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[Editor's note: Brock Janikowski is currently a law school student with an interesting take on the recent ZeniMax scandal. He will be contributing to Destructoid every once and a while with features focusing on the fascinating role law plays in the world of videogames. Also, his name is Brock ... which is awesome. -Chad.]

What is in a name? If you ask indie developer darling Notch or publishing behemoth ZeniMax, they might say it means quite a lot. Mojang v. ZeniMax has kicked off, a trial that will decide the fate of the title for Notch’s upcoming game Scrolls, but many of us are still shaking our heads.

With seemingly so little to gain and so much much money to lose for the parties involved, is ZeniMax really just evil, or is there something more to the story?

You've probably already read the first indications that there is more to the Notch vs. Bethesda debate than angry bloggers may have led folks to believe. Maybe it was a feeling of loyalty to Bethesda or a skepticism over what seemed like an arbitrary attack on Notch.

Regardless of the reason, since the start of this debacle I've felt a need to dig deeper. After all, Bethesda Marketing VP Pete Hines' statement that, "Nobody here enjoys being forced into this," doesn't mean much unless there is actual justification. 

So, putting my legal training to the test, I dove into researching Trademark Law in an effort to understand whether ZeniMax really was an evil corporation crushing the future of gaming under its uncaring heels, or if just maybe there could be another explanation. What I found was that an issue called Trademark Maintenance may indeed be forcing ZeniMax’s hand.

Trademark Law is traditionally all about protecting consumers from being confused as to the origin or composition of a product. If a trademark holder takes the time to make a mark famous, others aren’t allowed to leech off that success. Therefore, if a court finds that consumers might be confused by the name of a new product, a court may find that the name infringes on the trademark holder’s mark and can therefore not be used. Once a trademark holder establishes its mark though, it has to maintain the mark.

Part of Trademark Maintenance is the idea that a trademark holder must “police” its mark. If ZeniMax becomes aware another developer might be infringing upon its marks, it must address the issue, possibly by sending a letter and asking the developer to stop using the mark, or failing that, by taking the developer to court. If ZeniMax, or any corporation in this situation does nothing, a future court may find that a trademark has become “diluted” and is therefore not deserving of trademark protection.

This tends to lead to some rather ridiculous cases for companies with famous trademarks; McDonalds for example has a long history of suing the "little guy" for using names that might be "confusingly similar." Just a few cases include a man named Norman McDonald who was forced to change the name of his restaurant, and another man by the name of McAllan who won a case brought against him for opening a restaurant under his name. 

ZeniMax has stated that they believe consumers could potentially be confused by the similarity between The Elder Scrolls mark and Notch’s Scrolls. Is ZeniMax truly worried that people won’t be able to tell the difference? Possibly, but even if the company has little fear of such confusion, allowing Scrolls to slide by could create an unfortunate precedent should a larger, future trademark issue arise. 


Keep in mind as well that Notch's offer to change or alter the Scrolls name doesn't count for much in this case. If Scrolls became Scrolls: Insert Sub-Title Here the potentially confusing word "scrolls" still exists. In fact, adding something to Scrolls might make is seem even more similar to The Elder Scrolls. The only thing that would truly end this case would be Notch dropping the Scrolls title altogether, an option Notch and Mojang have yet to offer.

But Scrolls will most likely be a niche game with a niche audience, so then why spend all this time and money to litigate a case against a poor indie developer? It’s the reality of Trademark Law. If you don’t make efforts to maintain your mark, you may lose your mark.

I believe that Bethesda and ZeinMax are taking very little joy in this litigation, but if they are worried about the long-term survivability of The Elder Scrolls mark, the companies may well feel they have no choice but to take Notch to court. Whether or not this is right, or whether Trademark Law should be revised to avoid “trademark maintenance” litigation are entirely relevant questions to ask, but this case won’t be addressing these issues.

So is ZeniMax evil? I personally don’t think so, but that determination is up for debate. I think the company is following what is ultimately an unfortunate aspect of Trademark Law and Notch is suffering as a result. Maybe adherence to this flawed system still makes ZeniMax evil, but if it were a choice between potentially losing your ability to protect your famous trademark and suing an indie developer, what would you do?








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PinkRanger's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 16:06
PinkRanger
Andy preety much just summed it up.
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 16:07
Mr Andy Dixon
Very interesting read!
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 16:10
mix
Thanks for the clearing this up, very informative!
Retrofraction's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 16:12
Retrofraction
just wait till I flood the internet with the next big scrolls game
Chongomaster's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 16:15
Chongomaster
I was hoping for someone to clear this up. I personally think it's a necessary evil to protect The Elder Scrolls franchise. It also really annoys me when people say that Mojang are a "small-time indie dev" as if making an indie behemoth isn't significant.
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 16:15
Mr Andy Dixon
Thunder Monti with, as always, a piercing rebuttal.
misterkatamari's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 16:16
misterkatamari
Well, I think the issue is that they sort of don't need to win this case. They just needed to show their intent to protect their brand. Even if they lose the case, they keep the integrity of the Elder Scrolls brand for any blatant rip offs.

So are they evil? Nah, no more than any large gaming company is now a day. (Aside from the evil overlords, EA & Activision, of course.) It isn't evil, it's just rather ridiculous that they are forced to do this to protect their brand. So yeah, it's a silly suit.
GoodGuyA's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 16:16
GoodGuyA
Here's the issue:

They know they're wrong, they were offered a settlement out of court, they basically backed Notch into a corner before starting up the lawsuit in order to see if he'd bail out early, there is a clear understanding from Notch that he didn't know he was infringing in the first place, and ignoring this does not cease validity of taking down actual infringements on the license.

All signs point to Zenimax's lawyers blatantly ignoring the outer regions of this case to make a buck.
Chongomaster's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 16:20
Chongomaster
@Monti
I can barely tell what you're saying but I think "alien" is too generic to copyright.
ran24's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 16:20
ran24
It's still bullshit.

The word "scrolls" by itself doesn't mean anything to gamers. The combination of "Elder" and "Scrolls" is what creates the brand recognition. Scrolls by itself does not have imply a connection with the elder scrolls brand.
Pencoin's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 16:24
Pencoin
I don't know who this Brock guy is (Maybe he's voice by Nolan North.) but I like him already.
Havoc Fang's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 16:24
Havoc Fang
Y'know, I distinctly remember Notch saying he would change the name at one point, only for them to 'deny', egging him on to keep it.

Maybe I'm wrong. But, eh. I'm with him. Law VS Common Sense, go.
Conrad Zimmerman's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 16:26
Conrad Zimmerman
Same stuff I've been saying since the conflict first arose. This is legal wrangling, the sort that has to happen. Regrettable, but it's the only way the system can function and protect the interests of businesses and consumers.
sqlrob's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 16:30
sqlrob
You are required to police, but couldn't they have resolved this amicably with a (cheap) license?
32BitSin's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 16:30
32BitSin
What Monti said made me think of this:
Xeon121's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 16:31
Xeon121
Great read
@monti you are jim sterling in disguise I'm fucking sure off it.
markcocjin's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 16:33
markcocjin
Who cares. Notch is a rich guy. And his game isn't even out of Beta yet. He's richer than any single person who develops Elder Scrolls.
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 16:37
Mr Andy Dixon
@Xeon121

I was thinking the same thing!
Xeon121's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 16:41
Xeon121
Lay off the sauce Jim.
ScottyG's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 16:45
ScottyG
Mojang should rename Scrolls to one of the following:
- Sky Rims
- Beyond Oblivion
- Older Scrolls
- Fallout Through The Sky's Rim
- Zenimax Said We Can't Just Call This "Scrolls"
- etc
Shiron's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 16:48
Shiron
@ran24: Pretty much. What ZeniMax has a trademark on is "The Elder Scrolls", not the individual word "Scrolls". I highly doubt not having gone after a game which shares one word in common would make a judge order them to lose a trademark on The Elder Scrolls, since they never had a trademark on the words separately to begin with. If that were the case, why aren't/weren't entities like Office Max and Office Depot, Coca Cola and RC Cola, Toys R Us and K.B. Toys, Champs Sports and Dick's Sporting Goods, etc, constantly duking it out to defend their trademarks? If those entities like those can co-exist, which are much more similar, without their trademarks being revoked, I really don't see how Zenimax would be in danger of losing their "The Elder Scrolls" trademark by not suing Mojang over Scrolls--it seems to only be an issue because they made it one, as far as I can tell.
Nathan Champion's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 16:51
Nathan Champion
I'm no legal scholar, but all Elder Scrolls titles seem to place more emphasis on their subtitles than the words "Elder Scrolls." I wonder if this could be used against ZeniMax.
Street Flighter's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 17:02
Street Flighter
So my game about my grandma, The Older Strolls: Vivian, won't ever get off the ground?
Pacopaco's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 17:04
Pacopaco
Yeah, I can't really go as far as demonizing ZeniMax for doing this but I will gladly demonize portions of the U.S. copyright laws.

Still like Notch more, though.
pokota's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 17:06
pokota
I cannot blame Bethesda. This is business. If they win, it's a big plus for them, as it sets a precedent that could protect them from much worse infringements.

As far as the idea that they should only object if "Elder Scrolls" is copied, keep in mind that "Elder" is only a modifier, and one that is easy to get around. Another company could make a very viable knock-off with titles like "Ancient Scrolls" or "Older Scrolls". "Scrolls" is obviously the important word, not "Elder".
Enzi's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 17:08
Enzi
Fucking suits getting money for projecting that the whole consumerbase is fucking stupid and can't tell the difference between Scrolls and The Elder Scrolls. Newsflash, we can. We can read and our attention span isn't 0.5-0.8 seconds.

Sometimes I hate this world...
Cainraw's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 17:12
Cainraw
@Thunder Monti

No one can tell what point you are trying to get across, and more importantly,no one cares.
TrevHead's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 17:13
TrevHead
Ppl love to call big corps evil but in this case it isnt true imo.

Btw I wonder just how much cash Notch is forking out for the court case vs all the extra sales he'll get from all the press he is getting. Even if he loses the Scrolls name everybody is gonna know what the new title is.
arkane9's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 17:15
arkane9
Excuse my ignorance on the subject, but since Mojang is a Swedish company (right?) how can Zenimax sue Mojang when Mojang only sells its games over the international waters known as teh interwebs?

Also, if the case is brought up before a Swedish court, I still have hope for Mojang. The law system there doesn't seem as crazy as in the US.
Street Flighter's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 17:15
Street Flighter
@Thunder Monti

Stop referring to 'us readers' like we're all with you, and don't think you're a robot body for Jim Sterling that's breaking down.
ScottyG's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 17:15
ScottyG
Also, I'm dating myself here but this is just as dumb as the "bald guy and a girl with a ponytail" lawsuit Epic had against Id.

Oh people, never learning from dumb mistakes...
Shiron's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 17:21
Shiron
@pokota: Even if what you say is true, that still doesn't actually seem to hold true though. Why aren't Capcom and SNK having a legal fight over Street Fighter and King of Fighters then, since Fighter is the operative word in both cases, especially since both series are actually in direct competition with each other in that case? How did Bandai Namco and Nintendo ever deal with Digimon/Pokemon without killing each other? And other video game examples (that are slightly less similar, but still have as much to do with each other as TES and Scrolls do), like despite having made Chrono Trigger, Square Enix seems to have let Arc System Works off the hook on BlazBlue: Calamity Trigger (and for the other half, they don't seem to have bothered EnjoyUp games about Chronos Twins). Oh, and Nintendo and Microsoft/Rare seem to be quite fine with Wii Sports (Resort) and Kinect Sports co-existing. If these type of games can co-exist, I really don't see why The Elder Scrolls and Scrolls can't, and why Zenimax actually feels the need to take this to court. I can't see how this is an actual necessity to defend their trademark.
pokota's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 17:23
pokota
@arkane9

Sweden is most likely a participant in the same copyright agreements as the U.S., possibly the Berne Convention, but I'm not sure about that.
Tristrix's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 17:27
Tristrix
I love how people in the comments think they know better than the law student who actually researched this.
Achromatis's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 17:31
Achromatis
@Thunder Monti

Get off your high horse and stop acting as if you are representing me, that is when I can understand what the fuck you are even saying. As a reader I dont even consider what Zenimax is doing as a necessary "evil", its just necessary.
Harbinger o Deth's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 17:34
Harbinger o Deth
Not as evil as EA, Activision or the Sith Empire(Apple).
Lucky Pierre's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 17:36
Lucky Pierre
@ Shiron

Zenimax can't risk losing their trademark which is worth millions of dollars. Trademark law is really dense, difficult, and nonsensical. It makes more sense to litigate the issue than to not litigate it and risk losing their trademark. You list Bandai Namco and Capcom, which are both Japanese companies, and if I am not mistaken, Japanese trademark law is significantly different than U.S. TM law.

There are constant issues with US companies having their trademarks infringed upon by Chinese companies with little recourse because of Chinese trademark laws and the way that the laws are interpreted in these countries.

The Kinect Sports and Wii sports examples are a wash because the word "sports" has been interpreted to be basically public domain, you can't trademark the word sports, but a phrase involving sports could be trademarked. Of course the word Wii is proprietary for nintendo and Kinect is Tm'd by microsoft, so if Nintendo were to make Kinect Sports I would guess there would be an issue.
pokota's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 17:41
pokota
@Shiron
I'm not saying that Bethesda will win, or even should win, just that I can't blame them for trying. As for the other games you mentioned, each case is different, and copyright law is complex.

Regarding Japan, though, I can say that they are often pretty lax about copyrights, because of the HUGE fanworks industry they have over there. Well, except for Nintendo, I think, they can be pretty strict.
Chongomaster's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 17:44
Chongomaster
@Xeon121
I haz evidence to back you up!

Blahblahblahblah's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 17:46
Blahblahblahblah
Who gives a shit.
BoomingEchoes's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 17:46
BoomingEchoes
"few cases include a man named Norman McDonald"

I'm almost inclined to ask if Norm McDonald also sued this guy for his name, also. I could could just see that headline 'Norm McDonald sues man over name, Not being funny' ....Poor guy, lol.

"Keep in mind as well that Notch's offer to change or alter the Scrolls name doesn't count for much in this case."

So wait, that offer to change the name wasn't to change the name completely? Cause I was under the impression it was and Zenimax was still going ahead with the suit any way, because they had too for all this brand crud.

"It’s the reality of Trademark Law. If you don’t make efforts to maintain your mark, you may lose your mark."

I'm going to sound like one of "those people" but It sounds like the reality of Trademark Law is to litigate those with less money into the ground so they have no choice but to quit and/or completely lose their business (while keeping those lawyers well compensated doing ALL that legal work they must do in this field, mind you). Which is what people are worried about more then anything for Notch in this case.

It doesn't matter if ZeniMax likes that they have to do it or not, the fact of the matter is we, as a people, have let things like this get stupidly out of hand.

I don't think ZeniMax is evil, they have to do what they have to do, but the law itself is leaning pretty heavy towards it.

Also, yeah, we're worried about Notch and all, but has their been any actual word he's even suffering at all yet? This has just started, and while it sucks, and puts a hamper on things, I'd wait to hear more concrete word that he's suffering from all this before we jump off that deep end.

As for the last question: I wouldn't sue him, because its obvious they know its ridiculous they have to do it, too. I'd suffer the Scrolls name, and if it came up at any point that the court says it may have diluted my trademark, I'd make it pretty well known that the there's no possible way that this name , or this game, could ever be confused with mind.

If the courts won't take that as enough evidence that the trademark isn't diluted enough for it to matter, and no other reports come in that people got confused for GOOD reason, then the problem is obviously with the courts and the laws, which all of this points to in the first place.

Then again, this is also why I don't have a trademark, nor a company that has any -and probably never will.
Xeon121's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 17:47
Xeon121
@chongomaster

Hahaha I knew it! Indisputable evidence.
Ryan leps's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 17:55
Ryan leps
@Chongomaster

That is very funny ! :)
pokota's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 17:59
pokota
@BoomingEchoes
"I'm going to sound like one of "those people" but It sounds like the reality of Trademark Law is to litigate those with less money into the ground so they have no choice but to quit and/or completely lose their business (while keeping those lawyers well compensated doing ALL that legal work they must do in this field, mind you). Which is what people are worried about more then anything for Notch in this case."

While this obviously does happen, don't forget the other side of the equation, small "copyright trolls" who really exist for no other purpose except to sue larger companies for damages AFTER they use a certain name. See the word "Edge" for more details on that.

This is similar to "patent trolls". There are important technologies being held up simply because large companies are afraid patent trolls are waiting in the wings, ready to sue after a product goes to market. Look at all the trouble HTML5 video support is having in that regard.
mollygos's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 18:02
mollygos
Well that's pretty interesting. If that's all accurate than the situation makes a teeny bit of sense.

Thanks for doing the research, Brock.
Gorescream's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 18:13
Gorescream
Dat research.

Well done Brockzorz
Syn's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 18:19
Syn
I wasn't even aware there was a ridiculous law like that, although I can see why some may consider it relevant.

But, as with most laws that are based around people being stupid (see Electoral College) it has become obsolete (at least in its current form) with the bottom-end level stupidity rising to that of complete moron rather than stupid monkey.

People are still a LOT dumber than they should be, but not nearly as stupid as they used to be.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 18:21
mix
@Chongomaster

34.45%....seriously? You have to be crazy to not think it would be at LEAST 40%

IMA RAGE IN MY CAGE!
KCalder's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2011 18:32
KCalder
It all just seems so arbitrary as to what infringes and what doesn't.

And when you get down to it, it is arbitrary. The law is a long series of contrivances and shoving matches that only controls culture as a result of our believing it is something more concrete than that.
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