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BULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLShit
I'm sure it did well, but I doubt it's "the fastest selling consumer electronic in history" That's just crazy.
I'm sure it did well, but I doubt it's "the fastest selling consumer electronic in history" That's just crazy.
I've seen Kinect units for sale in stores. It took several months before I ever saw a Wii that was not pre-ordered already.
So... No, I can't believe that.
So... No, I can't believe that.
I dont think that "fastest selling consumer electronic in history" is referred to total sales volume, probably they are talking about some kind of "sales during 3 ammount of time" ratio.
Yeah, I'm gonna call boolsheet. No doubt it did well (I work in a GameStop), but even the several-years-its-predecessor Wii outsold it at my location. Kinect and the Move were roughly the same, and (as much as I hate to say it) I can't see this thing even getting close to the various iProducts.
So I guess the fact that I only know one person who owns a Kinect is proof of this.
Uh, hold on, that doesn't add up.
Uh, hold on, that doesn't add up.
I don't believe it
I switched to Geico and saved 15% on my car insurance!
Seriously though, I dont believe it.
I switched to Geico and saved 15% on my car insurance!
Seriously though, I dont believe it.
I don't doubt the huge holiday sales but the thing is stockpiled everywhere now. Also didn't the ipad sell like 4 million in an hour?
I can't believe this. I'm the only person I know with a kinect out of the 50 or so friends I have on xbox live. None of my family have it either and there tons in stock at stores. I want more games for it to come out, nothing good has come out in months(and even that was relative)
fastest selling to stores to keep on there shelves maybe...I honestly like the kinect as a piece of hardware but aside from EA active 2 it really doesn't have anything that makes me wanna stand in front of it.
Why does everything Microsoft say make me hate them
also that claim is complete bullshit, sure it sold well, but not that well
also that claim is complete bullshit, sure it sold well, but not that well
Hold on, there's another thing that doesn't add up.
The fact that they STILL HAVE NOT RELEASED SALES FIGURES.
The fact that they STILL HAVE NOT RELEASED SALES FIGURES.
Sounds like bull to me. Seriously, they think they did better than the likes of the iPhone? Really? I'd like to see some real numbers if they're that confident.
For some reason, this was the first thing I thought of after reading that headline.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUPDRnUWeBA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUPDRnUWeBA
And all 4 of our local news stations are '#1 in local news.'
Who cares? It's bullshit numbers interpreted in a way that makes the company look better. This happens with everything, everywhere.
Who cares? It's bullshit numbers interpreted in a way that makes the company look better. This happens with everything, everywhere.
I know about 10 people with Kinect so it must be true! But you only know 1, so that must be true!
In the world of statistics and polling, those are what are known as fallacies. Those are outlying examples that are 100% unreliable in finding the "truth". Good example is the whole "my grandmother smoked everyday and she lived to be 100, smoking must be good for you".
Not saying that they AREN'T lying, but not saying they are either. What I am saying, is that the argument "well near me..." and "well the people I know..." have zero bearing. You have tons where you are? Great, cause there are none where I live except the very last one that I bought. It is possible that it was the fastest selling (and I do not know what that actually means, so by their definition of "fastest" that may be quite accurate), but without knowing their definition it is hard to definitely say what they are referring to.
In the world of statistics and polling, those are what are known as fallacies. Those are outlying examples that are 100% unreliable in finding the "truth". Good example is the whole "my grandmother smoked everyday and she lived to be 100, smoking must be good for you".
Not saying that they AREN'T lying, but not saying they are either. What I am saying, is that the argument "well near me..." and "well the people I know..." have zero bearing. You have tons where you are? Great, cause there are none where I live except the very last one that I bought. It is possible that it was the fastest selling (and I do not know what that actually means, so by their definition of "fastest" that may be quite accurate), but without knowing their definition it is hard to definitely say what they are referring to.
Actually, as much as I find my Kinect so very "meh," I think they're right. I'm seeing numbers in the 6-8 million range for the first month, and no other new product comes close. Apple sold 2m iPads in the first month, and that was a big deal. Given that the iPad is $500 (at least) and kinect costs significantly less, is bundled with consoles, came out near the holidays, AND is focused at not only the 'core market but casuals as well, I don't think their claim is complete rubbish, as much as I wish it were.
@RenegadePanda just like every show on CBS is "America's #1 Comedy" or "America's #1 New Drama" or "America's #1 Show for Geriatrics"
silly words from silly marketing departments.
maybe they mean the actual sales were fast, like shoppers run into the store, grab a kinect, sprint to the cashier and zip through the line. i prefer to think that's what they meant.
silly words from silly marketing departments.
maybe they mean the actual sales were fast, like shoppers run into the store, grab a kinect, sprint to the cashier and zip through the line. i prefer to think that's what they meant.
I love posts like this about Kinect, just to see the inevitable nerd rage over it. It just kills a certain segment of people, and I find their tears and whining delicious and nourishing. Om nom nom.
"Kinect has sold more than that thing you like, how does that make you feel?"
...nom nom.
"Kinect has sold more than that thing you like, how does that make you feel?"
...nom nom.
I for one am not surprised, with such a great lineup of AAA titles to support it, you would have to be a complete idiot not to have bought one. Just look at all of the amazing, exclusive titles coming out for Kinect and 360 in 2011; it's absolutely mind boggling!
It's so refreshing when consumers actually think for themselves and are able to make informed, critical decisions about the products they buy. So often it's just the bleating sheep herding themselves to slaughter.
It's so refreshing when consumers actually think for themselves and are able to make informed, critical decisions about the products they buy. So often it's just the bleating sheep herding themselves to slaughter.
Kinect sold 8 million in its first two months compared to Wii's 5 and iPad's 3. Can you think of anything that has sold faster?
i honestly dont think they sold 8 million. what about all those units they gave away on tv shows and what not for promotional advertising?
Yeah. They are using the "fastest selling ever*" ...
"* in X months of time" method of boasting. As seen in the "sell through to retailers" inflation used as a metric of sales, instead of the original "sold to consumers".
Ah. Classic Microsoft. Love it or hate it, at least they learned from Sony that a product is never defective (it's a feature!), and if it is it's best not to admit it. Then you can issue a new product that will remedy the problems (360 Mini, hopefully) and have old buyers (old 360 owners) buying it and inflating your numbers (when they should've received a working product on dayone).
"* in X months of time" method of boasting. As seen in the "sell through to retailers" inflation used as a metric of sales, instead of the original "sold to consumers".
Ah. Classic Microsoft. Love it or hate it, at least they learned from Sony that a product is never defective (it's a feature!), and if it is it's best not to admit it. Then you can issue a new product that will remedy the problems (360 Mini, hopefully) and have old buyers (old 360 owners) buying it and inflating your numbers (when they should've received a working product on dayone).
"Kinect sold 8 million in its first two months compared to Wii's 5 and iPad's 3. Can you think of anything that has sold faster?"
THIS.
Seriously, what the fuck is up with the dumbshit uneducated comments? "herpp durr, in their dreams! they didn't announce statistics derpp!"
EXCEPT THEY DID, at CES. 8 million in 2 months, trumping the iPad and the Wii. Granted, yeah, the iPad is more expensive, but price doesn't always mean everything as you can see when Sony released Move shipments (meaning the $50 move controller). In more than double the time on the market as Kinect, and 3x cheaper, they shipped 4 million of those controllers to retailers the first time Microsoft released Kinect numbers.
I guess it's easy to see why comments turned out this way with Jim's half-assed flamebait attempt, leaving out vital information as usual. It's just ironic that the information he left out are also from articles he wrote at the time, like this:
http://www.destructoid.com/ces-kinect-sells-over-8-million-360-breaks-50-million-190914.phtml
THIS.
Seriously, what the fuck is up with the dumbshit uneducated comments? "herpp durr, in their dreams! they didn't announce statistics derpp!"
EXCEPT THEY DID, at CES. 8 million in 2 months, trumping the iPad and the Wii. Granted, yeah, the iPad is more expensive, but price doesn't always mean everything as you can see when Sony released Move shipments (meaning the $50 move controller). In more than double the time on the market as Kinect, and 3x cheaper, they shipped 4 million of those controllers to retailers the first time Microsoft released Kinect numbers.
I guess it's easy to see why comments turned out this way with Jim's half-assed flamebait attempt, leaving out vital information as usual. It's just ironic that the information he left out are also from articles he wrote at the time, like this:
http://www.destructoid.com/ces-kinect-sells-over-8-million-360-breaks-50-million-190914.phtml
Lets just think about the times when the iPhone first launched, and the iPad. You couldn't turn the tv on without hearing about the frenzy. The kinect is hardly causing a stir of such magnitude.
http://www.telecomasia.net/content/ipad-sales-hit-2m-under-two-months
It's like some people are in denial or just refusing to admit Kinect's success, whatever that may be.
It's like some people are in denial or just refusing to admit Kinect's success, whatever that may be.
The reason it did this is because M$ met the demand. The wii was back ordered so much cause there wasn't enough to meet demand. For once M$ did the right thing. They put a shit ton of kinects to market. Advertised the fuck out of it and bam "fastest selling consumer electronic". I don't understand all the denial. Does it hurt you guys that this sold well? Not me. Hell I have one. It's fun on a Friday night with friends. Quit your whining haters:)
Lol what's everyones problem? Who gives a shit kudos to microsoft for making bank. Kinect still holds no interest to me and it seems to most "hardcore" gamers. What has microsoft been thinking lately? Its 2011 lineup is almost as bad as its original hardware.
Haters gonna hate. As much as MS has pissed me off in the past, Kinect is awesome and I'm glad sales are paralleling that.
@GoofierBrute
What exactly makes me stupid? I'm assuming your saying anyone who purchased a kinect is stupid. Right? My kids love it. My wife actually plays games now and at the end of the night I can still play deadspace 2. I'm failing to see what exactly makes people stupid. The only thing stupid in these comments are a bunch of holier than you (hardcore), Jaded gamers who can't accept that M$ made a smart move here.
What exactly makes me stupid? I'm assuming your saying anyone who purchased a kinect is stupid. Right? My kids love it. My wife actually plays games now and at the end of the night I can still play deadspace 2. I'm failing to see what exactly makes people stupid. The only thing stupid in these comments are a bunch of holier than you (hardcore), Jaded gamers who can't accept that M$ made a smart move here.
Hard to believe.....I got a kinect on launch day, but I haven't used it since.....the games really, really blow.
" "Kinect sold 8 million in its first two months compared to Wii's 5 and iPad's 3. Can you think of anything that has sold faster?"
THIS.
Seriously, what the fuck is up with the dumbshit uneducated comments?"
Because it is still bullshit?
This is Microsoft claiming Kinect is the "fastest-selling consumer electronics device in history". Ignoring how vague this statement is (what IS a consumer electronics device?) it is blatantly missleading.
If you take Kinect as a platform, they are decieving you because it get's sold with the hardware and you could almost not get the hardware without the system.
If you take it as an accesory, then it's patently false, since I'm pretty sure that MORE WIIMOTES HAVE SOLD IN 2 MONTHS THAN KINECTS, specially if you include those on the console, bundled with WiPlay and sold separately.
If you take it as an "consumer electronics device", you open the door to include millions of products in everyday life, including cell phones and children's toys.
THIS.
Seriously, what the fuck is up with the dumbshit uneducated comments?"
Because it is still bullshit?
This is Microsoft claiming Kinect is the "fastest-selling consumer electronics device in history". Ignoring how vague this statement is (what IS a consumer electronics device?) it is blatantly missleading.
If you take Kinect as a platform, they are decieving you because it get's sold with the hardware and you could almost not get the hardware without the system.
If you take it as an accesory, then it's patently false, since I'm pretty sure that MORE WIIMOTES HAVE SOLD IN 2 MONTHS THAN KINECTS, specially if you include those on the console, bundled with WiPlay and sold separately.
If you take it as an "consumer electronics device", you open the door to include millions of products in everyday life, including cell phones and children's toys.
@El Conrado
8 million in 2 months. I've never heard of a "consumer electronic" selling that fast. People have posted plent of links in thus thread to support what M$ is saying. Where's your proof. Or anyone who says this is bullshit proof? I want a link showing another "consumer electronic" selling 8 million in 2 months please. Until then kindly fuck off bitchers:)
8 million in 2 months. I've never heard of a "consumer electronic" selling that fast. People have posted plent of links in thus thread to support what M$ is saying. Where's your proof. Or anyone who says this is bullshit proof? I want a link showing another "consumer electronic" selling 8 million in 2 months please. Until then kindly fuck off bitchers:)
Jesse7277
"8 million in 2 months. I've never heard of a "consumer electronic" selling that fast."
And you never will, because most cosumer electronics manufacturers don't boast their sales numbers.
Besides, use some common sense. As I told before, with the wii selling 5.4 million units and Wii Play selling 2 million in it's first 2 months, plus whatever amount of extra Wii remotes sold on the same period, the whole "fastest selling electronics device" thing is pure bollocks. And since the Nunchuck sold on a 3 to 1 basis to the system, you can add that to the mix.
"8 million in 2 months. I've never heard of a "consumer electronic" selling that fast."
And you never will, because most cosumer electronics manufacturers don't boast their sales numbers.
Besides, use some common sense. As I told before, with the wii selling 5.4 million units and Wii Play selling 2 million in it's first 2 months, plus whatever amount of extra Wii remotes sold on the same period, the whole "fastest selling electronics device" thing is pure bollocks. And since the Nunchuck sold on a 3 to 1 basis to the system, you can add that to the mix.
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