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Jensen admits he was 'wrong' about Epic Yarn photo

Entertainment Weekly's Jeff Jensen caught quite a bit of heat for claiming that Kirby's Epic Yarn was the worst game of 2010 because it was too cute. In a year that had technically deficient games, poorly designed games like The Scourge Project, Jensen's justification was flimsy. He has now admitted it. 

The sad thing is, Jensen's new column on the subject is actually really well-reasoned. He still claims that Kirby's Epic Yarn isn't good, and while I disagree, I respect his views. He thinks it's too cute, he didn't dig the fact that it was "easy" and he thinks it's overrated. It's a well-written piece and he's clearly a smart guy who knows his stuff. 

Unfortunately, he says that he doesn't really think it was the worst game of 2010, and that he "hoped to use [his] “Worst” entry to provoke debate about cutesyness?" Having a controversial opinion is great, but when you don't properly back it up and then admit you were sacrificing a game to make a point about something else, then it kind of ruins your angle entirely.

That Jensen disliked Kirby's Epic Yarn wasn't the problem. It was that his reasoning was practically non-existent and that he didn't even think the game was as bad as he claimed. That said, the people telling him to go f*ck himself and saying stuff about his mom were worse. I thought the pick was ludicrous and amusing ... certainly nothing worth raging about.

C'mon, guys. That just proves Jensen's theory that it's a game for children.








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rexwolf2's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 17:38
rexwolf2
Wonderful game, but it's pretty pathetic that people took such offense to it.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 17:38
Chris Carter
Bitch got out-Sterlinged by Sterling.
rexwolf2's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 17:39
rexwolf2
*took offense to Jensen, not Kirby.*
Darckcloud723's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 17:40
Darckcloud723
......................ok..........
PrinceHeir's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 17:40
PrinceHeir
i don't get why idiots like this guy keeps spewing bullshit all over the place. it's like saying pokemon isn't good because it has cute monsters, i also remembered western publications trying to change pokemon's look because it was too cute for westerners fucking unbelievable. it's a shame when people judge things based on their looks. too bad you won't be able to make a game this fun and charming Mr. Jensen.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 17:44
Xzyliac
I played it for the first time today and enjoyed it.

That said, I kinda wish it didn't have Kirby's name on it and I can definitely see how the lack of a mandatory challenge (I recognize there is a challenge if you want there to be one) can get old. I only played for like an hour and it just felt surprisingly fun for reasons I still have yet to determine.
llort het's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 17:47
llort het
Well alot of people will honestly dislike games because they aren't violent and bloody. This article writer isn't alone. If you don't care about gore, can anyone honestly say that God of War and Mortal Kombat are as great as they are touted? Now I'm not interested in Epic Yarn because it is way too easy and slow, but that's me of course.
pokota's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 17:56
pokota
Yay? I dunno.
Super Drybones's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 17:56
Super Drybones
If you wish to bring up a discussion, have the balls to be up front about it.
Andrew5329's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 17:59
Andrew5329
Oh, heres a thought for Jensen. Maybe, just maybe, its being aimed at kids. Following that logic, what 6 year old (or rather a parent shopping for their 6 year old) isnt going to lap up the cutsey. Following that logic, its a pretty good bet that the game is designed to be playable by a 6year old.
So yes Jeff Jensen, the game is Cutsey, easy, and also aimed at the 12 and younger demographic.
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 18:06
Mr Andy Dixon
I fucked Jeff Jensen's mom.
prryjcksn's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 18:08
prryjcksn
I guess it's just the dude's opinion, he just lacked the ability to really show what he was meaning until he was bitched out on it I guess?

he's free to his own opinion, he's just gotta back it up, Sterl'z does that shit before getting bitched out on and people just forget to read sometimes i guess.
Kyousuke Nanbu's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 18:19
Kyousuke Nanbu
Would be nice if someone said "Yea I think this game is shit" and stood behind it. They always back down.
Hindesite's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 18:24
Hindesite
"C'mon, guys. That just proves Jensen's theory that it's a game for children."

And that's pretty much it. A large chunk of the "Nintendo generation" are older gamers excited to play sequels to the games that made their childhood. Games like Super Mario Galaxy 2, they started easy enough for a kid, but only a skilled gamer would actually beat it. Kirby's Epic Yarn, however, is made entirely for unskilled kid gamers, small children, a new generation of Nintendo gamers. Us older Nintendo fans need to accept that channels like Nick aren't going to suddenly be like Adult Swim 'cus we're older no, so to speak.
Cahuatijo's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 18:28
Cahuatijo
It was a great move for him to declare it the worst game. Before this crap, I never even knew EW did games at all. Now I do and I couldn't care less. Jensen's job, however, is to work for EW, and the fact that hundreds of sods now know that EW has games' coverage might be enough for his boss.
Los255's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 18:36
Los255
I literally finished it yesterday. Damn that was a delightful game from start to finish.
Springsteen's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 19:05
Springsteen
CAlling it "barely a game" makes it even worse. It's a relaxing, intuitive experience, and one that shines with design brilliance. A guy that puts Lego Harry Potter and Super Mario Galaxy 2 on the same level of would-be contestants for his top 20(twenty, for christ's sake. SMG on top 20!) list just goes to show the guy has some profoundly different tastes from those of my own.

Epic Yarn has some of the most evocative moments in platformer design I've ever seen. Nintendo IS, as far as I'm concerned, the Studio Ghibli of platformers. There's a magical thing about it, and the way it all just FITS and FLOWS in Epic Yarn, and his kids' reaction should be enough for him to back down. He says the game is contradictory and barely qualifies as a game, and one can almost see him touching around in the dark to find arguments to back up a faulted, empty reasoning.

While I usually agree with you Jim, I must say that was not well reasoned. Fan backlash was unnacceptable, and I've facepalmed my way through this fiasco. But if this is how he responds, I lack empathy for him and all I can gather is disdain for both parties.
BalloonFighter's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 19:13
BalloonFighter
I really can't believe the fans went after him. I joked about that happening but didn't think they would. Thats kind of embarassing.
Dv8thwonder's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 19:13
Dv8thwonder
Epic Yawn sucked but I'm sure there were far worse games released this year.
Matt Welch's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 19:23
Matt Welch
Did some douchebag really just post "Epic Yawn" in here? Seriously, PUNS ARE NOT FUNNY! Why do people resort to stupid spelling changes and puns when they dislike something? You. Are. Bad. At. Life.

Epic YARN was great, though. I also think people are f*cking idiots about Epic Yarn's "difficulty". Boohoo you have to actually play the game for the challenge instead of just beating it. You. Suck. At. Life. Even. Harder.

Good God, some people are just DUMB when it comes to games. I WANT TEH GORES GOD OF WAR YEEHALKSJDFlkajsdgl;kj!

Idiots.
vrplumber's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 19:30
vrplumber
@Matt Welch:

Take a deep breath

Let it out slow...

There. Now don't you feel better?
HEL105's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 19:36
HEL105
@Matt Welch

That has to be one of the biggest overreactions I've ever seen on this site. And that's REALLY saying something.
Epic-Kx's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 19:37
Epic-Kx
Epic Yarn was pretty.....Epic
KingSigy's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 19:37
KingSigy
It wasn't the greatest game around, but it was certainly good. I still don't see the point in talking about EW, though.
3ofDiamonds's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 19:39
3ofDiamonds
To all the flamers (you know who you are), read this: "C'mon, guys. That just proves Jensen's theory that it's a game for children."

Now, read your comments.

Now, appreciate the sweet, sweet irony.
pascuz46's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 20:11
pascuz46
LoL at Epic Yawn. Funny.
Hiltz's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 20:22
Hiltz
Fact: No one expects much from a Kirby story.

It's not like Kirby's Epic Yarn was a highly anticipated story-driven Nintendo title like Metroid: Other M (Boy was it a disappointment!).Besides, Nintendo isn't the Pixar of story telling in video games.

Fact: Kirby's Epic Yarn's story sucked. For the most part, I'm okay with simplistic and cliche story plots (not like we have much of a choice given how the industry's stories are generally crappy and cheesy anyway) but the Dora the Explorer presentation and the creepy narrator's voice just ruined it.

Gameplay. Music. Controls = Good

(except for the near-broken train transformation control scheme

In my opinion, Kirby's Epic Yarn featured the most pleasantly soothing and happy-go-lucky game music of the year. Awesome stuff.
Felipe Choque's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 20:26
Felipe Choque
I just played Kirby. Didn't like it at all; not after having played Donkey Kong Country Returns! i think i agree with the "Overrated" title, at least overrated here at Dtoid.
Gengario's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 20:30
Gengario
Wario Land: Shake It is extremely underrated. Kirby's Epic Yarn is very similar to it except not as good. Yet that's the one that gets by far more press, somehow.

I'm not into over-cuteness either, luckily Kirby's Epic Yarn was still good despite it.
pokota's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 20:37
pokota
Please keep us up to date with posts about this story. It's important.
Dv8thwonder's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 20:55
Dv8thwonder
I knew one day me and Matt Welch would cross paths but I never knew it would be this funny. Zzzzz...
rexwolf2's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 20:58
rexwolf2
@Dv8th: I've wanted to say this for a while: you are a douche. Good night.
Face's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 21:02
Face
I don't really feel like a debate on cuteness needed to be sparked. I don't have much sympathy for the guy. If you say things to intentionally provoke people on the internet you are guaranteed to run into some of the less desirable people around.
Popyman's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 22:09
Popyman
I still don't like the game, Kirby should NOT have taken it over. It wasn't his game.
Scissors's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 23:37
Scissors
Personally I love cute games, the cuter the better, if you're gonna take a stance against a certain type of game make it justified. Especially since the only cute games I can think of that came out this year were Kirby and Costume Quest. I think he just caved to peoples nagging. Anyways us here at destructoid shouldn't care what some tabloid magazine has to say about videogames. It's like furniture at Fry's sure they sell furniture, but you wouldn't go there to buy any because it's low quality.
Dv8thwonder's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2010 23:53
Dv8thwonder
@rexwolf2 I have never denied the fact. Zzzzz...
KingSigy's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/22/2010 00:09
KingSigy
@Felipe Choque

I did the smart thing and beat Kirby first. Kirby took me 4 hours and was a nice, pleasant trip after all the anger I suffered from COD's broken online. Then I popped in DK and was blown the fuck away. Great game.
GoofierBrute's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/22/2010 01:06
GoofierBrute
Kirby's Epic Yarn is my pick for GOTY. I still think that regardless of what this idiot thinks. Why? Because I learned a long time ago that people aren't going to like the same thing. So to everyone who got upset about this, just do what I do: enter your happy place, and think of happy things.
Blitzard's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/22/2010 01:10
Blitzard
I don't buy the "hoped to use [his] “Worst” entry to provoke debate about cutesyness?" reasoning. More like, "provoke debate to see how retarded the gaming communities of today are".
nalor's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/22/2010 02:32
nalor
Yeah, I really think we need to rail against all this damn cutesyness! MOAR BROWN! WE NEEEED MOOOAAAAR BROWWWWWNNNNNNN!!!!
KCalder's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/22/2010 04:27
KCalder
It's a niche game. It's not my niche like, AT ALL - the alleged cuteness leaves me unmoved. The optional objectives being all of the challenge rubs me the wrong way too, I hate that growing tendency in a lot of other games. So I get where this guy was coming from. In fact, I think a lot of people have bought Epic Yarn based on recommendations from sources they trust, and will realize they're bored to death when they actually try to play it. The one I hear from many sources is "I wish I were playing this with (a) kid, then maybe I could enjoy it."

But still, responsible gamers need to practice a little niche tolerence. I like games in some equally endangered niches. It's a very big industry, and it's been a long time since Kirby or any game like it was a hit. You have to respect that to some degree.

It's basically like taking a big dump on the next amazingly popular surprise hit er.... flight sim... because they thought landing the plane was too easy. Or too difficult. Who cares about that opinion! Get someone on that review who has actually owned a thrustmaster in their lifetime. Get someone on the Kirby review who either likes cute kid games, or can be professional in expressing why they don't like them. I've heard a lot of excellent editorializing on the many concrete reasons why Epic Mickey is a bad, overrated game.
deityofanime's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/22/2010 04:45
deityofanime
ITT:
>Implying Epic Yarn is a bad Kirby game because it isn't hard
>Implying Kirby games have ever been hard
>Implying all Kirby games are bad

Stay Classy
Kvb's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/22/2010 06:18
Kvb
I can't respect people who overstate their opinion for any reason. Hype is stupid, backlash is stupid.

Basically, I can't respect the internet.
garethxxgod's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/22/2010 06:55
garethxxgod
Shit is kiddie son.
Shit is downright childish dawg.
GameQueen's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/22/2010 07:05
GameQueen
So he didn't even think it was THE WORST game ever, and he wanted to start discussion on the idea of cute games? UGH. I know we're not supposed to be fuming at the mouths, BUT COME ON. In a see of Nitty Gritty titles, ONE TITLE that takes the cute and rolls with it, ONE TITLE that is aimed at the audience that it is, and we're suppose to be ignited by this fool to have a DEEP discussion about the state of video games and how cuteness is an issue. OH PLEASE. Everything about Epic Yarn was refreshing, even the whole no-dying angle was neat. I never saw it as an issue being a collectionist. I mean who doesn't try 100%-ing something (the main goal in truly saying a game is beat in the first place!)

It was such a neat title compared to everything out in the year and I have to continue to this this guy doesn't know spit. Again, like you said, Jim. When there are greater technical failures this year, Epic Yarn!? And he doesn't even think it's the worst either? He's just throwing the title under the bus? Lovely.

I still refuse to take EW or him seriously.
Malik's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/22/2010 07:09
Malik
I think it's funny how the characterization of someone who doesn't like Kirby's Epic Yarn (or any game that is seen as cute) is that he's a XBL 'dudebro'.
Herr Forehead's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/22/2010 07:20
Herr Forehead
Dashes -- they are quite pretentious when used in succession -- some people will find a way to make themselves look like twats in any situation.
Insanity-Oo's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/22/2010 08:25
Insanity-Oo
@ Herr Forehead: Using punctuation is pretentious now? Go internets!

Oh, and it's called a hyphen.
Noir Trilby's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/22/2010 08:25
Noir Trilby
Why on earth didn't he say that in the first place then? OK, most people are over-reacting, and sending him insults about his mum and such - way out of line. However, calling a game "worst game of 2010" and saying "because it's cutesy" is not really a reason, as Jim stated. People wouldn't have over-reacted the way they did if he said, "it's because I don't see the challenge in a game where you can't die". Well, maybe they still would over-react, but at least he'd have a cogent argument he could stick by.
Opa-Opa's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/22/2010 08:46
Opa-Opa
Kinda reminds me of some guy who said Sonic 4 was actually a good game with perfect physics.
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