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Well I guess Kojima won't get his wish of working on something other than the mgs series anytime soon.
Mr.Kojima you are one of my hero's I love your games Metal gear is my favorite franchises but We also need a new Zone of Enders.
As long as the art director does not put his fucking face on Raiden and turn him into a bitch from twilight, this could be cool. These guys have actually made good games before.
I already Know I'm buying the game there is nothing wrong with spin offs but from what I saw It needs more gore you can't cut a dude into pieces with out guts everywhere.
All Kojima needs to do is declare that revengance(?) is non canon and I think no one would have a complain in the world, hell I wouldn't. Instead all my negativity about the game would just turn into optimism considering it wouldn't be canon, giving me a "they could do whatever they want with it" feeling. It's odd that one simple statement would make me feel that way, but hey, Kojima is literally the god of the MGS universe so can decided what flies or not.
As for a "real" entry into the series, eh I love the series but I wish Kojima would use his talent for other projects, whether it be a new zone of the ender's or a whole new IP (preferably the latter).
As for a "real" entry into the series, eh I love the series but I wish Kojima would use his talent for other projects, whether it be a new zone of the ender's or a whole new IP (preferably the latter).
@Wrath and Pride
Yes, how dare Rising taint the precious Diarrhea gags, Magic Ravens, Ghost Bosses, 4th Wall Breaking Psychics, Breakdancing with Geckos and Battleship Stopping Ninja Canon with... Sword Fights!
Yes, how dare Rising taint the precious Diarrhea gags, Magic Ravens, Ghost Bosses, 4th Wall Breaking Psychics, Breakdancing with Geckos and Battleship Stopping Ninja Canon with... Sword Fights!
@The Cast
I believe that would be "Metal Gear"
Though it's not unlike video game creators to cram a game into a time frame at which no story needs to be told.
I believe that would be "Metal Gear"
Though it's not unlike video game creators to cram a game into a time frame at which no story needs to be told.
You see that. SOLID. I'm going to assume that if it's stealth it's going to have SOLID in the title. If it doesn't it won't.
*sigh*
It all has to do with the character you control, while Snake is far from normal, he was almost real and grounded in his own right. Look at the trailer for Rising and you see Raiden handling a Rex as it was nothing. It's not so much me being a purest, but just the fact that it's not metal gear.
Originally they stated that the game was going to be action oriented with a bit of stealth, guess what my thoughts on that was, I was excited, a badass stalking around with a deadly blow, it really got me excited, and the E3 trailer looked pretty dam awesome, this time however everything looks too platinumish, and maybe that's my problem with it all, it's that there using the name for a platinum game.
I actually embrace the over the top themes of metal gear, and I actually love the series more than I should because of it, but this time I'm left with a sour feeling, in other words they simply went to far. Like I said, make it non canon and I will fully welcome the game.
It all has to do with the character you control, while Snake is far from normal, he was almost real and grounded in his own right. Look at the trailer for Rising and you see Raiden handling a Rex as it was nothing. It's not so much me being a purest, but just the fact that it's not metal gear.
Originally they stated that the game was going to be action oriented with a bit of stealth, guess what my thoughts on that was, I was excited, a badass stalking around with a deadly blow, it really got me excited, and the E3 trailer looked pretty dam awesome, this time however everything looks too platinumish, and maybe that's my problem with it all, it's that there using the name for a platinum game.
I actually embrace the over the top themes of metal gear, and I actually love the series more than I should because of it, but this time I'm left with a sour feeling, in other words they simply went to far. Like I said, make it non canon and I will fully welcome the game.
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Fucking hell. I still don't get what people are getting shitty over about Revengeance.
Anybody who was expecting Cyborg Raiden to sneak around is an idiot. What's wrong with something different?
Anybody who was expecting Cyborg Raiden to sneak around is an idiot. What's wrong with something different?
@DstryrDestroyer
The problem is the setting. It made sense that you'd go batshit crazy with Raiden if it was set when he just turned into a cyborg. MGS4 wrapped everything up for EVERYONE, and now the story of Revengence has been moved to AFTER that game, which makes no sense at all.
I don't think anyone's been complaining about the gameplay (besides the dumbed-down cutting mechanic). It's all about the story.
The problem is the setting. It made sense that you'd go batshit crazy with Raiden if it was set when he just turned into a cyborg. MGS4 wrapped everything up for EVERYONE, and now the story of Revengence has been moved to AFTER that game, which makes no sense at all.
I don't think anyone's been complaining about the gameplay (besides the dumbed-down cutting mechanic). It's all about the story.
LOL, but there far from metal gears. Anyway, c'mon watch the trailer, it made me who embraces the over the top style of the series blush. I also didn't mention this, but I'm the kind of guy who criticizes games he like's more than those obviously flawed (I have a whole list for human revolution), taking that into account, I have a shit ton of things I dislike about metal gear solid 2 and 4 (both of which are my least liked of the series), and that little dance is one of them, yet I like those two both then a lot of other games.
Overall I stand by what I say, things went to far, gameplay wise and when it came to Raiden flipping over a Rex, stunts wise.
Overall I stand by what I say, things went to far, gameplay wise and when it came to Raiden flipping over a Rex, stunts wise.
Last post I swear.
I also agree with pedrovay, things while not perfect, were settled, now we get this. If anything they should have stayed with the original plot line and stuck to it being set before 4. Anyway there's one to many factors that make me not pleased as to why this is a canon related entry, specifically it taking place after 4. At this point, after unleashing my thoughts on the matter, I just hope for a good game.
I also agree with pedrovay, things while not perfect, were settled, now we get this. If anything they should have stayed with the original plot line and stuck to it being set before 4. Anyway there's one to many factors that make me not pleased as to why this is a canon related entry, specifically it taking place after 4. At this point, after unleashing my thoughts on the matter, I just hope for a good game.
To the bellyaching, whiny "fans":
You get all uptight about Raiden tossing a Metal Gear Ray into the air but are willing to overlook:
- Raiden took down an army or Rays with stinger missiles
- Raiden cutting Gekkos down to sise
- Raiden surviving multiple stabs, even impaling himself
- Fending off a small army with no arms and a sword in his teeth.
Obviously, by tossing a Ray into the air we have truly gone beyond the "realism" Metal gear Soild strived so hard to maintain. You know, what with the psychic bosses, a guy that can turn a swarm of bees into anything, pyromanic astronauts and a revolver-toting Russian who becomes another villain entirely by grafting on a dead man's arm.
Nope, throwing around mechs is just going too far.
What will you complain about next, giving a demon hunter black hair and making a hedgehog's eyes green?
Oh wait, you have.
You get all uptight about Raiden tossing a Metal Gear Ray into the air but are willing to overlook:
- Raiden took down an army or Rays with stinger missiles
- Raiden cutting Gekkos down to sise
- Raiden surviving multiple stabs, even impaling himself
- Fending off a small army with no arms and a sword in his teeth.
Obviously, by tossing a Ray into the air we have truly gone beyond the "realism" Metal gear Soild strived so hard to maintain. You know, what with the psychic bosses, a guy that can turn a swarm of bees into anything, pyromanic astronauts and a revolver-toting Russian who becomes another villain entirely by grafting on a dead man's arm.
Nope, throwing around mechs is just going too far.
What will you complain about next, giving a demon hunter black hair and making a hedgehog's eyes green?
Oh wait, you have.
@The Silent Protagonist
You really stretched yourself to bring up some comparisons. None of what you said compares to tossing a ray around. Yes there were certain anime prone elements to raiden, but this takes ghost in the shell type anime and turns it up to 11 with Dragon ball z type anime.
You really stretched yourself to bring up some comparisons. None of what you said compares to tossing a ray around. Yes there were certain anime prone elements to raiden, but this takes ghost in the shell type anime and turns it up to 11 with Dragon ball z type anime.
Maybe it's just me but the MGR: Revengeance trailer kinda had a little bit of a Devil May Cry vibe as far as the action was concerned -- and I'm really diggin' that. As far as a more authentic MGS title, I look forward to seeing what Kojima can do with the franchise, he hasn't disappointed me yet.
Considering Gray Fox was able to stop Rex from stomping on him while he was beaten and bloodied, I don't actually find Raiden tossing the much nimbler Ray model in the air to be that outrageous. Taken in the context of the series, that scene doesn't seem too far out of place.
You're all just mad Kojima didn't think of it.
You're all just mad Kojima didn't think of it.
@mxdirector - I'm sorry, I had to eat some glowing mushrooms to recharge my batteries.
You were saying?
You were saying?
@Wrath and Pride
Responding to your first post here, I don't want Rising to be non-canon, that personally gives me no reason to buy it. I want to see where the story heads next, not get a what if game. This is why I never fell for games like Ac!d or even Ghost Babel (even though it was a decent game).
The removal of "Solid" and "Tactical Espionage Action" (even though there were 2 canon games that did not use that) is enough for me to completely forgive this for not being stealthy.
Now that last post:
They clearly state in the trailer that the new cyborgs have unbelievable strength, I don't think this is too big of a departure from when he played around with the GEKKO's in MGS4, mix that with this new, story explained, strength and it's all fine.
I understand your disappointment however, I just wish people would wait for at least some big details before jumping on it. The trailer was over-the-top, yes, but partly the reason for this is probably because it appeared on the VGA's where everything needs to be loud and obnoxious. Kojima is still handling the story and dialogue from what I understand so that should rename intact.
Responding to your first post here, I don't want Rising to be non-canon, that personally gives me no reason to buy it. I want to see where the story heads next, not get a what if game. This is why I never fell for games like Ac!d or even Ghost Babel (even though it was a decent game).
The removal of "Solid" and "Tactical Espionage Action" (even though there were 2 canon games that did not use that) is enough for me to completely forgive this for not being stealthy.
Now that last post:
They clearly state in the trailer that the new cyborgs have unbelievable strength, I don't think this is too big of a departure from when he played around with the GEKKO's in MGS4, mix that with this new, story explained, strength and it's all fine.
I understand your disappointment however, I just wish people would wait for at least some big details before jumping on it. The trailer was over-the-top, yes, but partly the reason for this is probably because it appeared on the VGA's where everything needs to be loud and obnoxious. Kojima is still handling the story and dialogue from what I understand so that should rename intact.
Meh i'll stick with the HD collection thanks, for a true MGS experience.
If i want to play a game like Bayonetta, i'll play Bayonetta, or the DMC HD collection, or Castlevania LOS...
If i want to play a game like Bayonetta, i'll play Bayonetta, or the DMC HD collection, or Castlevania LOS...
First of all, we dont know the entire story of MGR, so there could be a reason why Raiden is throwing a RAY. Second of all, MGS4 wasnt a happy little ending for everyone, it revealed big info on Snake but in no way did it say Drebin, Raiden, and everyone else is done working just because of a wedding. Lastly, dont take a videogame so fucking serious, you look like a fool complaining about a fictional story with mechs, vampires, ridiculous tech, and characters with pyro and psychokenises.
"Did you see the new episode yesterday morning? Bob the Builder made friends with a car....we all know cars dont work in construction...i hope this is non-canon because I'll stop watching this shit otherwise." -Complete Moron
"Did you see the new episode yesterday morning? Bob the Builder made friends with a car....we all know cars dont work in construction...i hope this is non-canon because I'll stop watching this shit otherwise." -Complete Moron
I think people are focusing too much on the vibe of a trailer vs. the what we know about the game. Like Sir Tobbii said, it's over the top most likely because it was a premiere at the awards show and the fact that we haven't seen anything from the game for quite some time.
It's already been said that KP are doing the story, so I'd think that the game is still going to carry the vibe of the rest of the series as far as story goes.
Either way, I'm not really worried about it. We have the original people doing the story and we have Platinum games who are pretty savvy with action games. Of course that's just a matter of opinion, but some of the things people are criticizing the game for.. as always are things we don't know or people complaining about how over the top it looks when the series it self has it's own over the top moments.
It's already been said that KP are doing the story, so I'd think that the game is still going to carry the vibe of the rest of the series as far as story goes.
Either way, I'm not really worried about it. We have the original people doing the story and we have Platinum games who are pretty savvy with action games. Of course that's just a matter of opinion, but some of the things people are criticizing the game for.. as always are things we don't know or people complaining about how over the top it looks when the series it self has it's own over the top moments.
awesome, <3
I guess the story setting should be between metal gear s 2 and metal gear s 4 then. Al lot of empty story between that, and now they can put teh raiden story in MGS5 as well as snake.
Brilliant!
I guess the story setting should be between metal gear s 2 and metal gear s 4 then. Al lot of empty story between that, and now they can put teh raiden story in MGS5 as well as snake.
Brilliant!
Uh, that awful expression on his face. He looks like a ninja turtle ready to fuck me over. I wan't to smash this face to the ground so hard.
Kojima:
"This will be the last Metal Gear Solid that I will make......Until I make the next one."
*troll grin*
"This will be the last Metal Gear Solid that I will make......Until I make the next one."
*troll grin*
Look, Metal Gear Solid is one of my favorite franchises of all time. BUT FOR GOD'S SAKE PLEASE RELEASE A NEW CONSOLE ZONE OF ENDERS. PLEASE!
Metal Gear Solid 5 is rumoured - Everyone bitches that MGS4 was more than enough and 5 should not happen.
Metal Gear Rising is re-announced - Everyone complains that it isn't a true MGS game as it isn't based around stealth.
A new stealth based MGS is confirmed alongside MGR - Everyone is happy.
Metal Gear Rising is re-announced - Everyone complains that it isn't a true MGS game as it isn't based around stealth.
A new stealth based MGS is confirmed alongside MGR - Everyone is happy.
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