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Killzone 2 devs think patches are important photo

Killzone 2 developer Guerrilla Games has shown a strong commitment to regularly updating the high profile PS3 exclusive with improvements, something that managing director Herman Hulst claims is a "strong" part of the Triple A game process.

"Well, we've done patches also for Killzone 1, right? Though the systems then were less meant to do these patches, but still, we were able to do that," explains Hulst. "I was talking to some other guys out of Bungie at GDC on the idea that games don't ever finish anymore, right? So, you go into this kind of service model, and you keep on improving your game.

"... We're thinking about continuous improvements to our game. If we find issues, we now have a million-plus people playing the game actively -- if you look at the Killzone.com site, [that's] how many people are playing it. So they're bound to find issues or cheat. You know, we had an issue with auto-aim being a kind of cheaty solution sometimes, so we fixed that, just to make the experience nice for everybody. I think that will continue for the next half year.

"The Halo guys are working on Halo 3 still two years down the line," he continues. "I think that's the kind of model that you're looking at. The Left 4 Dead guys, I think they did 70 patches or so? And they slip it under the curtain. You don't see it anymore, with Steam. That's the way that you need to think about these kinds of things ... It's a strong thing that we listen to our customers and we fix these things when we find them, and just help improve the game continuously."

It's certainly great that developers can continue to support their games now, provided we don't get into a mentality where they feel they can rush out a shoddy product and finish it with patches after the fact. I'm glad that KZ2 continues to get improved, even if updates on the PS3 take ten billion years.








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BrainLazy's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2009 15:59
BrainLazy
Well if they rush out shoddy product, it kind of turns everyone off. There have been very few times that I actually went back to something when my initial impression of something was terrible.

It's a good think KillZone 2 was actually very complete when released.
lazyhoboguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2009 16:05
lazyhoboguy
Well when thay charge 6 bucks for 2 maps, they better freaking relases patches lol.
bart999's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2009 16:14
bart999
Evoking Bungie and Valve in the context of supporting this product makes me very grateful that I have the game.
tgammet's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2009 16:21
tgammet
You hit the nail on the head. They got the game out finished, and then just continued to support. I'm so sick of unfinished games coming out.

Games like Bully 360 and the like just deplorable the state they shipped. I don't even know if they truly fixed all of the bugs in that game now that I think about it.
Spectreman's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2009 16:24
Spectreman
* Great. Now we want more maps and weapons.
Shirley Temple's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2009 16:26
Shirley Temple
What's worse is developers releasing an unfinished game, and then releasing 2 broken DLC before they even fix the game itself! (I'm looking at you, Bethesda)
BrainLazy's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2009 16:59
BrainLazy
@The Reborn

I have 30 Mbits down and downloading from PSN is not saturating my downstream in the slightest. Its around 800KBs. I'm wired Gbit as well.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2009 17:32
Chronic Logic
If the developers KNOWINGLY releases an unfinished product then continues to add stuff through DLC. Then that's just evil.
BattyAdroit's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2009 17:46
BattyAdroit
Your internet connection is fucking terrible, Jim. Look into it.
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2009 17:58
Naim Master
Jim , do you even have bandwith ? My PS3 updates take 10 minutes at worst ...
Zippyduda's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2009 18:03
Zippyduda
@ Naim: Exxxxactamundo, I don't even have Cable and all my updates (except MGS4, dear god that IS slow, I hate you Konami.....not really love you :P)

Anyway yeah this makes sense anyway, common sense really.
Zippyduda's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2009 18:04
Zippyduda
My bad, "all my updates are extremely fast"*

Got distracted by my hate of the torrent MGS4 update system, so slow....
BrainLazy's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2009 18:31
BrainLazy
@The Reborn

I'm having problems following what you're saying. You your downstream is sitting at slightly over 4Mbits or Bytes? and you have a 5Mbit connection? I am going to assume everything you've said is MegaBit, because that's the only way it makes sense.

4 Mbits translates to around 320Kbytes/sec which is not fast at all.

Also, the only reason I mentioned that I was wired Gbit it because some people maybe running 802.11b WIFI, in which case the wireless portion would be the bottleneck and not the connection.

Basically everything I was saying was that PSN could be MUCH FASTER. Because it hardly saturates my downstream. And now that Optimum Online Ultra is coming out, it will be quite a difference.

Also, not just knocking PSN's network because XBL's LimeLight network is dog slow.
brownpig's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2009 18:43
brownpig
This game has really improved through the patches so far. Menus need some features, to allow us to play with friends and not make the match unbalanced, but in terms of the core gameplay, it is really quite perfect in my opinion.
ThatOtherPerson's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2009 19:21
ThatOtherPerson
I think its great that developers are willing to continue working on there games post release and I love that current consoles have made it possible to do so with such great online functionality and the inclusion of hard drives.

On a side not I've really got to get that game. I finally got a HDMI cable and have ones again returned to drooling over the mind fuck that is the graphical beauty of KillZone 2.
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