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People are funny. It's perfectly acceptable to blow someone's head into chunks and gore, but they get their panties in a bunch over a bit of surprise sex.
Japan's society is so sexually repressed it makes me squirm in my chair.
These kinds of games allow all the generally homogeneous society to "let loose", along with hardcore Hentai OVAs/Movies, and the sick piss/eel porn they produce.
Shutting this industry down and "taking a stand" will only further the repression. It's a deep-seeded cultural phenomenon. I think this was simply enacted because of the world-wide outrage by Westerners, and this is an attempt to make sure Japan isn't labeled as "the dark land of anime porn" like they were nearly a decade ago in a similar hate campaign.
These kinds of games allow all the generally homogeneous society to "let loose", along with hardcore Hentai OVAs/Movies, and the sick piss/eel porn they produce.
Shutting this industry down and "taking a stand" will only further the repression. It's a deep-seeded cultural phenomenon. I think this was simply enacted because of the world-wide outrage by Westerners, and this is an attempt to make sure Japan isn't labeled as "the dark land of anime porn" like they were nearly a decade ago in a similar hate campaign.
There will be chaos in Tokyo's streets tonigh. The curfew will start at 07 hundred hour and will last until sunrise. The nation of Japan is now under martial law and all military personnal should report to their officials.
I'm joking.
I'm joking.
@detox
Why are you misspelling "come on" repeatedly? Spelling it as a word with a completely different meaning that isn't even a shorter version of what you intend to say is annoying.
Why are you misspelling "come on" repeatedly? Spelling it as a word with a completely different meaning that isn't even a shorter version of what you intend to say is annoying.
So wait wait, I'm confused. Are ALL Japanese hentai games banned now or just ones that have forced sex?
I should go get some rape games then. I never had any interest, but now that it's verbotten, the urge suddenly rises!
So, will this make torrenting them Extra Illegal, then? I'd better get in on the action while it's still just regularly illegal.
never was a fan of these kinda games. i tried one called rapelay and i have to admit that they are well designed but still no my thing. but taking such measures will create problems within the Japanese society. i mean IMHO that people who have tendencies to perform such acts used to have these "simulations" to vent through. now with the banning, i can only imagine what would happen....once again big brother steps in to ruin it for someone....
Rape games banned? Everyone talking about rape games, rape manga, a dude going in jail for lolicon/shotacon manga and anime... yeah yeah...
I Know some are well aware of the existence of this...but it seems no one remember those kind of shit...
Rape hentai is sick, Yes. Lolicon and Shota are twisted, Yes. Bondage and theirs creepy friends, Yes too. But the one that, even today when I hear about it in foruns, make me really puke is Guro.
There are guro games out there! Guro manga and anime( no shit, they run around some foruns and this is BAD ). Those are THE twisted ones...
I Know some are well aware of the existence of this...but it seems no one remember those kind of shit...
Rape hentai is sick, Yes. Lolicon and Shota are twisted, Yes. Bondage and theirs creepy friends, Yes too. But the one that, even today when I hear about it in foruns, make me really puke is Guro.
There are guro games out there! Guro manga and anime( no shit, they run around some foruns and this is BAD ). Those are THE twisted ones...
I agree; this worries me about censorship. However, I think that Japan went to far with it's rape games, and I'm glad that trash is getting canned.
My opinion might have been different a few years ago, but getting married puts a whole new perspective on woman (and how horrible rape is). Maybe after talking about it a lot on the internet and watching lots of porn we become desensitized, but when it comes down to it "awful" isn't a strong enough word to describe it.
But the real thing is: wouldn't this ban 90% of hentai games? I mean, seriously now.
My opinion might have been different a few years ago, but getting married puts a whole new perspective on woman (and how horrible rape is). Maybe after talking about it a lot on the internet and watching lots of porn we become desensitized, but when it comes down to it "awful" isn't a strong enough word to describe it.
But the real thing is: wouldn't this ban 90% of hentai games? I mean, seriously now.
This is stupider than the situation with the guy from Texas?
I may not like the content of a game like Rapelay, though a lot of other titles I do like often feature some elements of rape either as a part of the story or slightly unneccessary villain exposition, but that doesn't mean I don't defend their right to exist. There is nothing that actuall exists being exploited in these games, it's like with the guy in Texas who didn't really OWN child pornography, he simply had a book full off drawings. What part of the constructed unreality would define crossing the border into rape? Could I just paint a smiley face over the girl's head and be done with it?
This just feels like an immature reaction to an insignificant situation which simply invites some far more dangerous possibilities to follow.
I may not like the content of a game like Rapelay, though a lot of other titles I do like often feature some elements of rape either as a part of the story or slightly unneccessary villain exposition, but that doesn't mean I don't defend their right to exist. There is nothing that actuall exists being exploited in these games, it's like with the guy in Texas who didn't really OWN child pornography, he simply had a book full off drawings. What part of the constructed unreality would define crossing the border into rape? Could I just paint a smiley face over the girl's head and be done with it?
This just feels like an immature reaction to an insignificant situation which simply invites some far more dangerous possibilities to follow.
I just can't support anything that glorifies rape, even though I know you're pretty much right. I mean, if anything the games probably help a lot of sick fucks keep control of the urge to really go out and rape a woman or girl.
But still, it's rape......ugh.
Whatever.
But still, it's rape......ugh.
Whatever.
I'm with EternalDeathSlayer. Maybe I'm getting too old, but rape isn't something I see any value in allowing someone to virtually enact. Most would agree pedophilia is over the line. For me the line stops at rape.
Whoa, wait a sec. You mean to tell me rape is bad? So...the things I do to my neighbor's animals are illegal?
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Im surprised that noone else is surprised by the face that a culture different from Japan *cough usa cough* managed to eliminate a sub-genre of Japanese hentai.
I have no problem at all with banning anything that glorifies rape. Until you've felt it yourself, I guess you can find it 'entertaining' if you're that way inclined. There have to be lines drawn somewhere. I mean if this is okay, what next, pedophile games with bonus points for molesting the most kids?
There's 200 companies in Japan producing products that would fall under the virtual rape category of video games?
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Free and Open? Someone hasn't been to Japan lately, uh Japan censors nearly all sexual media. With the exception to hentai manga and other loop holes in the law.
So this post is retarded.
So uh lol to all you Dtards, 100s of years to late. LOL!
So this post is retarded.
So uh lol to all you Dtards, 100s of years to late. LOL!
Those figures mean absolutely nothing.
For example, Saudio Arabia last at number 65. Do you realise it is legal (not illegal) to rape your wife whenever you want there? Also sex with minors is allowed aslong as they are married (no age restrictions and can marry many minors for sex - after all Mohammad did it and openly encoruages it). On the other hand they have very strict segregation laws and men and women are not allowed to mix. Also women who get raped actualy also get punished themself in the majorioty of cases as they are looked down upon and are usualy classed as "was asking for it" due to breaking a segregation law, which means they get many lashes and even imprisoned. Some even get killed by family members... this means almost all rapes go unreported.
Also in spain the legal age of consent is 13yrs old, unlike in the UK where it is 16yrs old and in most parts of america 18yrs old. Where sex under that age is usualy atomatically classed as statuatory rape.
In Asian culture girls may not come forward who have been raped (TBH I have no clue on this one but it is a possibility.)?
Anyway, all I am saying is them figures are meaningless, although I can believe that South Africa is the worst.
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For example, Saudio Arabia last at number 65. Do you realise it is legal (not illegal) to rape your wife whenever you want there? Also sex with minors is allowed aslong as they are married (no age restrictions and can marry many minors for sex - after all Mohammad did it and openly encoruages it). On the other hand they have very strict segregation laws and men and women are not allowed to mix. Also women who get raped actualy also get punished themself in the majorioty of cases as they are looked down upon and are usualy classed as "was asking for it" due to breaking a segregation law, which means they get many lashes and even imprisoned. Some even get killed by family members... this means almost all rapes go unreported.
Also in spain the legal age of consent is 13yrs old, unlike in the UK where it is 16yrs old and in most parts of america 18yrs old. Where sex under that age is usualy atomatically classed as statuatory rape.
In Asian culture girls may not come forward who have been raped (TBH I have no clue on this one but it is a possibility.)?
Anyway, all I am saying is them figures are meaningless, although I can believe that South Africa is the worst.
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I don't think all of these games glorify rape though, as while some are shallow as hell crap, others are heavily invested and tied to a story and the characters actions, more so than any western live action porn. Many of these games do show, that such actions can have dire karmic consequences for the rapist (cautionary tales are good, kind of like how He Man used to tell us kids not to steal etc, at the end of show, so it wasn't all about kickin Skeletor's boney butt).
I really think its these hentai, that get the 'rape is wrong' message across. I guess without hentai games, there's always the anime and manga hentai that may benefit.
I do agree, its far too late for this ban. The net has been around too long, and it will always exist in ones and zeros.
I really think its these hentai, that get the 'rape is wrong' message across. I guess without hentai games, there's always the anime and manga hentai that may benefit.
I do agree, its far too late for this ban. The net has been around too long, and it will always exist in ones and zeros.
Good for them. I know I sure enjoy the right to be part of a nation who isn't infamous for producing rape-glorifying media.
This article is fucking stupid. Brad Rice, I think you'd have a better time over at Kotaku.
You act like the media isn't censored in any way. Should child porn be legal? No. Should there be games where you go around and shoot minorities as a form of ethnic cleansing? No. Should there be games centered on sexual violence against women? No.
Would any of these inspire actual aggression? I'm not sure. However, there's no reason to allow these ideas be promoted or to allow people to take some perverse relish in them. It's only made worse by the fact that these sorts of ideas are centered on attacking specific groups.
Should pornography or any depiction of rape be made illegal? Of course not. There are ways to actually defend these ideas without having to resort to the blanket argument of free speech. You cannot do the same with these "rape" games. They offer no benefit, only harm.
As others have mentioned, your rape statistics at best only feebly support your argument. There's so many goddamn factors you're not taking into consideration and there's no fucking control group to compare. If you think that the presence of such game actually reduces rapes (all other things held constant), then you are a FUCKING STUPID PIECE OF SHIT.
You act like the media isn't censored in any way. Should child porn be legal? No. Should there be games where you go around and shoot minorities as a form of ethnic cleansing? No. Should there be games centered on sexual violence against women? No.
Would any of these inspire actual aggression? I'm not sure. However, there's no reason to allow these ideas be promoted or to allow people to take some perverse relish in them. It's only made worse by the fact that these sorts of ideas are centered on attacking specific groups.
Should pornography or any depiction of rape be made illegal? Of course not. There are ways to actually defend these ideas without having to resort to the blanket argument of free speech. You cannot do the same with these "rape" games. They offer no benefit, only harm.
As others have mentioned, your rape statistics at best only feebly support your argument. There's so many goddamn factors you're not taking into consideration and there's no fucking control group to compare. If you think that the presence of such game actually reduces rapes (all other things held constant), then you are a FUCKING STUPID PIECE OF SHIT.
Censorship is wrong, no matter how you spin it. Putting guys like Whorley and Handley does nothing to "protect the children" and everything to further the careers of a few scumbag lawyers and judges. Shit like this makes me sick.
@The White Light
I don't think anyone is arguing that games portraying rape actually reduce the number of rapes. If only because there is no evidence supporting such a theory. However the hyposthesis is a sound one, even if it remains untested, so calling people "stupid pieces of shit" is a tad unnecessary if you ask me.
The reason we argue for the protection of the rights of publishers and consumers to make and purchase "rape games" is because what if the censor suddenly turn to war games next? Sure you and I are not offended by Modern Wareware 2, but what if it is never published because a group of Iraq veterans decide it's too offensive to them and therefore shouldn't be enjoyed by anybody? That would suck right?
It's the same idea here, you and I do not understand why anybody would want to play a game that allowed for the simulation of rape but there are people out there that want that. And because you and I want things that other people don't understand (the war games) we have to fight censorship in all of it's forms, before it turns it's evil black bars on us.
I don't think anyone is arguing that games portraying rape actually reduce the number of rapes. If only because there is no evidence supporting such a theory. However the hyposthesis is a sound one, even if it remains untested, so calling people "stupid pieces of shit" is a tad unnecessary if you ask me.
The reason we argue for the protection of the rights of publishers and consumers to make and purchase "rape games" is because what if the censor suddenly turn to war games next? Sure you and I are not offended by Modern Wareware 2, but what if it is never published because a group of Iraq veterans decide it's too offensive to them and therefore shouldn't be enjoyed by anybody? That would suck right?
It's the same idea here, you and I do not understand why anybody would want to play a game that allowed for the simulation of rape but there are people out there that want that. And because you and I want things that other people don't understand (the war games) we have to fight censorship in all of it's forms, before it turns it's evil black bars on us.
@ IroN1c
Yup Germany would never ban something they don't agree with *looks at Dead Rising* oh wait.
Yup Germany would never ban something they don't agree with *looks at Dead Rising* oh wait.
Japan has banned rape games. Japan. Ban. Rape games. How is that fucking possible?! I thought that Japanese society was built upon rape! That's like saying that the United States will now ban all guns. Jesus, of all the horrifying shit for the Japanese to ban, they gotta ban rape. God damn. No, forget the used underwear machines, forget the scat stuff, the vomitting stuff, the pissing stuff, the eating of live animals. No, you have to ban something tame as fake rape. Now personally I'm not a fan of Japanese rape stuff. It is god annoying as shit. The fucking bitches cry so damn much, you actually feel sorry for the guys raping the women. Do those fucking bitches even fight back?! I think I've said enough.
This is very, very bad.
As a devout Muslim, rape game disgust me, however, they do serve a purpose, and even can be seen to be benifical, to some.
The fact is Japan, like so many other coutries around the world, is a sexually repressed country. These types of games allow the perversely minded a way to act out thier fantasties in the safety of thier own homes, sure they are repulsive, but compared to roaming the streets acting them out, games at least prevented them doing that.
Even thought the vast majority of us are sane and, hopefully, decent enough to not actually rape some one, man or woman, there people who want to. Banning these games only serves to futher fustrate and aggravate the type of people, which is ver bad. It's obvious what might happen if they are pushed to breaking point.
Like daedhead said, this is ONLY a theory, but permit me to say it is at leasta sound, reasonable one.
Yes, there is very, very little good in what the government is trying to do, yet the manner in which they are doing it is very detrimental to it's society. It gives the impression the Japanese government is just trying to save face and repytation rather than thinking in the best interests of the people it serves. Now that's really disgusting. They should tacle the problem effectively, by understanding why it exsists in the first place and to work with the companies in order to best asess what to do in light of the rather apparent rape game trend embedded in it's society. Like others said, a blanket ban will only serve to further worsen the situation.
It all boils down to which is the lesser evil, and in this case, it's allowing the rape vame trade to continue, there is areal demand for these games, and I'd rather people act them out digitally than in real life. This coming from a person with five sisters which are blessed enough to not endure the ordeal of rape.
If they need to take action like this, they should've regulated the industry and put certain sanction on it. What they've done instead is to make it much more popular now, whilst shooting whatever they wanted to do in the head.
As a devout Muslim, rape game disgust me, however, they do serve a purpose, and even can be seen to be benifical, to some.
The fact is Japan, like so many other coutries around the world, is a sexually repressed country. These types of games allow the perversely minded a way to act out thier fantasties in the safety of thier own homes, sure they are repulsive, but compared to roaming the streets acting them out, games at least prevented them doing that.
Even thought the vast majority of us are sane and, hopefully, decent enough to not actually rape some one, man or woman, there people who want to. Banning these games only serves to futher fustrate and aggravate the type of people, which is ver bad. It's obvious what might happen if they are pushed to breaking point.
Like daedhead said, this is ONLY a theory, but permit me to say it is at leasta sound, reasonable one.
Yes, there is very, very little good in what the government is trying to do, yet the manner in which they are doing it is very detrimental to it's society. It gives the impression the Japanese government is just trying to save face and repytation rather than thinking in the best interests of the people it serves. Now that's really disgusting. They should tacle the problem effectively, by understanding why it exsists in the first place and to work with the companies in order to best asess what to do in light of the rather apparent rape game trend embedded in it's society. Like others said, a blanket ban will only serve to further worsen the situation.
It all boils down to which is the lesser evil, and in this case, it's allowing the rape vame trade to continue, there is areal demand for these games, and I'd rather people act them out digitally than in real life. This coming from a person with five sisters which are blessed enough to not endure the ordeal of rape.
If they need to take action like this, they should've regulated the industry and put certain sanction on it. What they've done instead is to make it much more popular now, whilst shooting whatever they wanted to do in the head.
I agree with you DeadHead. Like it always is, censorship will come for these games, then something else tomorrow, and it will keep going til there's no one left to defend the right for some to consume questionable material in their privacy, featuring fake characters and no one getting hurt.
Sure, its never been proven, but what if such material is keeping a lot of bad folk in check?? Think about that carefully, because this is something even the west could benefit from if tested out, since we still don't know what to do with such people. This rape game cat has been out of the bag for ages, and there's no way its returning, regardless of a ban. Its damn hard to legislate this when rape has such a history in japanese society and culture.
Don't forget what happened, when alcohol was banned during the U.S depression. Nature will always find a way.
Sure, its never been proven, but what if such material is keeping a lot of bad folk in check?? Think about that carefully, because this is something even the west could benefit from if tested out, since we still don't know what to do with such people. This rape game cat has been out of the bag for ages, and there's no way its returning, regardless of a ban. Its damn hard to legislate this when rape has such a history in japanese society and culture.
Don't forget what happened, when alcohol was banned during the U.S depression. Nature will always find a way.
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