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Kingdoms of Amalur hides seven quests behind online pass photo

Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning is a single-player game, but that hasn't stopped Electronic Arts from cramming an online pass into the game. We knew the pass was going to hide the game's Mass Effect tie-in armor, but now we know that it's holding seven full quests to ransom, too. 

This is what greeted me when I opened my review copy, anyway. No manual or anything, just an online pass. Also, the code on my pass is currently invalid, so I cannot get to the content and see what it's like. The sheet tells me I'll get an entire quest line though, made up of seven individual quests. 

It's pretty sad that single-player games are starting to chuck online passes around. You know what that says to me? That a publisher is not confident that its game is worth keeping. That's really not the kind of message you want to send your consumers before they even put the disc in.

It's a shame, because Amalur might actually be worth keeping ... but EA clearly doesn't think so.








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VoltySquirrel's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 08:43
VoltySquirrel
Total fucking bullshit.
ChaosTeaCup's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 08:45
ChaosTeaCup
"You know what that says to me? That a publisher is not confident that its game is worth keeping"

Is that really what it says to you? It says to me, 'don't be tradin' this mahfucker in, yo, bitches be pissed when they buy them shitz, son'
Begaria's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 08:45
Begaria
Here's an online pass for your offline game, enjoy!...oh right, that's a pretty douchey thing to do.
Darckcloud723's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 08:46
Darckcloud723
Sucks for people who don't have Internet. I'm still getting it FTP support the people who made it and not EA. (I would almost pirate the game and send money staite to the developer)
JQM78's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 08:46
JQM78
Guess ill stick with my amazon preorder and forego gamefly on this one.
Jinx 01's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 08:48
Jinx 01
My question is what happens to these games when the publisher decides to stop supporting the DLC download servers. Is that extra content lost forever basically? You will no longer be able to play the full game, even if you DID buy it new.
Mattchew's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 08:52
Mattchew
If they're going to go this route just include serial cd keys like pc games do already, stop messing around.
Snaggletooth's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 08:53
Snaggletooth
Removing from steam wishlist.
Jinxstar's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 08:53
Jinxstar
I think I'm just gonna wait til 2 weeks after release when it drops to 40$. It's gonna happen... The game looks interesting but the demo didn't do much for me. Eagerly awaiting Jims review.
Hugh G Rection's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 08:55
Hugh G Rection
Doubt I'd pick it up anyway but this seals the deal. 1 sale lost.
Occams electric toothbrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 08:58
Occams electric toothbrush
I'll still gamefly it and just not have those quests. The demo was fun but nothing that screamed to my achey breaky heart that I needed to own. An online pass for a single player game is quite troubling to me. I feel like I'm being punished because publishers don't know how to deal with the used games market.
ChaosTeaCup's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:00
ChaosTeaCup
Are people really not gonna buy this game because the pre-owned version is missing 7 quests and an armour set? Game sounds huge, still reckon you'll get yer pennies worth? Am I not being cynical enough about the online pass thing? Haven't had to use on yet, this game will be my first.
Kennereth's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:01
Kennereth
And unfortunately we know that people will complain but STILL buy the game...so EA's scheme is working anyway.
MrFloppyknickers's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:02
MrFloppyknickers
The game is ok, I tried the demo last night. That's the problem though. It's just OK. I find the graphical presentation to be very pleasing with a variety of colors, the environments vibrant, good character models etc but beyond that it seems like a standard corridor / Phantasy star online style hack and slash. It's a beautiful and competent Upgrade to that Gauntlet / Final Fight / Dark Alliance style of beat'em up.

In the demo, nothing really made me WANT to play the game. Did I enjoy it? Sure, but not ( and this is probably part of what's driving the online pass at EA ) to the point where I'd drop 60 bucks on it because I HAVE to get it day 1.

I'll wait until I see a good sale to get it, and enjoy it a lot I think, but there's nothing here to grab me and make me want to play it day 1. It's a shame really it does a good job at what it does, yet somehow there's no hook to it.
ProperlyParanoid's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:02
ProperlyParanoid
What Jixn01 said.

Guess I'm not buying this one!
VoltySquirrel's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:02
VoltySquirrel
@ChaosTeaCup

Besides the obvious used issue, online passes also punish those with multiple accounts as well as multiple people sharing the same game. They are, in mine and many peoples opinion, like Jim, a cancer that needs chemo quick.
DrRockso87's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:03
DrRockso87
Could be worse. Knowing EA, they could've forced the developers to shoehorn online co-op/mulitplayer into the campaign in order to enforce an online pass. But still, this is low.

Thanks, Warner Bros. for starting this "online pass for single-player, offline games" trend with Arkham City. Really appreciate it.
MrFloppyknickers's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:04
MrFloppyknickers
@jinx 01 by the time that'd happen the game would be out in a game of the year flavor at 20 bucks anyway, complete with all the DLC so it's probably a non issue.
SomalianDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:05
SomalianDude
wow EA the only publisher even non-gamers i know hate
Pajolero's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:07
Pajolero
They're pretty much telling everyone whose console is not connected to the internet to go fuck themselves.
NickCull's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:07
NickCull
Embarrassing.
flintmech's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:08
flintmech
First they came for the multiplayer,
And I didn't speak up because I didn't play multiplayer.
SephirothX's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:08
SephirothX
*Sigh* I'll just need to write a blog about it because I dont want to waste that much space here in the comments, but I just dont think online passes are that terrible.
molamolacolacake's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:08
molamolacolacake
Damn it, that really tempers my excitement for this game. I buy the bulk of my games new so ultimately it doesn't really affect me but it is just such a shitty thing to do.
Azzurus's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:11
Azzurus
EA as a company in the past few years has been incredible to watch. Going from the evil overlords to the 'everyone loves us because we are not Activision' company, back to the evil overlords again really has to take some kind of warped skill.
Stevil's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:13
Stevil
@Jinx & Properly: Most likely, it'll be sold as Marketplace/PSN Store/Origin DLC. You won't need to be online to play this stuff, just online to download it on your hard drive.

I guess the only saving grace is that it doesn't have an expiration date (see: certain ME2 codes) and isn't on a dedicated server that EA deems it as "under-performing", before pulling the plug (see: any game released before 2009).

Yeah, it's still a shit business, either way.
Startyde's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:13
Startyde
Spoiler: Kingdoms of Amalur is NOT worth keeping.
Infidel1990's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:15
Infidel1990
FUCK EA FUCK EA FUCK EA FUCK EA FUCK EA FUCK EA FUCK EA FUCK EA FUCK EA
Epic-Kx's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:19
Epic-Kx
*sigh*
Drakengard's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:20
Drakengard
Well, I was considering it up until this. Pass. If I get it I'll get it on Steam when it's super cheap. Shame since I've been following this rather closely, but I'm not supporting this BS and especially not at $60.
Jsparco's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:20
Jsparco
I'm surprised it's that many quest... meh...
- Stephanie
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:21
The Silent Protagonist
Well, that makes getting RE: Revelations and other games so much easier.

Fuck EA.
TXYeti's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:21
TXYeti
As someone who isn't usually as bothered by the online pass stuff a most, even I find this a bit stomach-turning.
CaveGamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:21
CaveGamer
I'm not really sure what single player games ARE worth keeping. Theyre all pretty linear, and after I've hung the game up, I rarely go back, no matter how good the game was.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:21
Tubatic
it says more about wanting people to buy new than it does about the worth of the game.
BalloonFighter's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:23
BalloonFighter
I'm not sure what your policy is at Destructoid but why don't you guys start docking points on reviews of games with online passes? Cut like 2 points out of the score and make a point to say that it was because online pass was required.
8bitstitches's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:24
8bitstitches
I don't agree with Online Passes, but they don't really bother me when they are for the "Online" portion of the game since I largely by games new and for their single player component anyways, but putting a online activated pass for single player games completely invalidates all the reasons publishers have put them in games. This is wrong on every level. Didn't buy Batman: Arkham City, ain't buying this either.
molamolacolacake's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:25
molamolacolacake
@Tubatic: Though the argument there is that, of course, if it was worth keeping most people wouldn't sell it and therefore more people would have to buy new. Is this totally realistic? No, since many people sell not because it is not worth keeping but because it is the only reason to bankroll new games to play.
Kennereth's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:25
Kennereth
@BalloonFighter - Great idea.
Master Snake's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:28
Master Snake
@Flintmech:

Ah, I see what you did there. Bravo!
VoltySquirrel's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:29
VoltySquirrel
@BalloonFighter @Kennereth

No it's not. I hate online passes as much as the next guy, but docking two points from a game simply because a publisher demanded an online pass is simply a dick move. All you're doing there is punishing the developer for some fuck up on the publishers part. Bad review scores = bad prospects for developer.
Adrian Smith's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:31
Adrian Smith
what about people who don't have the means to download huge files. I know a guy who preordered this who doesn't have his xbox hooked up to online because his internet is crap.
Luigi takes over's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:32
Luigi takes over
This is outrageous. Why don't they just go to full-on CD keys if they're doing this with single player games?

Its like they WANT me to pirate it.
ChaosTeaCup's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:34
ChaosTeaCup
Thanks, Volty.

I see it from that score, and I do occasionally give my lil brother a handful of games when I get to see him, but having to front up for MP is one thing, but missing out on 7 quests in a large RPG is not a deal-breaker, really. But I can see this going places that may eventually piss me off.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:34
Jim Sterling
I won't be "docking points" over this because games do not automatically start and ten points and work down.

The game will get what I think it deserves to get based off the text. The game truly is a lot of fun. Business-related shit like this is simply an unfortunate barrier to that fun.
PwnTang's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:35
PwnTang
"Snaggletooth: Removing from steam wishlist."

THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. Every Steam game effectively has an online pass already, you just don't have to punch in a code.
dtomek's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:36
dtomek
Sounds good to me. I've never been too fond of subsidizing the used game market. Cheap assess should at least contribute SOMETHING to the continued existence of the industry.
CaveGamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:36
CaveGamer
I don't view this that much differently than any other dlc. Theyre usually tacked on money grabs, whose total playtime is not proportionate to the price to game time ratio you got with the original release. That makes just about ALL dlc pretty much garbage to me with just a few exceptions.I don't view this as any "worse".
free touch's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:37
free touch
I am at the point now, that I don't care anymore about new games from publishers who want to fuck with their customers.

I have the option to literally play 1000's of games spanning generations of consoles, starting at coleco and up.

If these companies stopped making games today (which it seems they are doing) I would be totally fine with that, because I still have a shit ton of NES games I have yet to finish.

So EA, Activision, Capcom, etc. can go fuck themselves with this first day Disc Locked Content and online pass bullshit, gamers will be fine with what they have.
RagingStormX's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 09:39
RagingStormX
@ BalloonFighter ... a very good idea, but gaming sites like this and others would be biting the hand that feeds them. A hero to the gamers but I am sure execs behinds these sites will not be amused. Not to mention publishers and developers can be real petty and spiteful pansies...and won't hesitate to stop sending review copies and whatever "thank you" gifts they usually send behind the scenes. It would take all review sites to uphold this...and unfortunately, some will rather keep the sweet relationship with certain gaming companies\developers\publishers in tact.
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