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Konami's Iraq game already outraging the tabloids photo

Konami's Six Days in Fallujah was only announced yesterday with scant information, but that hasn't stopped British newspaper and sad joke book The Daily Mail from jumping all over it and spreading outrage. The Fail was all too quick to get in touch with the father of a deceased Royal Marine to try and stir up sh*t, and he naturally jumped to attention and provided all the misguided rage they needed.

"Considering the enormous loss of life in the Iraq War, glorifying it in a video game demonstrates very poor judgement and bad taste," said Reg Keys, blind to the irony of talking to a paper that regularly trivializes and sensationalizes war. "These horrific events should be confined to the annuls of history, not trivialized and rendered for thrill-seekers to play out, over and over again, for ever more.

"It's entirely possible that Muslim families will buy the game, and for them it may prove particularly harrowing. Even worse, it could end up in the hands of a fanatical young Muslim and incite him to consider some form of retaliation or retribution. He could use it to get worked up and want to really "finish the game".

"I will be calling for this game to be banned, if not worldwide then certainly in the UK."

How ironic that we go to war against a country with strict totalitarian regime, then demand that our own country bans things if we don't like them. That's not even mentioning the best part, that this moron thinks it'll encourage Muslims to blow stuff up. Meanwhile, former colonel Tim Collins OBE declares that the game is "too soon" and has accused it of being an "extremely flippant response" even though he has f*ck all idea about how the game will play out.

More OUTRAGE AAAARGH after the jump.

Tansy Hoskins of UK peace group Stop The War Coalition has this to say on the subject:

The massacre carried out by American and British forces in Fallujah in 2004 is amongst the worst of the war crimes carried out in an illegal and immoral war. It is estimated that up to 1,000 civilians died in the bombardment and house to house raids carried out by invading troops. So many people were killed in Fallujah that the town's football stadium had to be turned into a cemetery to cope with all the dead bodies.

The American led assault on Fallujah pretended there were no civilians left in the city ... over 50,000 people remained in their homes and took the brunt of the violence and chemical weapons. Months of aerial bombardments, the use of thermobaric weapons and the probable use of white phosphorus turned Fallujah into fields of rubble ...

 To make a game out of a war crime and to capitalise on the death and injury of thousands is sick... The massacre in Fallujah should be remembered with shame and horror not glamorised and glossed over for entertainment.

It's the fact that this carefully cultivated "outrage" was so fucking predictable, that's what makes me truly sad. The game was announced YESTERDAY and already people have decided to scream and cry about it, just because it's a videogame, and it's not even a surprise. I am sickened daily by the immaturity of this supposedly "civilized" society, that it cannot handle the idea of a game wanting to tackle something that would be perfectly acceptable in film, television or books. 

Let's start with The Daily Mail first. Why not call to ban that piece of shit paper, a tabloid rag that glorifies violence more than any videogame? If these people are so concerned about trivializing war, why haven't they opposed the newspapers? Because it would be unacceptable to do so, that's why. Because that wouldn't be respectful of one's right to speak out. The hypocrisy is so thick you could choke on it. 

Thanks once again for stirring up shit, Daily Fail. The sheer desperation to start trouble once again for videogames is disgustingly obvious, and shame on those people who have helped you by providing the kind of alarmist, misinformed statements that you feed off of. The game might be tasteless, it might not, we don't know yet. It's the fact that people won't even give games a chance that truly pisses me off. 

I bet nobody mentioned that real-life army veterans actually spoke with the game's developers and wanted this to be made. 

That would provide the whole story, and lord knows The Fail wouldn't want that.








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Gibbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 15:27
Gibbo
So it's fine for us to kill Nazis and the Japanese and repeat the many horrors of WWII in our games but it's not OK for us to do it in the Iraq War?
vrplumber's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 15:30
vrplumber
So a Muslim youth playing a game about the Iraq war could be incited to terrorist activity? Wow, actually being in Iraq getting shot at by American soldiers must make you a terrorist instantly.
sickNasty's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 15:33
sickNasty
What's ridiculous is that the developers worked closely with soldiers who fought in Fallujah.

In the Gamepro preview it's specifically said that these veterans asked the devs to make this game so that their story could be told.
jp007's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 15:36
jp007
If this were a MOVIE called Six Days in Fallujah we wouldn't be hearing anything of these sorts. Tansy Hoskins is an idiot. Oooooh, more like... "Pansy Hoskins".. or something.
Loogibot's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 15:37
Loogibot
Don't these people have more important things to do than complain about and boycott a videogame they know absolutely nothing about, except the name?
lastdual's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 15:38
lastdual
Reading this drivel makes me want to buy the game just to spite these people. Sadly, chances are Konami will cave and make some concessions to the thought police, kind of like Capcom injecting more white zombies into RE5.

Video games will never be respected so long as topics that are fine for other media platforms to address are off-limits to game developers. Since obviously, whatever subject is approached in a video game is clearly being "glorified".
twincannon's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 15:41
twincannon
yeah because iraq hasn't been done to death in c&c generals, bf2, that desert storm game and others.

call it MEC, call it GLA, it still represents the same fucking thing.
matthrice's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 15:44
matthrice
Don't feel too bad for Konami. I'm sure that this is precisely the response that they were expecting and that they hoped for. Talk about maximizing their ad budget...
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 15:48
Chronic Logic
Kill all the Redcoats, Nazis, Japs, Viet Congs, Soviets, and Imperial Iraqis you want, but you so much have a game set during the iraq war setting and people go apeshit. Way to go you stupid moral guardians, way to go.
Spartacus's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 15:48
Spartacus
I hope this ends up being the most compellingly anti-war game ever made. The announcement said it aimed to make the player uncomfortable, which could be brilliantly done.

I almost cannot breath through the stupidity (or all the pollen all over my clothes).
Road Kill's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 15:49
Road Kill
Is it to early to preorder?
aaronf's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 15:51
aaronf
The ironing is delicious. We fight for other people's freedom around the world while we try to take it away at home.
Drauglim's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 16:05
Drauglim
I'm not surprised, the Joystiq post was full of retards and no thought is represented until the second page of comments.
A Steamy Pickle's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 16:09
A Steamy Pickle
Well I guess it's bad having Muslims playing this and then they realize what type of a shit world they live in. But I guess all the ww2 games and Vietnam games are ok.
gatorsax2010's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 16:13
gatorsax2010
Oh my, the comments on theDaily Mail's article... Half of them paint people who play games as "computer nerds who spend all their time hunched over in their armchairs." My favorite is this quote, from Tom in Halifax: "Games are for children. Simple." There are multiple levels of idiocy in that comment. It boggles the mind.
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 16:13
Darren Nakamura
You can't have the whole story, Jim. It wouldn't sell newspapers.
Harris Hatsworth's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 16:17
Harris Hatsworth
Why do people love being wrong and misinformed? Every time a game with a potentially offensive premise is announced people get mad, it turns out to be about 1/3 as offensive as the insane people thought it would be, and then it either goes away or it sets a new standard for acceptability. I'm still waiting for a truly distasteful game to do anything remotely close to well in terms of sales. Games like Manhunt are only still on people's radar when anyone following industry news muses with their buddies: "Remember that time those people that are wrong all the time were wrong? Yeah, that was hilarious."
Infininja's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 16:23
Infininja
I think the scariest part is this:

"These horrific events should be confined to the annuls of history"

Remember that old quote "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" ?
Half left's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 16:25
Half left
Disappointed but not surprised.

Also I love "sad joke book", that's brilliant.
Corak's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 16:32
Corak
I guess its to much to ask that this could be considered an homage to those that were killed or wounded in that battle? You know a tribute to those that give their lives in service to their country. But hey I guess that doesn't get people to buy your tabloid rag so you spout shit all over it to get the mouth breathers to buy it.
MaximusPaynicus's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 16:42
MaximusPaynicus
As a former US Army MP who has served in Iraq, I can say that this game is, without a shadow of a doubt, the least important thing on my mind right now. And I would dare say that the vast majority of the men and women who have served or are currently serving in Iraq couldn't care less about a video game.

If they want to protest it, fine. They can knock themselves out -- but leave veterans the hell out of this.
byjimini's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 16:54
byjimini
I think Konami have gone too far. What next, a videogame revolving around flying planes into skyscrapers? How about being a suicide bomber, with a highscore of civilians to blow up on the London Underground?

I think they've gone too far on a sensitive issue. I'm not sticking up with the Daily mail because I simply cannot stand them, but Konami have serious bad taste. I'm all for creative freedom, but seriously, why bother with something as high profile as the Iraq war, which has had countless causalities for both sides, and is still revered as an illegal war.

I dunno, maybe I'm getting old, but even when I read the press release yesterday I was quite surprised that they were looking to release it.
BattyAdroit's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 17:08
BattyAdroit
So, none of you think it's a bit too soon, with the actual war still in progress? Really? Are we so centered on defending our precious hobby, that we lose total perspective as we accept and defend bad ideas such as this?

Not every game idea has to come to fruition.

Yes, the game makers have every right to make this game. It is a decision devoid of taste and class though.
Tet's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 17:12
Tet
"glorifying it in a video game demonstrates very poor judgement and bad taste". As opposed to, say, bringing an issue up with a dead soldier's family and splattering his face and reaction all over your "newspaper" to sell more?
Harris Hatsworth's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 17:18
Harris Hatsworth
@ BatyAdroit

A name was released. That's it. While this is an issue of gaming getting shitty press, it's also an issue of censorship. There's been movies, comics, books, etc on this subject (that have all got the same sort of flak) but as soon as a game tries it it crosses that boundary in a way that's somehow worse than the rest of the stuff that did it already?

Like Jim said on Podtoid (or maybe Podcastle) people should have the right to release tasteless games. If someone makes a baby raping game it should be put on shelves so that gamers themselves can denounce it and show people that we have enough sense to find such things abhorrent and that even when someone has the right to do it we won't support it. That's not quite the issue here since this premise has potential value but the underlying point is the same; if it's tasteless then it will fail and it will be gamers that make sure it fails.
InfraredChimera's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 17:26
InfraredChimera
If Konami were to make this game without the veterans that are helping to make this game, then I could see there would be a problem. But since their are veterans (I assume of the Iraq war) who are giving there input on the game and want there story to be heard in this medium, who are we to say no?
So where is the supposed "time frame" to say what is "too soon" for this type of medium? Noone would have a problem if it where a movie, but since the player takes control, there's a problem with it? Shit COD4 has half the campaign take place is a middle-east type of setting that looks kinda like baghdad and happens to get nuked, but noone has a problem with that. But put it in a real place and a real battle and people lose there shit.
Its just like when Jack Thompson learned of Bully, jumped to conclusions without any actual knowledge of the game.
Maurice Tan's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 17:31
Maurice Tan
If they cared so much about the loss of life (being higher than before), WHY DID THEY GO THERE!

Also yes, nonsense. Do want to play the game if it's like COD4 and I get to play the freedom fighters ;)
Diverse's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 17:43
Diverse
I think this is the first time someone said a Muslim will jihad over a video game.
Analitic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 17:53
Analitic
@aaronf

please tell me you were kidding and that you don't believe we are fighting for other people's freedom...please

Do we get to go to baghdad in the game or are we only stuck in fallujah? if so how will they address the problem of repetitive environments? and can we capture saddam?
Cowboy TTop's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 18:24
Cowboy TTop
How quickly they forget about tv shows like Generation Kill and Over There, both which show the same subject matter. They too were treading sensitive lines, but damn, did I enjoy them.

Indeed, this is more hypocritical bullshit at its best, and its reactions like this, that stop video games from maturing.

I honestly have to say, kudos to Konami. I've felt that Konami have played it too safe, with their game development for far too long, so much so, that beyond MGS, Pro EVo, Catslevania and DDR, we forget just how talented they are.

So far, I like the sound of this game and I'll check it out. If it use the MGS engine, its going to be one to watch. I guess in a way its already working for Konami. The Rockstar effect is in motion, with tabloids and muppets already protesting. All Konami need do now, is get a demo of Six Days ready for E3, kick some ass with it and blow the press crap over.

Hey, Madworld and RE5 have done their share of feather ruffling, long before launch day, and both have done wonders for Sega and Capcom, while the pitchforked people disappeared to nothing. I think this Six Days game is just what Konami needs. After all, MGS has been delivering a war story for some time now, so we should all look forward to, what Konami have lined up for Six Days.

So yes, if controversial subject matter is good enough for movies, books and tv, its good enough for games, end of. Go, Konami, and thanks for making something original, again. Make us proud.
Cowboy TTop's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 18:48
Cowboy TTop
That's right, CoD4 was one of the best selling games in the last few years, and partly set in the same kind of environment. No one, bat an eyelid.

With veterans involved, just as other previous era war games have had, Konami stand to really make an impact, and bring the subject matter to audiences in a new way. I'll look forward to hearing the stories of these good people, who put their lives on the line, so we can enjoy our freedoms (yes, games included).
aaronf's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 19:35
aaronf
@Analitic:

I was being sarcastic. Of course we *say* we are fighting for people's freedom, but in reality we only fight when other people have something we want.
capitan's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 23:06
capitan
remember counterstrike? oh right its okay for terrorists to blow up anything as many times as they want as long as you have a few other guys trying to stop them. its okay to wipe out every japanese and german person in the world as long as it takes place during WWII. its also okay to distort history as much as you want as long as its being done by Americans or Hollywood. But the moment Konami of Japan takes it up, its instantly bad.
fozzyozzy's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 23:34
fozzyozzy
I always thought one of the most taboo things in games was the balance between realistic presentation and reflecting reality. Either put it in a past era or the slightly advanced future and you're safe. We recognize those areas as possible fictions.
feliponz's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/08/2009 00:55
feliponz
I like how I tried responding to one of the comments on the daily mail (foolish, I know, but sue me, I'm drunk) but the fucking thing didn't take my comment! I was waaay under the 1000 character limit! They probably have an algorithm banning rational thought!
Curse those bastards!
...I need another beer...
andycadaver's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/08/2009 01:17
andycadaver
I'm not sure what to think about this game yet. Being heavily anti-war myself (dare I say... militantly anti-war? ha.), opposed to glorification, yet still playing shooters for interesting stories and dumb/numb amusement, all I can do is keep an eye on this. I hope it makes me feel uncomfortable. Even more so than I felt in the game scene in which Private Miller is near death in CoD 4: MW. When I play games that are strikingly realistic, I feel horrible, guilty and disgusted at the time, but in hindsight, I always realize it strengthens my resolve and firmly keeps me opposed to such things, even though there's absolutely no reason you would have to experience such things to oppose them.

@fozzyozzy: Excellent observation. Exactly my point, as well. I will enjoy this game if it makes me want to go and end the war in Iraq myself even more than I always do. Hell, maybe I'd even recommend it to some of my anarchist friends.

Reflection of reality is something that has rarely been done well, from my experience, so to see such an under-appreciated art medium accurately and flawlessly present something normally presented in the works of Noam Chomsky and Ward Churchill would be quite an accomplishment. Maybe I'm just jumping the gun, though... pun not intended. Regardless, I'm just going to have to watch this very closely and stay on the lookout for future information.
JustLikeBuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/08/2009 03:43
JustLikeBuck
Controversy = Money

The Mail is a very commercial newspaper. Many companies advertise within its pages, companies owned by the same umbrella-corporations that own many Video Game publishers. The goal is always to ban it, because as soon as politicians follow their money-masters and talk of banning, it's automatically number 1 for months.

Why else would they do it? A newspaper that doesn't understand the way publicity works? These are the same people who've placed Jade Goddi[sic] on the same level as Mother Theresa!
CloneTrooper's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/08/2009 03:53
CloneTrooper
Army of Two: You went to Iraq, got to shoot Suicide Bombers, Irregular Forces that closely resemble those you saw on the news for 5 - 6 Years.

Call of Duty 4: You went to the Middle East and Mowed down a hell of alot of Arabs as well...

Yet this game is Announced, and because it has the name Fallujah in its title everyone is firing up the protest wagons...

Guess we have to wait till 40 years after the fact to release games about it, like Battlefield: Vietnam, Shell Shock etc...I mean Vietnam has been paralleled with Iraq, but there was no Outrage when those games about another Illegal and Immoral War came out.

Bunch of Dickwads.
Rosseh's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/08/2009 05:46
Rosseh
Yet there are talks of a Jade Goody movie. A person who should be "remembered with shame and horror not glamorised and glossed over for entertainment."
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