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Korean gamers unhappy with Super Street Fighter IV photo

According to Korean newspaper  The Dong-a IIbo (don't laugh), the gamers of South Korea are disappointed with the first ever appearance of a South Korean World Warrior. It's not so much a problem with Juri herself, but with her stage. Apparently it doesn't look Korean enough. 

The South Korean stage in Super Street Fighter IV is said to resemble China more than South Korea, or at least some crazy mixture of both countries. The clothing of the background characters and the writing on the street signs are both Chinese (although South Korea does use Chinese writing). The stage has also been criticized for a lack of skyscrapers, which are a huge part of the South Korean landscape, and the rather outdated and obsolete representation of market vendors. 

Street Fighter hasn't exactly been known for its sensitive portrayal of foreign lands. The India stage of Street Fighter II is hilarious in its borderline offensive stereotyping, and the original China stage isn't much better. Super Street Fighter IV's South Korea may not look like South Korea, but the fact Capcom got it wrong is a series tradition if you ask me.

South Korean Criticism of Super Street Fighter IV Korean Stage [Kotaku]








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DaedHead8's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 07:04
DaedHead8
Nobody is ever happy anymore, what the fuck is wrong with people? Also, lol dongs.
Avidgam3r's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 07:04
Avidgam3r
Aurora borealis on the England stage in ssf2 turbo on xbl. That is all
InfraredChimera's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 07:14
InfraredChimera
rabble rabble rabble
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 07:15
Chris Carter
News flash: the Japanese characters look white. Chun Li looks white.

Most of these characters look white!
sauceatron's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 07:16
sauceatron
deadhead, how would you feel if your country was represented COMPLETELY wrong. in case you haven't figured out, i'm korean. also, i can read KOREAN, but not chinese. two different sets of characters. i hope you're not assuming they're the same, jim.
DaedHead8's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 07:20
DaedHead8
@saucetron

If it was in a game where every country was portrayed in such a light I doubt I'd care. Is America nothing but air fields with military men standing around watching fighting tournaments? Besides, nobody is going to play SSFIV and say "Wow, look at the way Korea is represented, I should never go there." It's just a silly thing to get upset about.
LionheartAce's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 07:21
LionheartAce
@Magnalon: News flash: Chun-Li is a Chinese character. Dhalsim looks Indian! Zangief looks Russian! Guile, Ken, Cody are and look American (white)! Rufus looks like a very agile Redneck! E. Honda looks Japanese! Blanka looks Brazilian(snort)!
sheppy's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 07:24
sheppy
@sauceatron

I'd imagine he wouldn't give two giggling shits about it considering NOT A SINGLE FUCKING COUNTRY IN THE ENTIRE FRANCHISE HAS BEEN ANYTHING BUT AN OFFENSIVE STEREOTYPE. So you're Korean, does that give you the special "now I can bitch about this" badge because finally your country has been included in the illustrious "Street Fighter is racists" club?
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 07:24
Xzyliac
Err...okay.

Am I the only one who can't read that newspapers name without an Asian accent?
hermes's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 07:29
hermes
@sauceatron: I am brazilian... almost. At least, I look more brazilian than this guy:
<img src="http://forums.gotwoot.net/gallery/files/8/5/5/0/street_fighter_blanka.jpg"></img>
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 07:32
Jim Sterling
" i hope you're not assuming they're the same, jim."

Of course not. But South Korea does use both Korean and Chinese lettering, apparently.
Thulsa Dooom's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 07:47
Thulsa Dooom
For clarity's sake, the Dong part is pronounced with a long "o." Signs aren't completely Chinese either, maybe a character or two, so that complaint is valid. But no market vendors? Ha! Where do Koreans think I buy my fruit and veggies? From the little old ladies down the side streets. Koreans, obviously, are ultra nationalistic and unless this stage was designed by a Korean, they'd bitch about it no matter what. On the other hand, Capcom is just lazy. Korea is a 2 hour flight from Tokyo to Seoul, you can't send a few guys over to take pictures and at least try to accurately depict it. Bah, I've thought about this way too much. TLDR...
Nicojay2's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 07:54
Nicojay2
Hi I'm an Englishman. Last time I saw the Aurora Borealis in England was the early nineties, although rare it's far from unheard of. Greater reason it isn't seen in Blighty is because of the weather, the grey overcast English weather.
Cammy's stage of ye olde English castles with ye olde English country side in the background is a farce, a farce I say. I speak for all Englishmen when I say a better representation would be Cammy duking it out in a grey council estate, overcast with grey clouds and mawkish under-aged drinkers screaming abuse in the background.
Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 07:56
Dan CiTi
The stage is actually pretty nice and has plenty of Korean lettering if you ask me. Accurate or not, at least your country got such a high quality stage and character.
Nicojay2's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 08:00
Nicojay2
Mawkish is rather inappropriate for under-age drinkers. It's the middle-aged drinkers that have a strange sentimentality for violence.

Also, Koreans are bothered by this but not by Juri's representation of Taekwondo?
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 08:04
Sharpless
I hear the waaaahmbulance comin' 'round the bend.
ybfelix's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 08:10
ybfelix
There's no Korean character in header image, all Chinese. I think modern Korean mostly stopped using Chinese spellings? And the landscape looks very much like a Chinese back-alley to me(a chinese, though I've never been to korea)
koehler83's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 08:12
koehler83
Apathy.
grisser's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 08:13
grisser
Ohhhh Korea. When will you EVER stop whining.
They might as well have created the waaaaaahmbulance, since they uses its service so consistently over the years of whining about EVERYTHING. Hell I wouldn't be surprise if they CLAIM that they created the wahmbulance... but I'm just being mean (no I'm really not)
ybfelix's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 08:16
ybfelix
Addition: I followed the link to Kotaku, now the screenshots there looked much more Korean to me, or at least much less-Chinese
Maurice Tan's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 08:18
Maurice Tan
South Korea <> Japan.

United States <> Venezuela.
hermes's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 08:24
hermes
@ybfelix: Just to clarify, the header image is Yuri in the backalley stage of Street Fighter IV.
CloneTrooper's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 08:37
CloneTrooper
Im sure if there was an Australian Stage, it would be full of Kangaroos with kids on their backs, Dingos with babies in their mouths and a bunch of Crocodile Dundee looking motherfuckers, set against some red desert background with a big misshapen rock in it as well...

But would we bitch and moan about, probably not...we'd just laugh and go back to stealing things and getting into drunken brawls. (Sadly the drunken brawls arent an inacurate stereotype these days...)
The Average Guy's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 08:53
The Average Guy
At least they're not all "ZOMG WE'RE BANNING THIS!!!11!1!!1"
atlasBR's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 08:59
atlasBR
Dont worry Koreans, at least your country isnt being represented by a feral green gorilla with orange hair that have eletricity powers somehow, and its stages is in the middle of the amazon florest, and its name is based in the WRONG language(blanka is based on blanco, spanish for white(since originaly blanka is a white kid who...who cares, the story is fucked up anyway) and for the last time, brazilians dont speak spanish, we speak portuguese!.......but anyway i like blanka,IMO it is a cool looking and interesting character, so im ok with it.
free touch's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 08:59
free touch
first of all, how in the hell is a mexican dressed up as a native american a stereotype?

Secondly, if they really wanted to get Korea right, they should have put the stage inside game farming facility, with the npc's passing out or dieing after playing 72 hours of starcraft or wow.
Baleur's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 09:17
Baleur
"The India stage of Street Fighter II is hilarious in its borderline offensive stereotyping, and the original China stage isn't much better."

What? Borderline offensive stereotyping? Its a cartoon game. With emphasis on cartoon and game..
If someone made a swedish Street Fighter stage with penis enlarger shops in the background and polar bears ice skating on the rooftops of a wooden cabin with blonde hair growing out of its sides, would I be offended?
Heck no.
free touch's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 09:36
free touch
Yeah, Jim just pulled that one out of his ass.

I've never felt the India stage in SF2 is stereotyping. I just saw a room full of elephants.
Noah's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 09:40
Noah
Street vendors are not outdated, I used to buy produce from them (and corn dogs!) from them all the time, way cheaper than Lotte Mart or E-Mart. There is also a whole row of tall modern buildings, as shown by the 2nd screencap from the top in the Kotaku link. Looking at the pics I thought it looked like Korea....not China or any other country.

This is one of the better representations IMO....my only complaint is that none of the guys in the background are wearing a pink shirt with slacks, and I do think Juri needs more plastic surgery around the eyes (OFF THE CHAIN)
timtheterrible's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 09:54
timtheterrible
I always felt that the Street Fighter characters and even stages were supposed to be caricatures of whatever it is that they are meant to represent. They are meant to be larger than life.
denjunki's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 10:00
denjunki
I think it's mainly Seoulites complaining that the stage looks like Busan. It kind of does. It's like New Yorkers complaining that they used Chicago for Gotham in "Dark Knight".

In any case, it's pretty much guaranteed that some Koreans will complain about anything the Japanese do, and vice versa. It's very much like a fanboy fight.
D-503's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 10:03
D-503
Aren't all Brazilians green and able to produce electricity? I mean, they live in a jungle!!!
Lugtor's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 10:09
Lugtor
Cant wait to get home and play SSFT HD now
whateverthismeanstoyou's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 10:13
whateverthismeanstoyou
It did fail to stereotype Korea properly. It should have the DMZ or Starcraft gaming arena to stereotype koreans properly. The stage was just blend Chinese urban side with some korean signs around. People also dressed like Chiense as well. Fail.
Rammstein's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 10:18
Rammstein
Hey KOREA(NS): STFU

At least your country is represented! You ungrateful gits.

I'm hispanic(born in America, family origin in El Salvador) and the closest thing I've got is a fucking Mexican Wrestler who COOKS??? Talk about racist. TRUE but racist. El Fuerte was probably born from the people at Capcom going to some restaurant and when the doors to the kitchen opened they saw all brown people so then "Oh! Mexicans love to cook!" "Mexican wrestling!" Fuck you, Capcom. Give me a proud Mexican warrior(T. Hawk) any day. I will loooove owning El Fuerte players with him.

TL;DR: Stfu Korea, it could be worse. Spoiled brats.
Rammstein's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 10:29
Rammstein
And yes, I know I am well represented with Ken and Guile! I meant the other peeps who aren't. Although after reading CloneTrooper's comment, I want Capcom to hire him. Make that stage happen!

Oh and yeah, all Indian people ride elephants. Those are their cars in India. Racist Capcom. /agrees with Jim.
CocoJambo's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 10:38
CocoJambo
I think the main problem for South Koreans is that the game is made by Japanese depicting them as Chinese. Its all the background between those nations that make it offensive.
somoza's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 10:52
somoza
So what. In spain we dont have flamenco dancers in every restaurant and we dont dress with torero (bullfighter)clothes. But hey, in Vega's stage there they are.
WhiteX's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 11:20
WhiteX
I am brazilian and we have noenergy isues since i can make my own, as my little green baby, and mu]y fanged wife. sheesh.
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 11:25
Naim Master
Isn't that the whole point? Like the brazilian beast living on a forest full of caramel people and giant snakes!
pinstonlee's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 11:56
pinstonlee
well basically all stages are innaccurate and i doubt capcom would care if its not korean enough.
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 12:06
Shin Oni
if Koreans are talking about the stage in the header picture's background, lets all LOL at South Korea as that's the same China stage from SF4.
atastysammich's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 12:31
atastysammich
How absurd. Next you're going to tell me gigantic double-wide semis don't actually lie in wait to ambush innocent people running down San Francisco's sloped streets.
RIMoonlight's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 12:36
RIMoonlight
This is the shame in a small group of people complaining about retarded shit. People assume the ENTIRE race is complaining and proceeds to insult them in a huge general group.
sauceatron's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 12:47
sauceatron
first of all, i wasn't complaining. just trying to point out the ignorance behind deadhead's statement. and deadhead is right. all the stages are pretty much eff'd. but one thing you guys gotta understand, there's a LOT OF HISTORY between china, japan, and korea, and how both those countries decided to TROUNCE on us. i'm always gunna be a little sensitive when it comes to those two. ever ask a korean if he's chinese or japanese? i fucking dare you =P

denjunki, being a big fan of both batman, korea, and chicago, new york has no reason to be upset. anyone who has ever tried to picture gotham has always thought chicago. the comic book creators too. metropolis, aka superman is where new york is at.

also denjunki is right about koreans being mad at japan with whatever they do. i actually like japan. i just jumped the gun on my bitchfest without clearly thinking. let me put it this way, i didn't sleep last night and this posted at 7. i got to it at 7:45. my bad!

4.5
Gee-Man's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 12:59
Gee-Man
Ha ha, I just find this all hilarious because EVERYONE in SF is a caricature or stereotype. Chun Li? Cliche Chinese girl. Fei Long? F*cking Bruce Lee. Balrog? Black boxer obsessed with violence. Blanka? A green feral beast. T Hawk? Just look at the guy!

My point is, any Koreans who are offended: Calm down, have a laugh, and join the club of races who have been officially stereotyped by Capcom.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 13:01
Tubatic
Hi I'm black.

I want my fight money.
TheOGB's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 13:04
TheOGB
...I guess I should be glad Capcom hasn't put Balrog's stage in the hood.
KwikPwn's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 13:05
KwikPwn
I can only assume that there are underlying tensions about how asians portray each others cultures that I, as a caucasian will never understand.

That said, I don't think Street Fighter stages are meant to be be taken as de facto representations of each respective nation.
The Fundoshis's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2009 13:11
The Fundoshis
Korea is just jealous cause me and my country men are being represented by Sagat.

Hell yeh, Thai-ger fucking knee alright.
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