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I know I've gone on record against this kind of thing before, so if this actually gets momentum, it's going down.
I know I've gone on record against this kind of thing before, so if this actually gets momentum, it's going down.
@Wedge:
It's not about whether it will run. It's about the principle. We were promised a Wii game from NIGORO and we are not going to stop crying until we get one.
It's not about whether it will run. It's about the principle. We were promised a Wii game from NIGORO and we are not going to stop crying until we get one.
@Excel:
The Wii seems like a lost cause at this point. Well, WiiWare does anyway. I wouldn't risk my money on WiiWare games as who knows when Nintendo will get bored and pull the plug?
The Wii seems like a lost cause at this point. Well, WiiWare does anyway. I wouldn't risk my money on WiiWare games as who knows when Nintendo will get bored and pull the plug?
I love the Wii, but it looks like it's time to die. It was a good run.
@Jinx
Not to mention we don't even know if we can move our downloaded stuff to the Wii U yet.
@Jinx
Not to mention we don't even know if we can move our downloaded stuff to the Wii U yet.
My biggest fear with WiiWare (and Virtual Console) is that any games purchased on it won't be transferable to the Wii U.
@Excel: Aren't you the same guy who was staunchly against that sort of thing for Mega Man Legends 3? I'm assuming you're just being sarcastic here.
If it wasn't already popular from other sources it wouldn't have sold well on Wii-ware anyway.
Not sure why anyone would buy digital stuff from Nintendo EVER with no persistent user-name system. Seems like throwing money away to me. Doubly so since just about all of the popular Wii-ware games are available on PC.
Not sure why anyone would buy digital stuff from Nintendo EVER with no persistent user-name system. Seems like throwing money away to me. Doubly so since just about all of the popular Wii-ware games are available on PC.
@renegade panda
I knew that image looked familiar... ^_^;
I remember that show. Well, a little anyway.
I knew that image looked familiar... ^_^;
I remember that show. Well, a little anyway.
Excel was wrong about Xenoblade and The Last story and saying we *shouldn't* get those games. And here we are with one of them and the other coming next month.
Gonna go with Tony on this - we'll probably see a Wii U/3DS eShop digital release at some point. There's not much reason to keep adding WiiWare games when it looks like the whole system sans 3DS is going to need some serious restructuring for Wii U's launch.
3DS eShop is running fine and better than WiiWare and DSiWare ever did, that's for sure.
Gonna go with Tony on this - we'll probably see a Wii U/3DS eShop digital release at some point. There's not much reason to keep adding WiiWare games when it looks like the whole system sans 3DS is going to need some serious restructuring for Wii U's launch.
3DS eShop is running fine and better than WiiWare and DSiWare ever did, that's for sure.
@Pedro:
Losing games you bought digitally seems like a serious issue in the short term (2-3 years) with consoles. I'm sure gamertags, achievements, accounts, etc. will hold across console generations, but if a game simply isn't available on the PS4/720 it would be gone unless you kept your old system hooked up. It's weird, PC hardware may vary and seem complex... but it's still *compatible* over a very long period of time. Whereas with new console generations there is often a radical change in hardware and NO backward compatibility.
Losing games you bought digitally seems like a serious issue in the short term (2-3 years) with consoles. I'm sure gamertags, achievements, accounts, etc. will hold across console generations, but if a game simply isn't available on the PS4/720 it would be gone unless you kept your old system hooked up. It's weird, PC hardware may vary and seem complex... but it's still *compatible* over a very long period of time. Whereas with new console generations there is often a radical change in hardware and NO backward compatibility.
@Nukacola
I was able to transfer all my DSiWare games to my 3DS. Why should it be any different for a Wii to Wii U transfer?
I was able to transfer all my DSiWare games to my 3DS. Why should it be any different for a Wii to Wii U transfer?
@bbain
You also forgot the part where he was hellbent against Operation Rainfall and some prattling about how if they caved and gave the customers what they wanted it would somehow irreparably damage the industry as a whole yadda yadda yadda....
The irony does not escape me tho I wouldn't mind playing an updated Montezumas Revenge
You also forgot the part where he was hellbent against Operation Rainfall and some prattling about how if they caved and gave the customers what they wanted it would somehow irreparably damage the industry as a whole yadda yadda yadda....
The irony does not escape me tho I wouldn't mind playing an updated Montezumas Revenge
@The Silent Protagonist:
I said that we shouldn't have them because the people advocating their release abroad were motivated by selfishness and their success would set a precedent for angry gamers getting their way at the expense of the majority. This experiment is to reinforce that idea-- can the most niche of interests accomplish anything like that? If 100000 people can drive a big company to do something it doesn't want to do, a fraction of that should be able to push a very small company like Nicalis into reversing a decision based on years of inaction.
I said that we shouldn't have them because the people advocating their release abroad were motivated by selfishness and their success would set a precedent for angry gamers getting their way at the expense of the majority. This experiment is to reinforce that idea-- can the most niche of interests accomplish anything like that? If 100000 people can drive a big company to do something it doesn't want to do, a fraction of that should be able to push a very small company like Nicalis into reversing a decision based on years of inaction.
@Jinx 01
The obvious solution is for consoles to just bite the bullet and fully adopt the PC approach to things instead of ONLY latching on to the few PC vantages that allow them to bleed the maximum moolah from their customers.
I stand firmly in that consoles are DEAD not because they are going anywhere but because the whole spirit of the console has been crushed. They are for worse that which is PC now they need to start adopting some of the PCs true advantages. Instead of just trying to find a way to resell you the same game every generation and plotting Machiavellian schemes to thwart the sinister juggernaut that is second hand sales, something that I might point out that EVERY other industry has. Instead of evolving their outdated business models they are just coming up with more complex macguffins to keep the existing models on life support. That is why consoles are dead.
The obvious solution is for consoles to just bite the bullet and fully adopt the PC approach to things instead of ONLY latching on to the few PC vantages that allow them to bleed the maximum moolah from their customers.
I stand firmly in that consoles are DEAD not because they are going anywhere but because the whole spirit of the console has been crushed. They are for worse that which is PC now they need to start adopting some of the PCs true advantages. Instead of just trying to find a way to resell you the same game every generation and plotting Machiavellian schemes to thwart the sinister juggernaut that is second hand sales, something that I might point out that EVERY other industry has. Instead of evolving their outdated business models they are just coming up with more complex macguffins to keep the existing models on life support. That is why consoles are dead.
I mean its not like they had three years of development time to debug the thing...
I had sort of been waiting for the blasted thing for at least two years.
" NukaCola
My biggest fear with WiiWare (and Virtual Console) is that any games purchased on it won't be transferable to the Wii U."
I agree with you totally Nintendo has been VERY quiet about any possibility of transferring WiiWare and VC to the Wii U and that would have a huge control over the factors if I was going to buy this game or not.
I had sort of been waiting for the blasted thing for at least two years.
" NukaCola
My biggest fear with WiiWare (and Virtual Console) is that any games purchased on it won't be transferable to the Wii U."
I agree with you totally Nintendo has been VERY quiet about any possibility of transferring WiiWare and VC to the Wii U and that would have a huge control over the factors if I was going to buy this game or not.
That's disappointing to hear. Outside of the OperationRainfall games, it was the only thing on my Wii radar.
This really sucks, but from what I heard the difficulty was going to be toned down quite a bit, so I think I'd rather play the original anyways...because it's flat-out amazing.
But damn i still want this to come-out.
But damn i still want this to come-out.
Whats sad about this (other then what looks like a great game not coming out in the west) is that its not being released because of Nintendo's compliance regulations having held it back --which is a seriously old issue that Nintendo needed to kick before the Wii was even released.
What throws me off the most though is that the regulations are so different from region to region that it can come out in Japan but not any where else? I mean really? I doubt the game isn't going to meet some ratings standard in other countries, so what -honestly- is the hold up then?
@Jinx 01 @Excel-2011
But isn't it going to be like egg on someones face when the Wii-U is released with its platform and most -if not all- of the Wii-Ware games will be transferred to it.
I mean.. I know its not ideal, the game should come out now and we shouldn't have to hear that its being withheld indefinitely, but isn't it a little disturbing that no ones bothering to talk about bringing it, or any other withheld games, to the Wii-U instead?
What throws me off the most though is that the regulations are so different from region to region that it can come out in Japan but not any where else? I mean really? I doubt the game isn't going to meet some ratings standard in other countries, so what -honestly- is the hold up then?
@Jinx 01 @Excel-2011
But isn't it going to be like egg on someones face when the Wii-U is released with its platform and most -if not all- of the Wii-Ware games will be transferred to it.
I mean.. I know its not ideal, the game should come out now and we shouldn't have to hear that its being withheld indefinitely, but isn't it a little disturbing that no ones bothering to talk about bringing it, or any other withheld games, to the Wii-U instead?
See...this is why third party developers don't even bother with Nintendo. Their approval process is even more ridiculous than Apple.
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