Twisted Metal won't be coming to the Xbox 360. Obviously not, since Sony owns the game's license. Still, even if creator David Jaffe could put it on the 360, he apparently would not. According to the developer, giving the PS3 exclusives is more rewarding than expanding his potential audience.
"No, we will not be making it for the 360," Jaffe told a 360-owning fan. "The only thing we’d love more than getting the game out there to as many players as possible -- via putting it on new systems -- is to continue helping Sony differentiate their box from other boxes. We love our 360s and Wiis and iPads but TM is Sony owned and made just for PS3 users."
While this news may have disappointed Twisted Metal fans who lack a PS3, Jaffe played Santa to at least one of them. Sony Santa Monica and Eat Sleep Play actually sent one Twisted Metal fan a PS3, just so he could play the game when it launches next year.
That's pretty classy ... but I hope you brought enough PS3s for the whole class, David.
David Jaffe And Sony Ensure That One Xbox 360 Owner Will Play Twisted Metal [HBG]
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12:30 PM on 11.30.2010 | 
So basically this entire post basically invalidates itself.
Either way, Jaffe is an idiot for alienating multiple fanbases - and he looks like even more of an idiot after Schafer just came out and said how he'd love to work on on consoles.
"INSTEAD OF SELLING MY GAME TO A CUSTOMER BASE OF 100 MILLION I WILL SELL IT TO 20 MILLION".
I'm pretty stoked, no matter the case. Also, incoming "nerf helicopters"
Suck it Microsoft.
Bravo.
Finally being an independent studio simply means they have the opportunity to create non-Sony console games... but they have financial/legal obligations to fill first and it makes sense that they would retain a loyalty to Sony.
Oh... and I'm not a fan of the Twisted Metal series, but Eat, Sleep, Play also got a lot of people from Incognito who made Warhawk... so I do wish them every success!
(and I wish the rest of the Incog crew that went to Lightbox would get their asses in gear and announce the next Warhawk game!)
Not even the same thing. Final Fantasy is a third party property. Twisted Metal always has been published by Sony. It's as surely an eternal Sony exclusive as Mario is to Nintendo or Halo is to Microsoft.
Just seeing if the shooting will start....
And who's honestly surprised that it's a PS3 exclusive?
I'm excited for this game. TM:black was one of my favorite ps2 games, and jaffe has been very vocal about this game, and he interacts with fans on a daily basis via twitter. Online twisted metal? Fuck yes.
Still, I've never liked Twisted Metal, and I really doubt this new one will change that. If 13-year-old mrandydixon couldn't get into it, I really doubt so-called-adult mrandydixon will.
Plus if you have a multisystem release that flops, thing about how much more it can hurt. It's all a double edged sword.
because you already know that twisted metal is meant to be in the PS3
I was giving an example - thanks for the nice comment!
We know that the Wii has outsold both the Xbox 360 and PS3. It is reasonable to assume that by selling to the 360 and Wii, you are increasing your audience by at least five-fold - especially considering 360s are outselling PS3s worldwide on top of the Wii's dominance.
So yes - the PS3 is ranked 3/3 in terms of sales.
Hey, man .. you know that article actually says the opposite of you're saying? "But globally PlayStation is selling faster". Maybe you linked the wrong thing?
If you'd said that the 360 has sold more units, that would have been accurate, but the PS3 has a higher sales rate, and has moved like 150k+ units more a month over its shorter lifetime.
Are we reading the same article?
The article I linked says that 360s are currently in more homes than PS3.
That was my entire point. Jaffe is alienating at least 5 million people (that we know of) - in addition to the Wii market (which is just massive).
I'm not talking about "what might be" - I'm saying right now, around when Twisted Metal is released, there will be more 360s out there than PS3s. Additionally, the Kinect has sold at least a million more 360s on it's own, but that's another issue.
Calling him a journalist is a stretch. I prefer troll.
You said the 360 is outselling the PS3, which is the opposite of what the article said. That is not the same as "the 360 has sold more units", which appears to be what you meant to say. Two very different things.
You're right about the install base still being larger for the 360, though, even if the differential is shrinking. My guess is that developers like signing exclusivity contracts because the money is guaranteed; that is, they still get paid even if the game is a flop.
funny, i was thinking the same thing about your post.
good news to hear, tho.
And as for "multiplat magically means more money", how much more did God of War III, a Ps3 exclusive, sell than Dantes Inferno, a game on damn near everything? Despite the latters marketting blitz?
Look at this game. Hell, look at the screenshots. If people want this game, they will buy a Ps3 for it. No doubt it will be that good.
@Magnalon
You know, I read your example as: WE'RE ACTIVISION! GIVE US YOUR MONEY!! I don't really know if that's a good thing.
But yeah, I agree that you'll have a larger audience if you create a certain game for all 3 platforms. I also agree that it would be nice to see certain high-profile games getting a multi-plaform release. But with some games it just doesn't work out. Twisted Metal is one of those games.
If we take the Kinect example you made about the soccer mom buying a 360 because of Kinect (yesterday was it? I'm not sure). Microsoft sold 45.6M consoles, Sony sold 41.6M. Let's say those 4 million extra are 'soccer-mom-360s' They will never ever buy Twisted Metal. Which means Sony and Microsoft are even. I also think it's safe to assume that Twisted Metal just isn't a Wii game. Even if it came out of the Wii it wouldn't sell more than on the PS3.
Let's do an easy calculation based on your example.
Halo: Reach - 6.27 million copies sold on the 360. We're going to release it on all 3 consoles. Lets see how many copies they could sell:
Wii: 76.6 - 46.8%
360: 45.6 - 27.8%
PS3: 41.6 - 25.4%
(Millions of consoles sold worldwide)
(p.s. that is a 2.4% difference between Sony and Microsoft, what the hell are we talking about?)
Wii - 6.27/27.8*46.8= 10.56
PS3 - 6.27/27.8*25.4= 5.73
Holy hell that would mean 22.56 copies! Don't tell Activision, they might buy Bungie. Or have they done that already?
I know this example is way too easy, but but the same goes for your example. Basically all I'm saying is that you can't compare hardware sales with software sales that easily. You need to know everything about every console owner. I own a PS3 and I don't think I'm going to buy Twisted Metal. If I get a 360 I will not buy Halo: Reach but I will get Mass Effect in a heartbeat.
@9thgenhero
Your comment makes a lot of sense. There never is just a quote, there is a story behind the quote.
Take a game like Mass Effect for example. Cutting out a console by choice is alienating a large chunk of your profits. Taking money from Microsoft and basically guaranteeing those sales is one thing. But Jaffe is basically mouthing off and not taking that into account.
Your example makes perfect sense, but you should also account for people who buy a lot of their multiplatform games on 360 instead (like myself or Blasto, because more friends play on 360) - which would take up a higher percentage than pre-supposing everyone who owns both consoles would only buy it on PS3.
Also all my friends buy multi-platform on PS3. I guess that's why they're my friends! Ha!
I wish I could continue our healthy discussion but I need to get some sleep. I have to get up in about 6 hours. I had some cases I would like to know your opinion on. Maybe I should write a blog again. Haven't done that in quite some time. Later!
I expect to see similar posts like this but in regards to Halo, Gears of War, God of War, Uncharted and so forth. Get writing, Jim (or just copy and paste this story and replace the appropriate words).
From Jaffe's twatter:
"Holy fuck, Destructoid Xbox only owners out in full force against me. WTF? I can't have an opinion? It's not that we would not LOVE to have our games in every home in the world...even the ones w/out electricity. Fuck it- we don't care! It's just that we value our relationship with Sony very, very much. They give us extra time to make the game great, lots of creative and marketing and business support. And we like the people over there tons; they are like family. Why is it so hard to understand we'd like 2 stay in that kind of working relationship?"