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You should have worn bright neon stuff and chucked around glow stick but you have a good point! You also reminded me that I have yet to even play my copy of Enslaved...I need to get on that shit.
2D games like Monkey Island still look very good. But look at the 3D games from years after the 2D adventure generation. They look so ugly.
Yes, color is very important! I actually put together a little .jpg of Dungeon Defenders, Trine 2, and Sonic Generations last winter. All three make such wonderful use of color that it made me realize just how drab many games are. I think I have a copy of Viva Pinata somewhere, too... time to check that shit out.
And by this standard Torchlight II's graphics will probably be better than Diablo III's lol.
And by this standard Torchlight II's graphics will probably be better than Diablo III's lol.
Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts is a million times more colorful, and varied than Viva Pinata. I don't know how anyone can say Viva Pinata is the best looking game this generation, especially since Nuts and Bolts does everything Pinata does, only 6 bajillion times better in every single way.
Just wait till we get all the first-party stuff on the Wii U, we'll have wonderful HD colours out the ass.
@Jinx 01:
I don't know, man.
Dungeon Defenders seem to take it a bit too far. Trine and Sonic looked great, the colors fit in. Dungeon Defender just seems like a blast of rainbow paint.
I don't know, man.
Dungeon Defenders seem to take it a bit too far. Trine and Sonic looked great, the colors fit in. Dungeon Defender just seems like a blast of rainbow paint.
Excellent video, Jim! I can't agree with you more on this one!
To this day, I still think those SNES games that made use of a vibrant palette are still amazing looking games.
To this day, I still think those SNES games that made use of a vibrant palette are still amazing looking games.
The only thing missing from many Wii games from being "best looking of this generation is the non-HD resolution. I guess lots of 12 year olds don't really understand the concept.
This is why the debate over "power" of the Wii U is beyond retarded. Its Nintendo art direction in HD. It will look lovely.
Not sure what the best looking game of this generation is, but it sure isn't Call of Duty, or any other generic shooter with TUFF DOODS.
This is why the debate over "power" of the Wii U is beyond retarded. Its Nintendo art direction in HD. It will look lovely.
Not sure what the best looking game of this generation is, but it sure isn't Call of Duty, or any other generic shooter with TUFF DOODS.
Ah, I loved Dungeon Defenders, though. It has a very specific and consistent art style and the colors fit that. Though it does sort of give you cavities just looking at it.
STYLE. That's part of the problem with purely 'realistic' graphics. No room for a consistent, unifying art style - because you're trying to exorcise the art out of it. Though a few games like The Witcher 2 manage to do it all.
I liked the Borderlands example, too (it's not cell-shaded, though). Borderlands 2 looks much more colorful, looking forward to it.
STYLE. That's part of the problem with purely 'realistic' graphics. No room for a consistent, unifying art style - because you're trying to exorcise the art out of it. Though a few games like The Witcher 2 manage to do it all.
I liked the Borderlands example, too (it's not cell-shaded, though). Borderlands 2 looks much more colorful, looking forward to it.
Indeed Cell shading and bright colors ftw, I would even argue although to a lesser degree that on pc battlefield bad company 2 looks better than battlefield 3 just because the colors are more distinct and not that blue shade Overly present in bf3. When I just started replaying wii and gamecube games on an emulator upscalling them to 1080p, giving them some modern anti aliasing I started to notice again how pretty are Red Steel or a Super Mario Galaxy can be. There are also some awesome 2d games this generation that also look very pretty like Braid or Machinarium
On the Other hand to a more grim tone Dear Esther looks amazing While I for one would not call it a game more a short movie where you walk around it still looks amazing. All because of artistic design and atmosphere, running on one of the less graphically impressive engines the source engine.
totally agree with the point of this video. when i played tales of graces, the whole time i was thinking "look at all the colors!". speaking of which where the fuck was tales of graces f's dtoid review? it's easily the best game i've played this year.
Can't really disagree with you. Of course, most of this is all subjective, but games like MvC3, Viva Pinata, and Blazblue do look undeniably incredible because of all the color on the screen.
For me, I've always liked Timesplitters 2 and Future Perfect in terms of visuals, not so much because they have a fair bit of color, but because the animation and art style are distinctive and, to me, timeless. I can still bear to look at the cutscenes in those games because of the animation and art(along with the appropriate voice work) and say it's still just as entertaining to watch as it is to play. In my opinion, great SD animation in Timesplitters conveys so much more than a HD furrowed brow in Mass Effect.
For me, I've always liked Timesplitters 2 and Future Perfect in terms of visuals, not so much because they have a fair bit of color, but because the animation and art style are distinctive and, to me, timeless. I can still bear to look at the cutscenes in those games because of the animation and art(along with the appropriate voice work) and say it's still just as entertaining to watch as it is to play. In my opinion, great SD animation in Timesplitters conveys so much more than a HD furrowed brow in Mass Effect.
I still hold Legend of Zelda Wind Waker as the best looking cel-shaded game of all time. The only game I thing comes close is Ni no Kuni. Great video (and music)!
Almost 70 posts and no mention of Eternal Sonata? It's like you guys don't even like color.
Honorable mentions to Mirror's Edge and PixelJunk Eden, another two games that were just undeniably beautiful because of the use of vibrant colors.
Honorable mentions to Mirror's Edge and PixelJunk Eden, another two games that were just undeniably beautiful because of the use of vibrant colors.
I'm a cel-shaded graphics whore.
Though I have to disagree about XIII, I was playing it a few weeks ago and it doesn't look that great visually.
Though I have to disagree about XIII, I was playing it a few weeks ago and it doesn't look that great visually.
I am going to count the vita in this hd race now. Which brings up, when i show off my vita, it's not uncharted i show, it is Rayman origins. that is the most beautiful game i have played in a long long time
I do think that the Uncharted games... well 2 and 3, will age fairly well because even though they are quite detailed, they are not really realistic looking. Yeah the people are proportioned realistically and all that jazz but the characters are drawn in pretty broad strokes, and that generally holds up fairly well. Looking back at Tot Story 1 versus Toy Story 3, it clearly does not look any where near as nice, but you would be hard pressed to notice without them being played right next to each other.
Could have picked any game with a great color palette (and there are a fuck ton of them this generation), but you picked Viva Pinata. Why? The same reason why Jim Sterling does EVERYTHING on this site:
To try and be "edgy". It's the same reason why most of your reviews average 3 points below Metacrtic just "coincidentally".
Also: your argument is bullshit. If you think that dirt, dust, grime, destruction, stone, blood, rust, mud, and a plethora of other effects on the darker side of the color palette can't show of what a game's hardware or a display is capable of, you're fucking kidding yourself. Uncharted did both.
Oh yea. Uncharted. Go play those games again. Beautiful jungles *and* the dirt and grime of your typical military shooter. Wide color palette. Great effects. But you can't pick that, because then you have no "hook" for your little videos. That's not "edgy", is it?
To try and be "edgy". It's the same reason why most of your reviews average 3 points below Metacrtic just "coincidentally".
Also: your argument is bullshit. If you think that dirt, dust, grime, destruction, stone, blood, rust, mud, and a plethora of other effects on the darker side of the color palette can't show of what a game's hardware or a display is capable of, you're fucking kidding yourself. Uncharted did both.
Oh yea. Uncharted. Go play those games again. Beautiful jungles *and* the dirt and grime of your typical military shooter. Wide color palette. Great effects. But you can't pick that, because then you have no "hook" for your little videos. That's not "edgy", is it?
As a man who prefers his walls white and unadorned I have to respectfully disagree. Certainly you must realize that your preference for vibrant colors is simply that, a preference. I personally find beauty in bleakness (perhaps that is a byproduct of being raised where I was), and I can't imagine I am the only one. Although I do have to admit that Pinata was a very good looking game. As for the hands down best looking game, I couldn't be arsed to narrow it down, but it certainly isn't Pinata for me. Some of us *like* brown and grey.
I have to admit, the reason for me upgrading to Blu-Ray wasn't a movie like Avatar or anything like that. It was Jackass 3.
And while we're admitting things, I will admit that even for a drab colored game for dude-bro shooting, the graphics in CoD are really good just for how smoothly they run.
And while we're admitting things, I will admit that even for a drab colored game for dude-bro shooting, the graphics in CoD are really good just for how smoothly they run.
I completely agree with this video, except for maybe Viva Pinata as your choice. It's a great example of how great colors can bring great visuals, but I think Rayman Origins is a better example of the kind of artistic beauty HD graphics can bring to the table.
Journey certainly deserved a mention. Certainly one of the most artistically impressive HD games this generation. I really like the look of Diablo 3, Bastion, Dark Souls(Anor Londos exteriors are breath taking), and Sine Mora are all great HD res games.
None the less, I'm totally with Jim on the need for more color and artistic grace in games. Can't wait till Vanillaware drops an HD bomb.
None the less, I'm totally with Jim on the need for more color and artistic grace in games. Can't wait till Vanillaware drops an HD bomb.
bro muramasa the demon blade is best looking game this gen and its wii. i all seriousness i can't stand realistic looking games give me cartoon,anime,colorful stuff anyday.
This is an issues that has pissed me off all generation.
I wanted my jet grind radios, my zone of the enders, my awesome visual stylings this generation, but instead we kept getting people going after realism.
While like you, i appreciate realism, most games simply can't do a good enough job.
It's a much better idea, artistically at least (sells would argue against it) to make something notable and cohesive.
Unfortunately there's an awesome problem with the masses that as soon as somethings bright and colorful gets noted as "childish."
Which is fucking stupid.
Whats child is disregarding a game because of its color scheme.
I start school to hopefully take a step towards game design career in a few months, and I really, truly hope that this is either a non issue, or i can at least do something that i can put tons of colors in.
I fucking love color.
Also jim, and i really do hope you see this, You want a great testament to bluray?
Up! and Speed Racer are fucking PHENOMENAL on bluray. (imo, most cg shows, how to train your dragon, Kung fu panda, etc. are amazing in bluray and the best testament to how good it can look.)
I wanted my jet grind radios, my zone of the enders, my awesome visual stylings this generation, but instead we kept getting people going after realism.
While like you, i appreciate realism, most games simply can't do a good enough job.
It's a much better idea, artistically at least (sells would argue against it) to make something notable and cohesive.
Unfortunately there's an awesome problem with the masses that as soon as somethings bright and colorful gets noted as "childish."
Which is fucking stupid.
Whats child is disregarding a game because of its color scheme.
I start school to hopefully take a step towards game design career in a few months, and I really, truly hope that this is either a non issue, or i can at least do something that i can put tons of colors in.
I fucking love color.
Also jim, and i really do hope you see this, You want a great testament to bluray?
Up! and Speed Racer are fucking PHENOMENAL on bluray. (imo, most cg shows, how to train your dragon, Kung fu panda, etc. are amazing in bluray and the best testament to how good it can look.)
Muramasa, Journey, Rayman: Origins and UMvC3 get my vote for this gen. Also I've been playing Persona 3: FES a lot lately and that game is still gorgeous today.
@Swanny: Dude... Tron Legacy on Bluray also. Pixars stuff, Tintin and Tron blow me away when I watch them.
I love how I called it before I watched it.
Also, I of course agree. Colors are why you see pictures of hd tvs showing nature, lots and lots of nature.
Also, I of course agree. Colors are why you see pictures of hd tvs showing nature, lots and lots of nature.
Though I must say the Valkyria Chronicles or Borderlands 2 (When it comes out) give Viva Piņata a run for it's money.
I would say Rock of Age. Mix of old real painting + new medium is SO GOOD.
The first boss with the green dragon, it's soooo beautiful !
The first boss with the green dragon, it's soooo beautiful !
@kingsharkboi
If you have a pc with a fair gpu, and a high end cpu overclocked a bit they all can be in full 1080p with anti aliasing, and such as a bonus.
If you have a pc with a fair gpu, and a high end cpu overclocked a bit they all can be in full 1080p with anti aliasing, and such as a bonus.
It depends on your personal preferences really (and I think it might even be a genetical thing).
Some games benefit greatly from looking realistic like Racing Games, Shooters and Sportsgames because there you have gamemechanics that simulate the real world and try to immerse you in that realistic environment stimulating your high detail perception and sense of orientation (back of your brain - burning fat when your body is alcaline), while other games benefit from a more abstract artstyle because it allows for a better overview and thus supports more complex, abstract gamemechanics which challenge your analytical processor (frontal cortex of your brain - burning carbs even if your body is acidic).
Some games benefit greatly from looking realistic like Racing Games, Shooters and Sportsgames because there you have gamemechanics that simulate the real world and try to immerse you in that realistic environment stimulating your high detail perception and sense of orientation (back of your brain - burning fat when your body is alcaline), while other games benefit from a more abstract artstyle because it allows for a better overview and thus supports more complex, abstract gamemechanics which challenge your analytical processor (frontal cortex of your brain - burning carbs even if your body is acidic).
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I think that Jim is an acidic person, if he would eat more alkaline foods he would burn fat more efficiently and might enjoy realistic graphics a bit more.
I think that Jim is an acidic person, if he would eat more alkaline foods he would burn fat more efficiently and might enjoy realistic graphics a bit more.
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