A rumor recently appeared on a Web site that was not us (for a change) concerning the appearance of Metal Gear Solid 4 on the Xbox 360. The Internet was on it like maggots on a rabbit corpse, but Konami has now cruelly swiped away the hopes and dreams of 360 owners ... for the moment, at least.
Responding to Kotaku, Konami's Michael Shelling has emphatically stamped out the latest gossip fire with the following statement:
For the record, Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is a PlayStation 3 exclusive and there are no plans to develop an Xbox 360 version of the game.
Ouch, Konami's PR department is pulling no punches this time. What happened to teasing us with coy phrases that inject some sense of false hope? While Konami could have milked fanboy dreams forever, it seems they're getting pretty sick of answering questions on the whole thing and have essentially much just said it isn't happening ... right now.
But then, do we believe PR people? Personally, I don't know what to think anymore, except it might be time for MGS fans without a PS3 to punch their grandmothers in the face for their gold teeth, just in case they need to buy a box of Blu-rays in the near future.
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Sorry, but Ill take Rons word over that of any PR person every day of the week.
that's about as believable as me not drinking any beers tonight
Damn Jim, did ya have to tell people to punch their Granmas?
lol.
Sure. Whatever you say, Konami.
As I've said before Guns of the Patriots is a PS3 exclusive. That's not to say that they can't just, say, change the subname of the game and rerelease it with bonus features such as Snake Tails!
I reckon that Konami ring up Sony on a daily basis and go "Yo Sony, like we were thinking of putting this on the 360 too, but man I could sure go a boat". Konami gets a boat. Next day: "Yo sony, like we were thinking of putting this on the 360 again, but man I could sure go a million dollars". Konami get a million dollars. Next day: etc.
/agree with Bronx, I believe in Ron... cause look, I drink too.
Also, there is NO WAY Konami will not be cashing in on this game by releasing it on the 360 (I expect a PC port too the way things are now).
Did everyone forget about the million copies that need to sell on day one? Somehow I seriously doubt Konami really wants to lose money on MSG4...
Also, you PS3 fanboys bitching about the possibility of a 360 port, consider you may never have another MGS if this game doesn't get ported and make money!
Come on, can we please spin this? Let me try:
Shelling says that METAL GEAR SOLID 4: GUNS OF THE PATRIOTS is a PS3 exclusive. He doesn't mention METAL GEAR SOLID 4: GUNS OF THE PATRIOTSISTANCE, which will be the Xbox 360 version that is release on two discs, with additional content in 2009.
@Nick: Probably three discs, considering the extra content thatll be included in that version, and the size limitations of dual-layer DVD-ROMs. OH SNAP!!!
*touches nose and points at Tazar*
Yup.
So, what's the reason for the delays then?
CEASE AND DESIST!
OMG BUT IT WAS IN JOYSTICK GUYS!!!
Ok, at this point both Kojima Productions and Konami have said PS3:YES, 360:NO. I just want this rumor gone until they say something different. Weren't the denials of Bioshock on PS3 equally succinct? Really, I don't care if it becomes multi-platform in some incarnation at some future time, but right now, here, for reals, everyone that has any sort say in it has said PS3 only. If it changes then it will have changed, but presently folks should chill and live with the 360's non-mgs4-having-ness. Is it so much to ask?
Because, everyone knows that sony will win in the end. It has better more reliable hardware.
all i can say is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1-eniEcEuE
I'm still going to side with the rumor. Between Ron's word and the reaction to it, as well as the recent comments from Konami, not to mention good ol' common sense, it's just too likely to happen.
Is this still an issue? The port is inevitable as far as I see. That still doesn't change the fact I'll buy a PS3 when it comes down to a comfortable price. My gaming PC will suit me fine until then.
You never know. Konami could go out and surprise everyone.
durr hurr how much did sony pay them
I'll side with the rumors, but only in the distant future. This will be PS3-exclusive for at least a year, if not 1.5.
I'm sticking with Ron's words. It's bound to happen.
@DiseaseFactory
The fanboys always come out for this MGS argument.
IT wont happen.
@ DiseaseFactory
It WILL happen and you're a dumb fuck if you believe otherwise. But then again, you're right. It would be as believable as seeing Metal Gear Solid on the GameCube or Resident Evil 4 on the Playstation 2..... Oh wait. ;P
Like I said before denial means next to nothing even coming from the publishers/developers nowadays.
Resident Evil 4 was supposed to be exclusive to the GameCube, and when asked about it Resident Evil creator Shinji Mikami said he would "cut off his own head" if Resident Evil 4 came to the Playstation 2.
We all know how that turned out. Even the creator of the series saying he would practically kill himself if it happened wasn't enough to keep if from happening.
Hell, were you not paying attention to the Metal Gear series at all lately? Metal Gear was supposed to be a Sony/Playstation exclusive or at least many people felt that way and people thought hell would freeze over before that changed. Well, GameCube got it's own remake of Metal Gear Solid and XBox got Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty. If it weren't so close to the XBox's death I have very little doubts about seeing Metal Gear Solid 3 ported over on it.
I trust Ron more than any PR voice box.
That's really odd, because I heard from a certain someone that someone on a website called 'Constructroid' has already played a version of "Mega Cheer Salad 4" on the 360.
Great idea, guys! Lets trust some web journalist's sensationalist claims over the official statements of the guys in charge of making the game!
I really hope you guys are being sarcastic, because the lack of logic in these comments is astounding.
@Trevor McGee
Exactly!
Of course Konami isn't gonna admit that they are porting the game to the 360...Sony is still signing over big checks right now. When the exclusivity period is over they will port.
This is so gonna be the big realses that never happend, or that when it does come out its gonna be so shit and we all buy wii sports 2....
Yeah, yeah Konami. You keep telling yourself that. Later we'll get it on Wonderswan, DS and the Master System...
tazarthayoot has the right idea, they've done it before with Sons of Liberty and Twin Snakes and both of those were released on less then successful platforms. It would make no sense whatsoever to skip the 360, especially when it has the larger userbase and evidently fans are rabidly anticipating MGS on their console despite all these Konami rumour smashes.
Stranger things have happened and imho I wouldn't be surprised if it did.
Ron said it, so its true
Wow I didn'tknow Dtoid had this many rapists that frequent the site. It just seems that a lot of you don't understand that "NO" means no.
this game will be shit anyway, I'm glad its not coming to my lovely 360. Unless of course it does get ported in which case this game will be brilliant.
no-one ever got any ass with that " no means no attitude".
Even if the game was ported to the 360, it wouldn't be done until mid to late 2009 and would be 'old news' by then.
All you people clamoring about it selling better on the 360 are missing the whole point of providing exclusive brands that will force people to buy PS3s... if Sony didn't have this, they'd be dead in the water in 2008. Of course they're throwing money at Konami like crazy, but why wouldn't they since they need titles like this to catch up to the 360 console sales? And, with this following off the DMC4 packaged PS3 boxes, there is the possibilty of a good year for getting more PS3s in people's homes.
Perhaps you don't give a shit and you just don't want to have to get a PS3 or you sleep with your 360 tucked in your arms, but I'd rather there be some good ole competition between the two consoles rather than just one leading console and another that sometimes gets ports made for it.
This needs to stop. For some reson you Xbots won't take Konami's word that it's not coming to 360. Should everyone then not tkae 2K Boston's word that Bioshock isn't coming to PS3? No means NO. If no meant yes, which to you guys, it seems that way, you'd all be in jail for rape.
Secondly, why keep saying "Sony is paying fat checks to keep them quiet"? If Sony was paying Konami, then it would DEFINATELY BE PS3 EXCLUSIVE!!!! Unless of course all the 3rd party exclusives that M$ paid for are coming to the PS3, since you guys think paying will not guarantee exclusivity.
Lastly, don't trash the game because it's not coming to 360. "This game is crap because it's not on my system of choice" is just an ignorant statement.
Dual Layer Blu-Ray is 50GB. Kojima has already said it's most likely going to be a dual layer Blu-Ray disc so do the math. How many DVD's does it take to equal 50GB? I have no doubt that Konami would like to use the expensively created MGS4 content on the 360 but they are either going to have to cut it up severely or go another direction completely to get it on the 360.
@ loki_d20
ZING!!! Common sense should shut them up
@KingMe
Just to clear up your Bioshock refernce = shit because a) it made money and b)the 360 owns the 'current gen' market so it doesnt NEED to be ported to break even.
This is not true for Meal Gear, this is why the rumours wont go away its just common business sense.
Why all the rapist jibes towards the commenters too, have you got something to confess?
I hope MGS is a PS3 exclusive it needs it, however i get the feeling that it will come out sooner or later...like i said it make business sense....
@TorpedoTed: You know, everyone says it's just common business sense without realizing that Sony doing everything to keep the game exclusive is also common business sense. Why would one be more true than the other?
I agree with the it will come out in 2009 with a different subtitle crowd. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the first hd-dvd only game for the 360 ultimate.
It'll still sell alot of ps3's to people on the fence, the hardcore 360 fans will get to play it eventually, and konami makes a litte more money. Everyone wins, and if I recall correctly Ron said it would be out on the 360 eventually, not anytime near the ps3's date.
@ Torpedo Ted
May I ask, what was the install base of the 360 when Bioshock came out? About the same as the PS3 should be, should sales continue, when MGS4 comes out? That being the case, why wouldn't it be able to break even without being ported?
Do you still believe the PS3 isn't selling? Would you like to know that since the price cut, PS3 has outsold the 360? (It's January, so don't say it's just a quick surge) Do you still believe the PS3 has no games? Heavenly Sword, Ratchet, Uncharted, UT3, Warhawk, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, etc all say differently. Not to mention AC and COD4.
And I only made the rapist comment because you think no means yes, this is what you believe, not myself
@ loki_d20
Once again, you are correct
@ loki and king me
MGS4 is a massive budget game, it blows Bioshock out of the water with the amount its cost, thats why, regardless of the install base. If the game has cost 4 times more to develop hen you need 4 times more users to buy it....see?
Also Sony isnt exactly flush(business sense comment) they cant just hand companies 50 Million like MS dif for GTA4 download stuff.
No wonder you guys cant understand simple business and sales numbers if you think people who say this game will come out on xbox are rapists. Amazing sense guys way to go ;Ž)
Action Bastard: Yeah, denying a large amount of people the chance to play a game and cutting a title's audience in half is something to celebrate.
More audience = good. Less audience = bad.
People who feel good when a game loses potential customers don't really respect the game industry at all.
To point again what everyone knows:
Metal Gear Solid was a PS1 exclusive.
Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes was ported to the Game cube.
Metal Gear 2: i donīt know whatīs the complete name was a PS2 exlusive.
Metal Gear 2: Subsistance was ported later to the XBOX.
Metal Gear Solid 3: We are playing with the father was a PS2 exlcusive, and stayed like it until now.
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of old men is gonna be a PS3 exlusive.
We donīt know if there is gonna be Metal Gear 4: Wheelchairs with guns for the 360, but who cares? When it comes out, the PS3 is gonna be cheap and you will be abple to find a used Mteal Gear 4 everywhere.
nothing left to say but time to buy a ps3 you fools. Stop being cheap sonsofbitches!
What I find absolutely hilarious is that some select people are bashing the hell out of PS3 owners labelling them as "Stupid sony fanboys who only want to keep MGS4 on their system"... Yet later in that same message they will also mention about wanting MGS4... Complain about it because it's on another console because you want it on yours... And then you call someone a fanboy for owning the console it's being released on?... The amount of ignorance in people as such is extremely high. It's one thing to say that and not care about the game.. It's another to want the game then call people fanboys because they own the console its releasing on.
As far as my own feeling on all of this, I do feel it will eventually be ported over. I personally don't understand the "needs to sell 1 million on the first day" thing... Why must it be on the first day? That's what I don't understand. I read the article and it just doesn't say..
@ torpedoted, If you think Sony can't throw money out like MS you are mistaken. Keep in mind they are the largest Electronic manufacturer in the world sir. MGS 4 was built for the ps3 on the ps3 architecture, for quite some time now. MS asked for this themselves, they didnt include a HDD with every system, they didnt incorporate a proprietary disc that held more memory, the processing power on the 360 is inferior to the ps3. You think konami doesnt know they could lose money by not putting it on the 360? Hell, they lose money not putting it on the wii. You think Square enix doesnt know that? You think any company that makes ps3 exclusive games doesnt know that they could potentially lose money not putting it on a competing console? Maybe sir they just prefer what the ps3 has to offer their work, did you ever think of that?
This is how you know the MGS series is one the best of all time, 360 users are very upset at this news. They are just praying that it is not true.
@TorpedoTed: Your ignorance is showing through your posts. GTA IV content is but a drop of water int he bucket in comparison to MGS4. And regardless of how much it cost to make MGS4, it is heavily funded by Sony and will stay exclusive for as long as a year. And WTF is up with that rapist statement?
@Jim: Don't be dense. Your logic is too simplistic and can be said for all exclusives.
You guys are just being selfish, ignorant, and not really understanding the importance of these business exclusives. It's not about selling to the smaller market, it's about changing how much smaller that market is. Get over it.
I would probably agree that Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is not coming out for the Xbox 360.
As for Metal Gear Solid 4: Subsistence/Substance/Sustenance/SuperMarioBros however...? That has yet to be determined.
This has already been noted in comments above this one.
Would Mass Effect and Bioshock coming to the PS3 be a good thing? Of course it would. Would MGS4 coming to 360 be a good thing? Of course it would. Why is this even an issue? That's all fine and dandy, but it has nothing to do with the actual state of things. The difference, however, between MGS4 and the other examples that are being bandied about like Mass Effect or Bioshock or whatever is that, for MGS4, the precedent for this to happen is there. Of course, the precedent for it not to happen is there also (see MGS3).
For me it's very simple, cut and dried, one way or another. If it never comes to 360 in any form, I'll buy a PS3 for it. Period. If it comes to 360 in some form or another and is announced in a reasonable time frame after GotP for PS3, then I'll wait and buy it for 360 and get a PS3 for something else, assuming the PS3 ever gets any games that interest me at all that aren't already available for 360.
It's nice to see that the CONSOLE WARZ have been alive and well while I was without computer access for the past two weeks or so. (/sarcasm)
What is worse is that this game creates so much conflict.
For god sake itīs Metal Gear, and their third deliver was so boring that i had to stop playing it.
The super hero has reuma one eye and looks like he is gonna surf on the middle of a fucking desert.
They arenīt adding something new to the game, only a robot controlled by a sixxaxis controller (you are not getting that 360).
The trailers are long and boring, and the only thing that catches my eye is the fact that Snake is going to blow his brains with a gun.
Metal Gear fans are as annoying as Halo fans.
/rant off
I didn't read it yet, but I'm sure ^this comment section^ is epic.
I'll just be glad when the next generation of systems come out and THIRD PARTY exclusives will be something we laugh about as long dead. First party games can stay on their respective systems, but a third party developer only producing games for one system, and the third place one at that, is just suicide. We'll see if Kojima's next game will be only on one system. The likelihood of that is the same as Workman cleaning up and converting to a priest.
Damn it, i own a 360 and i know that MGS4 is never going to come to the 360.
Teta MGS3 is one of the best games ever made and you are stupid. >:O
@loki_d20: Your ignorance is showing if you thing MGS4 is bigger than exclusive content for GTA:IV. Tell me, which game sells more? Exactly
On topic, I'm taking a wait and see approach. Either way it ends up won't suprise me in the least, whether that means PS3 exclusive or port. Oh, and what idiot mentioned that the PS3 has been outselling the 360? Did I miss that or did something crazy happen worldwide that made Sony catch up for the ass-raping that's been going on in NPD numbers?
I wouldn't expect to for Konami to announce any 360 MGS4 until after the PS3 version ships. Probably to see how well it sells and if it doesn't sell as well as they hoped then there may be an official announcement from Konami for a 360 version. In any case 360 owners are getting Splinter Cell Conviction so that should satisfy their craving for a good stealth game.
Wow, flame on my friends. I'd have to say as a PS3 owner it would please me to see MGS4 hold this one out as a permanent exclusive.
I'm tired of hypocritical, self-centered 360 fans who are greedy for PS3 exclusive titles AND clutch to 360 exclusives greedily like little toddlers. Growup. There may not be as many ps3 owners, but there are still at least 7 million worldwide at this point, nothing to cough at. Stop whining and practically demanding PS3 exclusives while you selfishly refuse to acknowledge the PS3 fanbase.
Jim: I think this is waht Actionbastard is talking about. yes if it goes to the 360 more people will play it, but what about 360 to PS3, in that case more people would play it as well. But almost nobody defends the wish for a 360 to PS3 port. All around it's just simple fanboyism and selfishness.
Y'know why must poeple continue to spread these rumors for little reason. The PS3 is starting to gain in popularity due to price cuts and releasing more affordable SKUs, and there are plenty of exclusives on both systems that have managed to do just fine as they are. And hell, if Sony really is throwing money to keep it exclusive then that would probably help keep it exclusive (why else waste money on something they're not keeping)... why can't