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They said whether or not the Republique Kickstarter succeeds, the game will most likely get made. And for that, I feel good about backing it. I get the game and I helped make it :)
I also can't wait to see how all this stuff is working out in the next couple years. It could evolve the industry into something much better.
Or it could be taken down through a collaborative effort from big-deal publishers at risk of losing lots of money. That's my worry. At which point I think I'd stop buying games.
I also can't wait to see how all this stuff is working out in the next couple years. It could evolve the industry into something much better.
Or it could be taken down through a collaborative effort from big-deal publishers at risk of losing lots of money. That's my worry. At which point I think I'd stop buying games.
I appreciate at least giving lip service to being less of a negative windbag, but this blog is still being written by the person who said this:
"If Kickstarter proves anything, it's that gamers are as boring and mind-numb as the publishers they talk shit against. I seriously don't want to hear people complain about Activision funding a game, when people are throwing thousands (millions!) at yet another zombie game, yet another post-apocalyptic game, yet another military shooter. Nevermind that most of these projects don't have any concept footage or a build of any type to show off. "GUNS IN SPACE? THAT SOUNDS AWESOME! TAKE MY MONEY!!!"
I mean, fuck off!"
That's the person writing the weekly blog about Kickstarter. Boring and mind-numb, huh? Fuck off indeed.
"If Kickstarter proves anything, it's that gamers are as boring and mind-numb as the publishers they talk shit against. I seriously don't want to hear people complain about Activision funding a game, when people are throwing thousands (millions!) at yet another zombie game, yet another post-apocalyptic game, yet another military shooter. Nevermind that most of these projects don't have any concept footage or a build of any type to show off. "GUNS IN SPACE? THAT SOUNDS AWESOME! TAKE MY MONEY!!!"
I mean, fuck off!"
That's the person writing the weekly blog about Kickstarter. Boring and mind-numb, huh? Fuck off indeed.
@Tristrix
I think it's too early to say anything about Kickstarter considering that it's all happened fairly recently and games take some time to make. However, I can definitely see where Allistair is coming from. The does seem like a fad that people will end up regretting in a couple of years time.
I think it's too early to say anything about Kickstarter considering that it's all happened fairly recently and games take some time to make. However, I can definitely see where Allistair is coming from. The does seem like a fad that people will end up regretting in a couple of years time.
@Tristrix
"at yet another zombie game, yet another post-apocalyptic game"
Fuck off indeed. Bye bye forever.
"at yet another zombie game, yet another post-apocalyptic game"
Fuck off indeed. Bye bye forever.
@Allistar
I forgive you because it sounds like you've never played Earthbound, but you should know that the soundtrack was a huge part of the experience (and fandom) for that game. $5000 is totally reasonable for this project, in fact, probably conservative considering all of the fees and rewards that they would pay out of it. Also, I don't consider this to be an unoriginal project, as the goal was to create a 4 player co-op drop in RPG. I don't know of another game like that off the top of my head. Oh, and western?
Disclaimer: Not affiliated with the game, but I am a backer.
I forgive you because it sounds like you've never played Earthbound, but you should know that the soundtrack was a huge part of the experience (and fandom) for that game. $5000 is totally reasonable for this project, in fact, probably conservative considering all of the fees and rewards that they would pay out of it. Also, I don't consider this to be an unoriginal project, as the goal was to create a 4 player co-op drop in RPG. I don't know of another game like that off the top of my head. Oh, and western?
Disclaimer: Not affiliated with the game, but I am a backer.
I gladly backed Banner Saga after reading about it. So many things, from the art to the SRPG-ness sold me.
You're right though, the developers have high expectations to work under. I don't care if it arrives a bit later than they're aiming for, I just want it to come together properly and be fun to play.
You're right though, the developers have high expectations to work under. I don't care if it arrives a bit later than they're aiming for, I just want it to come together properly and be fun to play.
Why would you go about funding something that sounds too ambitious? I have no faith in Republique because I know nobody is going to buy that. Sad as it may be, people buy games they like. I certainly give everything it's fair judgement, but most gamers don't. Nothing wrong with throwing money at something you know will get finished.
AlLastair is the fellow who declaired a pc a glorified Xbox360.
Your verdict doesn't count for much mate.
Your verdict doesn't count for much mate.
Did you guys ever post about FTL? It had a kickstarter which got 2005% funded (yes more than 20 times what they asked for), and it looks like a fantastic little indie title.
It's a roguelike in which you control the inner workings of a ship as you explore vast star systems. The focus is on the internal workings on the ship, for instance you don't just click attack mindlessly until you win, instead you have to make your crew members move from room to room putting out fires, attacking boarders, boarding other ships, repairing systems, manning controls, etc.
It got honorable mentions at IGF and was a finalist as well. Very good stuff but not enough people know about it!
It's a roguelike in which you control the inner workings of a ship as you explore vast star systems. The focus is on the internal workings on the ship, for instance you don't just click attack mindlessly until you win, instead you have to make your crew members move from room to room putting out fires, attacking boarders, boarding other ships, repairing systems, manning controls, etc.
It got honorable mentions at IGF and was a finalist as well. Very good stuff but not enough people know about it!
"AlLastair is the fellow who declaired a pc a glorified Xbox360. "
Wow, really? Not that I'd be at all surprised at this point, but wow.
Wow, really? Not that I'd be at all surprised at this point, but wow.
@trix (and eventually Seph)
don't get mad at Allistair, because sucks at writing, just report him and move on, it's not like he's as high as sterling.
don't get mad at Allistair, because sucks at writing, just report him and move on, it's not like he's as high as sterling.
wow i just checked Skyjacker (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/digitilus/skyjacker?ref=category) and it looks amaAaaAaaAzing. seriously.
you get to see actual combat in the alphaversion and it looks awesome already. loads of screenshots and an amazing customisationfeature for your spaceship. just check it out for yourself
you get to see actual combat in the alphaversion and it looks awesome already. loads of screenshots and an amazing customisationfeature for your spaceship. just check it out for yourself
The entire time I'm reading this I can't help but picture you smoking a pipe while wearing a monocle and top hat as you talk down about these silly Kickstarters.
I don't know if there's any way you can change that as I think the only thing worse is you splooging all over the place, but I can't help but read these and feel like I'm being talked down to as if I can't and don't have a brain when it comes to what Kickstarters I support.
I don't know if there's any way you can change that as I think the only thing worse is you splooging all over the place, but I can't help but read these and feel like I'm being talked down to as if I can't and don't have a brain when it comes to what Kickstarters I support.
@drakengard
Thank god there's someone on the internet to tell me how silly I am for spending money on things though!
Thank god there's someone on the internet to tell me how silly I am for spending money on things though!
There is nothing wrong with kickstarter. People get to put money towards games that they think they will enjoy, and THEY get to determine how much money is put forth. Plus, kickstarter lets the developers be creative and pick how they want to reward their players. Boot Hill Heros might not win game of the year, but I feel great already knowing that I was in control of how much I wanted to put towards it, and that the money I am providing to them will help them finish a project that a lot of people are looking forward to.
See, when you say things like "whether or not this Kickstarter succeeds, this game will get made", then people are less likely to donate to the project. Why back a game that's going to be made anyways? I'm glad that Boot Hill Heroes succeeded regardless of that, though.
Also, I was unable to donate to any of the good Kickstarters you mentioned (not the Mythic project) because I'm tapped out right now. :(
Also, I was unable to donate to any of the good Kickstarters you mentioned (not the Mythic project) because I'm tapped out right now. :(
Republique are looking for way too much money and the limited platforms aren't helping it.
I believe Christian Allen from SerellanLLC summarised what a successful Kickstarter needs:
1. Instant name recognition
2. High quality vid and standards
3. Must not be vague, not be low quality and it must be shown to be unique.
I believe Christian Allen from SerellanLLC summarised what a successful Kickstarter needs:
1. Instant name recognition
2. High quality vid and standards
3. Must not be vague, not be low quality and it must be shown to be unique.
Republique is not an IOS exclusive anymore (for a couple of days actually). There will be a PC/Mac version (not a port, btw).
Grim Dawn is looking pretty awesome, and is getting pretty close to being funded (240k out of 280k with 16 days to go). This one in theory should be a pretty safe bet, as they've already got a good chunk of the work done, but are looking for financial help to hire on some artists and designers full time to build out the world. For those who don't remember this one, it's an open world action rpg being made by a few of the Iron Lore devs who worked on Titan Quest.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/crateentertainment/grim-dawn
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/crateentertainment/grim-dawn
@tristrix
Nothing quite like listening to some asshole prattling on about something with bullshit reasoning, revealing he is completely and utterly disconnected from the field where he's working.
Nothing quite like listening to some asshole prattling on about something with bullshit reasoning, revealing he is completely and utterly disconnected from the field where he's working.
Sadly, banner saga didn't come my way or I probably would have thrown some money in its direction. Not so sad as it did fine. Guess I'll just buy it if its good though would have liked to have been a part. Enjoyed the comments above.
Republique is failing from "delusional kickstarter syndrome." How long do you think this game is going to be $10 on the app store? A month? Three months? Why would you back it when you can wait for it to come out, read a review, and know you're not wasting your $10. If they instead chose to give the game away at a $5 backing, they'd be done by now, and they'd certainly have my $5.
You guys can give the author all the crap you want, but when it comes down to it, he is teaching you how to spot a good and a bad kickstarter. If you take nothing else from these articles, learn what small stuff to look for to be able to judge kickstarters so you don't waste your money.
@ Alistair "the truly original projects fail to meet their goal (see: Republique)."
republique looks like a rip off of 2007 PC game "the experiment":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdIygZeq87E
looks a bit like clock tower too. i'd hardly describe it as "truly original".
anyway the fact remains that kickstarter is about getting games made that people want. i personally don't think it's important how original they are, as long as they look good. that's why although i'm glad you've considered the comments i still think you've got it wrong. you don't need to "cheer up" you just need to develop this a bit more. this series just reads like a personal blog and to be honest when you've not played these games or interviewed the developers etc it just doesn't seem to have much substance. if anything it might have been better to do a more objective piece.
hmm now i think i need to be nicer. better this week anyway, i see you've already blotted your copy book as far as some are concerned but it wouldn't be fair to not give you a chance since you made a point of listening to our criticism.
republique looks like a rip off of 2007 PC game "the experiment":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdIygZeq87E
looks a bit like clock tower too. i'd hardly describe it as "truly original".
anyway the fact remains that kickstarter is about getting games made that people want. i personally don't think it's important how original they are, as long as they look good. that's why although i'm glad you've considered the comments i still think you've got it wrong. you don't need to "cheer up" you just need to develop this a bit more. this series just reads like a personal blog and to be honest when you've not played these games or interviewed the developers etc it just doesn't seem to have much substance. if anything it might have been better to do a more objective piece.
hmm now i think i need to be nicer. better this week anyway, i see you've already blotted your copy book as far as some are concerned but it wouldn't be fair to not give you a chance since you made a point of listening to our criticism.
Eh, too many people here didn't wipe away from the clit. I like this blog. It shows me some kickstarters that I had no clue existed and are now on my radar. That's pretty damn neat to me.
"Allastair is the fellow who declared a pc a glorified Xbox360."
Auwch, there goes all a lot of credibility, along with the sad affair that was the previous blog post in this series (Rage and Wasteland in one sentence, just wow). Sorry bud, but you've got to step up your game.
On a totally unrelated note, Grim Dawn is looking marvellous and I happily payed 15 bucks.
Auwch, there goes all a lot of credibility, along with the sad affair that was the previous blog post in this series (Rage and Wasteland in one sentence, just wow). Sorry bud, but you've got to step up your game.
On a totally unrelated note, Grim Dawn is looking marvellous and I happily payed 15 bucks.
One thing I learned from Kickstarter is "never say never" (thanks Bieber, for ruining this phrase)
For example I followed "Steampunk Holmes", they had something like $1,000 of their $29,000 goal for a very long period of time and a week before the deadline it went up like crazy, now they're on the way to 140% in the last 4,5 hours.
For example I followed "Steampunk Holmes", they had something like $1,000 of their $29,000 goal for a very long period of time and a week before the deadline it went up like crazy, now they're on the way to 140% in the last 4,5 hours.
Okay, look. BHH isn't even out of Alpha stage. I hope you realize that means that they haven't even finished completing the artwork, soundtrack, gameplay/interface, or even the story (people can have their own designed characters added to main story for big enough donations). Yes, I will be backing this, but really now...
Even though I know this isn't going to be a masterpiece, I think they may have something decent going for them here. But yeah, I hope that people faking projects don't go and ruin Kickstarter for everyone!
Even though I know this isn't going to be a masterpiece, I think they may have something decent going for them here. But yeah, I hope that people faking projects don't go and ruin Kickstarter for everyone!
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