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I want this game to come out, and I want it to shatter expectations and be the greatest game made in the last ten years. (Oh, irony).
Mostly because I want to see Jim Sterling kiss Dennis Dyack on the ass.
Mostly because I want to see Jim Sterling kiss Dennis Dyack on the ass.
i bought the first one (pre ordered to boot)... what a mistake that was. Worst sixty five dollars i've spent.
Did this game actually do well enough to warrant a sequel?
I tried it out on a friend's console a couple months ago and thought it had some of the worst controls and camera that I had ever seen in an action game.
I tried it out on a friend's console a couple months ago and thought it had some of the worst controls and camera that I had ever seen in an action game.
Experience on a wide range of systems because they want them to be able to handle the game being in development for another 10 years.
If the original game had good controls and a good camera system then the game would have been awesome. The game and story was pretty good, just the control and camera that made it unplayable.
Well, who knows? The game got butchered so much that they're guarranteed to have learned from their mistakes. It can't possibly get any worse, thats for sure.
Aside from the fact that it's butchering Norse mythology, the game is built around an interesting concept.
Aside from the fact that it's butchering Norse mythology, the game is built around an interesting concept.
Too Human wasn't THAT bad. Sure it wasn't a great by any means, but it wasn't terrible. The controls were weird and the camera was just plain bad. The worst part of the game was the overbalance of the enemies. Every level you gained and every armor piece you got the enemies would level up to the same stats as you, making leveling up pointless.
I loved the whole Nordic-cyberpunk setting though. And hell, even some of the melee combat was fun.
I loved the whole Nordic-cyberpunk setting though. And hell, even some of the melee combat was fun.
Too Human 2, sounds like what SK need for gamers to completely forget that they were an excellent studio capable of producing jewels like Eternal Darkness. How About Eternal Darkness 2, huh SK? that would be far more worthy of a sequel
Ok yes the camera was terrible, but did anyone here try playing as a beserker? once you maxed the dash distance it was an incredibly fun game, jumping from pile to pile of enemies. Oh and the item collecting...
anyway stop pooing on the game. some things were flawed but if they manage to fix those and add a more friendly co-op system it could be fantastic.
anyway stop pooing on the game. some things were flawed but if they manage to fix those and add a more friendly co-op system it could be fantastic.
Too Human wasn't worth the hype and it was definitely flawed as fuck but it really wasn't that bad. I dare say I even enjoyed it (probably because I was a defender and I only died maybe 3 times total) and I wouldn't mind seeing what else was planned for that story. I just hope they do a much better job next time.
@Arch649
I have to agree with u. I know a lot of people didnt like it but under the shit graphics and the pretty crap story telling and the menu /ui system *which looked like it was bolted on at the end while they were all on crack* was an alright game.
Actually i still play it with my mate every now and then. I think the reviews were right with what they said BUT there quite a bit of jumping on the bandwagon to say the game is shit cause eveyone else says so.
Shame really
I have to agree with u. I know a lot of people didnt like it but under the shit graphics and the pretty crap story telling and the menu /ui system *which looked like it was bolted on at the end while they were all on crack* was an alright game.
Actually i still play it with my mate every now and then. I think the reviews were right with what they said BUT there quite a bit of jumping on the bandwagon to say the game is shit cause eveyone else says so.
Shame really
I have to say I liked Too Human and I'm intrigued by what Loki is going to be up to in the sequel(s).
Weren't the sales numbers ultimately pretty good because of Microsoft's hype machine? It wouldn't surprise me to discover Dyack was pushing hard for a sequel to his bad game. Pretty sure any chance of an Eternal Darkness follow up is zero for as long as SK are working on HD platforms - Nintendo holds the patents for several of the gameplay systems (at the very least, we know they definitely have one on the sanity meter).
Patents seem to be a recurring theme this week!
Patents seem to be a recurring theme this week!
They should just call it 2 Human if it ends up existing. Too Human 2 is just too redundant to be saying all the time with all the different types of "two" that you can use.
Upon further pondering I am thinking that "Two Human" might be the most appropriate name for the piece of shit game that I hope doesn't exist.
I bought the first for £10 a while back and enjoyed it, but only because it was at the price i got it for, a second could be fun if they sorted out all the stuff wrong with the first
They've talked about how Too Human is meant to be a trilogy in the past, and the first one sold okay, right? I don't think there is much hope that Too Human 2 isn't being worked on right now.
Too Human wasn't terrible but it also wasn't very good. I think the most obvious flaw it had were the obnoxious controls. I say "obnoxious" because...
"... what we're also seeing is for the people who don't like it, generally just don't get it. And it's because we've created something so innovative and different." (Denis Dyack, regarding the negative reaction to the XBLA demo, 2008.)
Taken from http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/dyack-too-human-haters-just-get-it/?biz=1.
It's not that we don't "get it", Mr Dyack. It's that it's a bit crap.
Oh, and the virtual reality stuff? Awful, just awful.
And to make things worse, it doesn't seem he's learned his lesson AT ALL:
"If games are to follow the trajectory of films, then the dominance of gameplay will diminish in place of an increased focus and importance on gaming’s stories and the ways in which they are told..." (Denis Dyack on why gameplay isn't everything, 2009)
Source: http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=24450
I mean, he's not talking total shit. I agree that graphics, music, dialogue, etc. can really contribute to telling a game's story. But what's the one ace-in-the-whole that gaming has and all other media he's mentioned doesn't? Gameplay. The fact that we are a part of the story, and shape it, is what gives video games the potential to do something different from films and literature. If you want to tell a story, you put the gameplay front and centre. Otherwise you may as well just direct a film or write a book.
"... what we're also seeing is for the people who don't like it, generally just don't get it. And it's because we've created something so innovative and different." (Denis Dyack, regarding the negative reaction to the XBLA demo, 2008.)
Taken from http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/dyack-too-human-haters-just-get-it/?biz=1.
It's not that we don't "get it", Mr Dyack. It's that it's a bit crap.
Oh, and the virtual reality stuff? Awful, just awful.
And to make things worse, it doesn't seem he's learned his lesson AT ALL:
"If games are to follow the trajectory of films, then the dominance of gameplay will diminish in place of an increased focus and importance on gaming’s stories and the ways in which they are told..." (Denis Dyack on why gameplay isn't everything, 2009)
Source: http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=24450
I mean, he's not talking total shit. I agree that graphics, music, dialogue, etc. can really contribute to telling a game's story. But what's the one ace-in-the-whole that gaming has and all other media he's mentioned doesn't? Gameplay. The fact that we are a part of the story, and shape it, is what gives video games the potential to do something different from films and literature. If you want to tell a story, you put the gameplay front and centre. Otherwise you may as well just direct a film or write a book.
You know what they should do? Release all 3 Too Human games on one disk (or 3) and do a complete overhaul. It had potential, but it failed to live up to the hype it created for itself. This probaly won't happen.
I'm with Arch649,
If they fix the, admittedly numerous, problems from the first game I certainly wouldn't mind seeing a sequel. I, for example, actually rather liked the control for the game (camera excluded) and the cyber punk Norse mythology was definitely a selling point - as was the story. The key problem I found was the death animation and repetitive gameplay - the gameplay was for the most part enjoyable but it needed something to break it up. All this said I'd prefer a sequel to Eternal Darkness though, absolutely loved that game - and I'm not usually keen on survival horror.
Additional: Wasn't this announced as a trilogy anyway?
If they fix the, admittedly numerous, problems from the first game I certainly wouldn't mind seeing a sequel. I, for example, actually rather liked the control for the game (camera excluded) and the cyber punk Norse mythology was definitely a selling point - as was the story. The key problem I found was the death animation and repetitive gameplay - the gameplay was for the most part enjoyable but it needed something to break it up. All this said I'd prefer a sequel to Eternal Darkness though, absolutely loved that game - and I'm not usually keen on survival horror.
Additional: Wasn't this announced as a trilogy anyway?
Remember all that smack talk from the developer about Too Human going to be great? Where's he now? Probably eating some humble pie.
Wait, what? Sorry I was too distracted by this AMAZING unskippable death animation. I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't want to watch this over and over and over again.
As someone who actually played this game and enjoyed it for what it was (a decent-playing action RPG with fun weapons and good enough story), I'm actually looking forward to this. The game ended on too much of a cliffhanger for there not to be a sequel.
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