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"You know what that says to me? That a publisher is not confident that its game is worth keeping"
Is that really what it says to you? It says to me, 'don't be tradin' this mahfucker in, yo, bitches be pissed when they buy them shitz, son'
Is that really what it says to you? It says to me, 'don't be tradin' this mahfucker in, yo, bitches be pissed when they buy them shitz, son'
Here's an online pass for your offline game, enjoy!...oh right, that's a pretty douchey thing to do.
Sucks for people who don't have Internet. I'm still getting it FTP support the people who made it and not EA. (I would almost pirate the game and send money staite to the developer)
My question is what happens to these games when the publisher decides to stop supporting the DLC download servers. Is that extra content lost forever basically? You will no longer be able to play the full game, even if you DID buy it new.
If they're going to go this route just include serial cd keys like pc games do already, stop messing around.
I think I'm just gonna wait til 2 weeks after release when it drops to 40$. It's gonna happen... The game looks interesting but the demo didn't do much for me. Eagerly awaiting Jims review.
I'll still gamefly it and just not have those quests. The demo was fun but nothing that screamed to my achey breaky heart that I needed to own. An online pass for a single player game is quite troubling to me. I feel like I'm being punished because publishers don't know how to deal with the used games market.
Are people really not gonna buy this game because the pre-owned version is missing 7 quests and an armour set? Game sounds huge, still reckon you'll get yer pennies worth? Am I not being cynical enough about the online pass thing? Haven't had to use on yet, this game will be my first.
And unfortunately we know that people will complain but STILL buy the game...so EA's scheme is working anyway.
The game is ok, I tried the demo last night. That's the problem though. It's just OK. I find the graphical presentation to be very pleasing with a variety of colors, the environments vibrant, good character models etc but beyond that it seems like a standard corridor / Phantasy star online style hack and slash. It's a beautiful and competent Upgrade to that Gauntlet / Final Fight / Dark Alliance style of beat'em up.
In the demo, nothing really made me WANT to play the game. Did I enjoy it? Sure, but not ( and this is probably part of what's driving the online pass at EA ) to the point where I'd drop 60 bucks on it because I HAVE to get it day 1.
I'll wait until I see a good sale to get it, and enjoy it a lot I think, but there's nothing here to grab me and make me want to play it day 1. It's a shame really it does a good job at what it does, yet somehow there's no hook to it.
In the demo, nothing really made me WANT to play the game. Did I enjoy it? Sure, but not ( and this is probably part of what's driving the online pass at EA ) to the point where I'd drop 60 bucks on it because I HAVE to get it day 1.
I'll wait until I see a good sale to get it, and enjoy it a lot I think, but there's nothing here to grab me and make me want to play it day 1. It's a shame really it does a good job at what it does, yet somehow there's no hook to it.
@ChaosTeaCup
Besides the obvious used issue, online passes also punish those with multiple accounts as well as multiple people sharing the same game. They are, in mine and many peoples opinion, like Jim, a cancer that needs chemo quick.
Besides the obvious used issue, online passes also punish those with multiple accounts as well as multiple people sharing the same game. They are, in mine and many peoples opinion, like Jim, a cancer that needs chemo quick.
Could be worse. Knowing EA, they could've forced the developers to shoehorn online co-op/mulitplayer into the campaign in order to enforce an online pass. But still, this is low.
Thanks, Warner Bros. for starting this "online pass for single-player, offline games" trend with Arkham City. Really appreciate it.
Thanks, Warner Bros. for starting this "online pass for single-player, offline games" trend with Arkham City. Really appreciate it.
@jinx 01 by the time that'd happen the game would be out in a game of the year flavor at 20 bucks anyway, complete with all the DLC so it's probably a non issue.
They're pretty much telling everyone whose console is not connected to the internet to go fuck themselves.
*Sigh* I'll just need to write a blog about it because I dont want to waste that much space here in the comments, but I just dont think online passes are that terrible.
Damn it, that really tempers my excitement for this game. I buy the bulk of my games new so ultimately it doesn't really affect me but it is just such a shitty thing to do.
EA as a company in the past few years has been incredible to watch. Going from the evil overlords to the 'everyone loves us because we are not Activision' company, back to the evil overlords again really has to take some kind of warped skill.
@Jinx & Properly: Most likely, it'll be sold as Marketplace/PSN Store/Origin DLC. You won't need to be online to play this stuff, just online to download it on your hard drive.
I guess the only saving grace is that it doesn't have an expiration date (see: certain ME2 codes) and isn't on a dedicated server that EA deems it as "under-performing", before pulling the plug (see: any game released before 2009).
Yeah, it's still a shit business, either way.
I guess the only saving grace is that it doesn't have an expiration date (see: certain ME2 codes) and isn't on a dedicated server that EA deems it as "under-performing", before pulling the plug (see: any game released before 2009).
Yeah, it's still a shit business, either way.
Well, I was considering it up until this. Pass. If I get it I'll get it on Steam when it's super cheap. Shame since I've been following this rather closely, but I'm not supporting this BS and especially not at $60.
As someone who isn't usually as bothered by the online pass stuff a most, even I find this a bit stomach-turning.
I'm not really sure what single player games ARE worth keeping. Theyre all pretty linear, and after I've hung the game up, I rarely go back, no matter how good the game was.
I'm not sure what your policy is at Destructoid but why don't you guys start docking points on reviews of games with online passes? Cut like 2 points out of the score and make a point to say that it was because online pass was required.
I don't agree with Online Passes, but they don't really bother me when they are for the "Online" portion of the game since I largely by games new and for their single player component anyways, but putting a online activated pass for single player games completely invalidates all the reasons publishers have put them in games. This is wrong on every level. Didn't buy Batman: Arkham City, ain't buying this either.
@Tubatic: Though the argument there is that, of course, if it was worth keeping most people wouldn't sell it and therefore more people would have to buy new. Is this totally realistic? No, since many people sell not because it is not worth keeping but because it is the only reason to bankroll new games to play.
@BalloonFighter @Kennereth
No it's not. I hate online passes as much as the next guy, but docking two points from a game simply because a publisher demanded an online pass is simply a dick move. All you're doing there is punishing the developer for some fuck up on the publishers part. Bad review scores = bad prospects for developer.
No it's not. I hate online passes as much as the next guy, but docking two points from a game simply because a publisher demanded an online pass is simply a dick move. All you're doing there is punishing the developer for some fuck up on the publishers part. Bad review scores = bad prospects for developer.
what about people who don't have the means to download huge files. I know a guy who preordered this who doesn't have his xbox hooked up to online because his internet is crap.
This is outrageous. Why don't they just go to full-on CD keys if they're doing this with single player games?
Its like they WANT me to pirate it.
Its like they WANT me to pirate it.
Thanks, Volty.
I see it from that score, and I do occasionally give my lil brother a handful of games when I get to see him, but having to front up for MP is one thing, but missing out on 7 quests in a large RPG is not a deal-breaker, really. But I can see this going places that may eventually piss me off.
I see it from that score, and I do occasionally give my lil brother a handful of games when I get to see him, but having to front up for MP is one thing, but missing out on 7 quests in a large RPG is not a deal-breaker, really. But I can see this going places that may eventually piss me off.
I won't be "docking points" over this because games do not automatically start and ten points and work down.
The game will get what I think it deserves to get based off the text. The game truly is a lot of fun. Business-related shit like this is simply an unfortunate barrier to that fun.
The game will get what I think it deserves to get based off the text. The game truly is a lot of fun. Business-related shit like this is simply an unfortunate barrier to that fun.
"Snaggletooth: Removing from steam wishlist."
THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. Every Steam game effectively has an online pass already, you just don't have to punch in a code.
THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. Every Steam game effectively has an online pass already, you just don't have to punch in a code.
Sounds good to me. I've never been too fond of subsidizing the used game market. Cheap assess should at least contribute SOMETHING to the continued existence of the industry.
I don't view this that much differently than any other dlc. Theyre usually tacked on money grabs, whose total playtime is not proportionate to the price to game time ratio you got with the original release. That makes just about ALL dlc pretty much garbage to me with just a few exceptions.I don't view this as any "worse".
I am at the point now, that I don't care anymore about new games from publishers who want to fuck with their customers.
I have the option to literally play 1000's of games spanning generations of consoles, starting at coleco and up.
If these companies stopped making games today (which it seems they are doing) I would be totally fine with that, because I still have a shit ton of NES games I have yet to finish.
So EA, Activision, Capcom, etc. can go fuck themselves with this first day Disc Locked Content and online pass bullshit, gamers will be fine with what they have.
I have the option to literally play 1000's of games spanning generations of consoles, starting at coleco and up.
If these companies stopped making games today (which it seems they are doing) I would be totally fine with that, because I still have a shit ton of NES games I have yet to finish.
So EA, Activision, Capcom, etc. can go fuck themselves with this first day Disc Locked Content and online pass bullshit, gamers will be fine with what they have.
@ BalloonFighter ... a very good idea, but gaming sites like this and others would be biting the hand that feeds them. A hero to the gamers but I am sure execs behinds these sites will not be amused. Not to mention publishers and developers can be real petty and spiteful pansies...and won't hesitate to stop sending review copies and whatever "thank you" gifts they usually send behind the scenes. It would take all review sites to uphold this...and unfortunately, some will rather keep the sweet relationship with certain gaming companies\developers\publishers in tact.
Yeah I agree with Balloon Fighter, this practice has gotten to the point I don't think reviewers should ignore it as a scoring factor anymore.
When you have RPGs out there like Skyrim and Dark Souls and they're not using online passes and doing well, there's no excuse to lock off single player content in your own RPG.
@VollySquirrel - While I understand what you're saying, the developer isn't exactly an innocent here. They knew this was EA, they know what EA does and they went with EA anyway. They're collateral damage. I say still dock the points.
When you have RPGs out there like Skyrim and Dark Souls and they're not using online passes and doing well, there's no excuse to lock off single player content in your own RPG.
@VollySquirrel - While I understand what you're saying, the developer isn't exactly an innocent here. They knew this was EA, they know what EA does and they went with EA anyway. They're collateral damage. I say still dock the points.
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