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Kotick wants Call of Duty to be a subscription service photo

Hold on. Hold on. I know you're already foaming at the mouth. You saw Bobby Kotick's name, Call of Duty, my Satan image, and something involving paying more money and you assumed that you'd be really angry with whatever was down here. But take a second and read his quote when he was asked by the Wall Street Journal, "If you could snap your fingers, and instantly make one change in your company, what would it be, and why?"

I would have Call of Duty be an online subscription service tomorrow. When you think about what the audience’s interests are and how you could really satisfy bigger audiences with more inspired, creative opportunities, I would love to see us have an online Call of Duty world. I think our players would just have so much of a more compelling experience.

When WSJ followed up and asked if this online subscription Call of Duty was coming Kotick answered, "Hopefully." After this he went on to claim that audiences were "clamoring for it" and that it would allow Activision the opportunity to "do a lot more to really satisfy the interest of the customers."

OK, now take into account that we've heard rumblings of a Call of Duty MMO for a while now. If this is indeed what he is talking about then it's hard to actually get angry at him for expanding the franchise into another realm. If they are simply taking their multiplayer and turning it into some sort of half-assed MMO-like service as we've also heard rumblings of then start lighting the torches. Either way, the line about satisfying the interest of the customer feels like the worst form of BS.

Bobby Kotick Wants Call of Duty Online Subscription Service [Ripten]








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Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 20:04
Monodi
Good luck with that Bobby
amtalx's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 20:06
amtalx
If they provided new maps and modes on a regular basis, and it allowed you to download the next iteration for free instead of buying a copy I might support it. Otherwise, Kotick can stuff his dick in a blender.
Duck You Sucker's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 20:07
Duck You Sucker
As an Activision shareholder I say this: Suck it.
vava's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 20:15
vava
IMO they should fix the game we already fucking paid for before asking for more money. srsly, MW2 for PC has absolutely no support and you're actually at risk of having your PC hacked into by playing it. You're more likely to get a virus playing MW2 on PC than you are boning Nicole Richie.
taumpytears's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 20:19
taumpytears
@ duck you sucker

is "duck you sucker" any good? i was thinking of watching it for james coburn.
Iron Dragon's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 20:21
Iron Dragon
Bobby Kotick, yes he's still an asshole.

No matter how much he tries to humanize himself and present himself as someone who made it developing games... He just turns around and presents ideas like this to show what a fat headed suit he is.

"When you think about what the audience’s interests are and how you could really satisfy bigger audiences with more inspired, creative opportunities,"

Why doesn't he trying making something creative instead of CoD 2010? He has a budget, an established fanbase, and several developers in his hands... Yet for some reason innovation can't happen without a subscription? Give me a break. He's already proven he's intent on making the same bullshit over and over again anyway, so who is he trying to fool?

I mean I get it. He's a business man in it for the profit... But at the very least he could stop pretending to give a shit. It's just insulting by now.
Kraid's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 20:22
Kraid
@taumpytears: It's not the best Leone western, but Coburn is boss in the movie.
the Company's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 20:26
the Company
Well, they're gonna do what they're gonna do. Or at least what the consumers allow. We can all say we won't support a subscription based COD, but I don't think we're the consumers he's talking about. (Well, at least I'm not, I've never owned a COD game. Not for any quality reason, I just wasn't that interested.)
flea friend's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 20:28
flea friend
Normally, I would say that customers clamoring to get fleeced was a complete load, but I've seen a lot of surprisingly dimwitted comments on Dtoid from people wanting gamers to be charged extra fees for things like patches and preexisting features. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that there is a group of people with more money than sense telling Kotick to just starting charging more.
lewness's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 20:29
lewness
Well, that would keep me from even getting interested on the franchise.
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 20:30
Darren Nakamura
I read the whole article, and I don't see how this could be interpreted in any good way for the consumer. It is unfortunate, because everybody who bought the overpriced map packs essentially is clamoring to pay more for Call of Duty. I like the game, but I like that I bought it and can keep playing it for as long as I want without having to pay any extra.
EroThraX's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 20:30
EroThraX
I grew tired of MMOs ages ago, I wouldn't subscribe to this. I don't even understand why I used to play MMOs anymore.
Jackson Starburst's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 20:39
Jackson Starburst
This is capitalism, people will buy it so they will make it.
We can only blame the people who buy all the overpriced map packs, they've showed Activision they can charge whatever they want for anything with Call of Duty on it.
magicfett's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 20:40
magicfett
Can't wait to not pay for this!
GoodGuyA's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 20:41
GoodGuyA
Making an overly seriously FPSRPG really doesn't work. Borderlands worked because it was hilariously over-the-top and had Diablo shaping landscapes. There's nothing funny about being a soldier in one recycled premise after another. A CoD MMO would be as fun as... CoD + All the bad parts about MMOs. I love MMOs, but there needs to be something that drives somebody other than Russians and Arabs.

As a brief aside, I recently did a survey in my school to see what was everyone's current favorite game. The most often answer was CoD6. Now, as a presumption, if I did the same survey in December what do you think they'd say regardless if THIS change goes through? Probably CoD7. THIS IS HOW BRAINWASHED SOME PEOPLE ARE.
lastdual's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 20:42
lastdual
If this isn't an MMO, it would have to add up to some kind of value pitch for consumers for it to work.

Ex: $80 a year for each new yearly installment plus any map packs that might be released for it (let's say they promised a new map every month), etc.

If you were going to buy the games anyways, and get the map packs, you might save some cash by subscribing. Moreover, a strategy like this might suck in some of those people who don't normally spend money on add-ons such as map packs, particularly if it includes the promise of new updates on a fairly regular basis.

So long as such a strategy didn't take anything away from traditional buyers, it could work, and wouldn't necessarily be evil.
LaMorteSicca's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 20:48
LaMorteSicca
its like selling popsicles and charging extra for the stick, then charging again to throw the stick away and as an added bonus we will let you throw the wrapper away for free! these motherfuckers must have a committee of assholes figuring out new ways to totally assrape cod players and make them pay for everything in the game. next up is charging extra for weapon unlocks and calling it "DLC"
Explosion2's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 20:50
Explosion2
an FPS MMO?
could be interesting.
so would it be like MAG, but you have to pay a subscription for it?
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 20:53
The Silent Protagonist
Well, yeah, if its an MMO game, then subscription fees work there. Problem is you're dealing with a centralized server in a genre that requires pinpoint accuracy.

MMORPGs are a bit more forgiving and can take a small bit of lag and not depend on great accuracy because its playing with dice rolls and shit.

Those that charge monthly to play one Peer-to-peer RPGs or shooter can go to hell, though. Yeah, let me pay monthly for a game that never adds content. Sega tried that with Phantasy Star. Can't fool me twice.
Sebastian Baba's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 20:54
Sebastian Baba
Best header image this site has ever used.
X3Ent3nte's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 20:56
X3Ent3nte
even those dribbling fools that bought the map packs must have their limits, and i hope this crosses it, but i fear once again my faith in humanity will again sink lower and this will be a roaring success. acitivsion doesnt deserve its success, whoring out an over hyped stagnant 2 year developemtn cycle game that sucked money away from more deserving games. surely even kotick realise mw2 is fucking junk, he probly thinks its a work of creative genius though and that he is eternally entitled to rape his customers wallets because £40 plus 2 $15 map packs isnt enough
LaMorteSicca's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 20:56
LaMorteSicca
wtf is that? @feng
randomgoat's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 21:03
randomgoat
It's absolutely baffling that this ruler of a major company doesn't even ATTEMPT to hide his fucking ridiculous amount of greed.
X3Ent3nte's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 21:03
X3Ent3nte
this doesnt seem like a Cod mmo to me or anything resemling a new creative work, more like another cynical business model to exploit more money out of retards. well they might try to disquise it by like giving you "free" camo, skins whatever shit features the game has or better yet paying to level up
Rayray the spy's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 21:08
Rayray the spy
This makes want to kill all the kids in my school who say "DUDE DID YOU SEE THE NEW COD BRO??? ITS LIKE TOTALY BEASTLY. IM GONA GO STEAL MY PARENTS MONEY TO GET IT NOW LATER BRO"
Electrium's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 21:11
Electrium
Uh, Bobby, a lot of us already pay a subscription for this shit.

<-- Electrium is proud to have never bought a CoD game.
Gee-Man's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 21:12
Gee-Man
So Bobby Kotick is trying to steal money from dimwitted gamers. What else is new? And you know what's the sad thing? It's not just casual gamers. I'll bet you there are people on this very website who would support stupid bullshit like this because they don't know any better. I mean you had idiots willing to buy the map packs, I wouldn't be surprised if they bent over and stuck their ass in the air for Activision.
Goliathvv's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 21:13
Goliathvv
Valve launched Team Fortress 2 three years ago, and they keep adding "more compelling experience"s with no montly fee. C'mon, Modern Warfare 2 sold over 14 million copies, if you take 1 dollar from each copy and use this money to keep adding content to the game, there'd be enough for a looooong time of compelling experiences. But no, let's charge fifteen bucks for 2 old maps and 3 new ones.

This guy is really worried with our satisfaction...
ikiryou's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 21:14
ikiryou
Meanwhile, I want Bobby Kotick to ride a seatless bicycle down a steep, bumpy embankment. I'm sure this would really satisfy bigger audiences and most importantly, me.
Cyber Altair's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 21:15
Cyber Altair
@amtalx, I agree with you but even then I'm hesitant. Thing is where I live CoD is the most popular online game besides WoW and it's main audience are people who can't afford WoW so a fall in customers and players is what some regions will see.
Duck You Sucker's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 21:26
Duck You Sucker
Taumpy: I haven't seen it in a while, but I remember it being a little slow in parts. However, Coburn is a huge badass and that makes up for the slow bits.
chaoscake's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 21:27
chaoscake
I cant see this working at all!
AlphaJC's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 21:27
AlphaJC
I am never buying Call of duty game again i will cetainly not buy into this crap
McChiken's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 21:33
McChiken
I don't know, being a fellow asshole, I would love to talk to Bobby.
McChiken's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 21:33
McChiken
I don't know, being a fellow asshole, I would love to talk to Bobby.
molath's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 21:38
molath
He's like an anternaverse version of Gabe Newell. They both beleive that gaming should be considered a service, but one of them wants you to pay for it. Also, one of them wants to have a yearly installment of their company's flag ship title, wheras the other, not so much.
gmkah's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 21:42
gmkah
I'll tell you what Bobby Kockic, why don't you sell your @$$hole? I would gladly pay $100 bucks to have you bend over and let me stick my metal spiked boot up it.

And he's doing the same shit not just with CoD but all Activision-Blizzard games, including Starcraft 2.
zerokoolpsx's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 21:42
zerokoolpsx
Keep dreaming Bobby.
a0jer's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 21:43
a0jer
Mr Kotick sounds like a real stand up kinda guy, he obviously has my best interests at heart and I'm happy that someone like that is leading a company I adore. I look forward to paying a subscription fee for CoD on top of my Xbox Live membership fee and I know he will use the extra income to further my online experience by developing new (not free) DLC. Imagine what kind of amazing games we'd be seeing now it other production companies actually listened to their customers like Activision.
Hemogoblin's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 21:48
Hemogoblin
He wants HIS CoD subscription based because his other cash, WoW, rakes in a gagglefuck of money.
J03yyz's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 21:49
J03yyz
good thing i dont plan on playing any more Call of Duty in the future
Xai Xo's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 21:57
Xai Xo
Subscription fee for a shitty game?

Is this 2004?
Cortes121's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 22:01
Cortes121
@ Iron Dragon - Here here!

Kotick's right, the fan bas is clamoring for a great experience, and true a subscription based COD might bring that - if he wasn't going to just take the game as it is now and just charge you to play it.

C'mon, we know this man has no good unique ideas. This whole endeavor will end up entirely unfulfilling.
LaMorteSicca's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 22:26
LaMorteSicca
the mmo will be called CoD: legend of the assraping Bobby
carg0's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 22:28
carg0
"When you think about what the audience’s interests are and how you could really satisfy bigger audiences with more inspired, creative opportunities..."

are you kidding me with that vague bullsh*t? the only "inspired, creative opportunities" he's talking about are the one's that'll benefit Activision's shareholders, at the expense of the gamers.

he's pissed off that gamers, who already paid activision for their product, are still playing and enjoying the games (specifically modern warfare 1 & 2 for 360 & ps3) while not being continuously billed for the privilege. plain and simple. that gamers have already paid Activision for those games, is completely irrelevant.

now i understand it's his job to find a way to squeeze as much money from consumers as possible, but to hide behind it by spouting this horse-shit nonsense of "satisfy(ing) bigger audiences with more inspired, creative opportunities" is f*ing insulting.
EdgyDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 22:31
EdgyDude
This is just Kotick's next step to kill the industry, you really want to see how bad it is? read this, it's mind really eye opening (kind long read too though).
-Ghost-'s Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 22:44
-Ghost-
I wouldn't mind this business stuff half as much if they were just honest about it. Be open and honest and just say how you're only doing this for the money. How you don't really care about the consumer after you get their cash. I'd respect them a bit more if they came clean instead of pretending they're doing us a service.
PKAwesome's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 22:49
PKAwesome
It would probably work due to the jackasses who instantly bought $15 map packs. It's a shame actually as CoD fans will buy anything as long as the Call of Duty name is plastered on it.
Hexblade's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 22:49
Hexblade
"do a lot more to really satisfy the interest of the customers."

hey Kotick, I'm a customer and this does not satisfy my interests... F- YOU KOTICK, F- YOU!
ndschroede23's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2010 22:55
ndschroede23
@Ghost

"I wouldn't mind this business stuff half as much if they were just honest about it. Be open and honest and just say how you're only doing this for the money. How you don't really care about the consumer after you get their cash."

I don't know why you would think Activision - or any other business - cares about anything besides your dollars. It's just about the best ways to get your moneys. Valve releases new, free content for TF2 not because they think you are all really swell guys, but because they think it'll make more people buy TF2 and any more Valve games. There's definitely value in reputation.

Which is something Kotick and Activision don't seem to understand. Valve wants your money as much as Kotick does, but Valve is (arguably) smarter about it. All this money-grubbing is going to bite him in the ass if he doesn't churn out quality products to back it up (and possibly even if he does). Believe me, if Activision is using bad business practices, they won't pay in some vague, karmic, eternal Hell, they'll pay in dollars and cents. They'll get (earn) a bad reputation, and people won't want to buy their games.
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