of my party at level 60.
Except that even with the protection spell Ovelia casts, you can't get to her fast enough to save her in a White Mage SCC during the Zirekile Falls battle. I did try once or twice, but the results were invariably the same: No chance of success.
Let me lay the exact battle out for you.
Delita moves to take the flank, more or less soloing the three Knights on the other side. Depending on whether he gets a Stop while using his Stasis Sword and who he attacks first, he'll finish that side of the fight in a few turns with either incredibly low health, or be finished having left an enemy Knight with incredibly low health. Either way, that side of the fight is not a real factor unless the AI goes a little strange and sends the third Knight across the bridge.
Agrias will either focus on the first Knight attacking Ovelia or Gafgarion, depending on a variety of factors, like whether Gafgarion starts to chip away at Agrias' health or hack off huge chunks of your White Mage's health. Thanks to factors I'll go into in a moment, Agrias dying on the end of Gafgarion's Night Sword is about the best result you can hope for, since she at least buys you some time.
Ovelia casts MBarrier and hides in the corner. This is frustrating for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is the alcove in the bridge she chooses to hide within guarantees that any healing your White Mages need to provide her are also provided to the Knight who is thwacking away at her. Even if she does chance the waterfall, the Knight can follow her faster than you can follow him... And thanks to the fact Gafgarion is likely dogging Agrias' every step or helping the other Knight slaughter your White Mages, Ovelia has to basically deal with that Knight on her own, something she can't do.
The real clusterfuck of the battle with a 'real' Gafgarion is the single Knight who moves to engage you. Thanks to the layout of the stage and the horrible mobility and speed White Mages possess, you can at best get him on two sides but the far more likely result is that your White Mages will be taking him on in a one-on-one capacity. With Gafgarion merrily placing Hunt Agrias or Slaughter Backup (either or), this is time you simply don't have.
Holy, while an option, is a crippling spell to cast. Most likely you'll have the MP to cast it, but at that point it won't do enough damage to oneshot Gafgarion unless you've got the Best affinity with him. While you could have potentially ensured this at the outset of the challenge, there are better targets for that kind of thing and the main problem is that, unless you've been level grinding, casting Holy will blow your entire load. Since one can't take him out, he'll laugh as he uses Night Sword to regain some of the HP lost and then you've got to use a second Holy, half of all your MP, to finish him off. This won't leave you with enough healing to take out the Knight, and you won't be able to cast Holy fast enough at the start of the fight to take Gafgarion out.
It's theoretically possible, but it requires three or four very precise decisions by the AI which rarely get made or massive level grinding to do it. The former basically would require Save States to pull off without spending dozens of hours trying the battle, and the latter basically defeats the point of the challenge in the first place.
You don't have to waste your precious lifetime just because you have no money to buy new games. If you think you have seen enough of one game, just go outside a bit and socialize. Maybe in one or two months you will have enough cash to buy a new one.
But why would you torture yourself with stupid and hillariously timecosnuming challenges ?
I don't get it.
Totally amazing game. It's good to see people still enjoying it and challenging themselves.
I actually just like Final Fantasy Tactics enough that I replay it a minimum of one time a year, usually in some sort of challenge because playing it normally, using all the jobs, is ridiculously easy for me now. It's mainly a thought exercise to take a game which is normally hard, make it harder, and then find a way to beat it anyway.
Though me, broke? That's a laugh. This year, I've given various community members here a couple gaming-related replica swords, some CDs, a copy of Halo: Reach Legendary Edition, a $250 gift card, and right now I'm preparing to hand out two copies of Gears of War 3: Epic Edition plus some other goodies. That is a drop in the bucket next to my own gaming spending habits.
People do actually play old games because those old games are fun, you know.
Dude, you're a beast, don't take any guff. You just do yourself injustice by getting so publically butt hurt by these trolls. Chin up dude, you know what you did was boss.
You wrote quite literaly: "It was also a way of keeping my mind off the fact that I couldn't afford any new titles at the time, and wouldn't be able to for many, many months."
This implies you being broke at the time you played it ? Or did I get something wrong ?
I never said you would be broke now, maybe my horrible english made it sound like it ^^
I also play a lot of old games for fun, the last was A Link to the Past and it was a blast. But I don't think that a run through FFT with only White Mages can be any fun.
You are one crazy sonuvabitch. Well done!

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