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Never played any of the Twisted Metals, but my friend showed me the cutscenes for TM: Black. Those were really dark and really awesome. Kinda disappointed they're not bringing that back.
Who cares? The "mature" content of Black always felt tacked-on to me anyway. I don't know anybody that plays a Twisted Metal game for the stories and characters. All the truly objectionable content was in the cutscenes. It would be like adding an epic story to Mario Kart- a waste of time.
@DynamoJoe
It may not matter to those already familiar with the franchise, but it would be a good way to bring in new players. As someone unaccustomed to the series, I'd definitely be more inclined to pick up the game if it had a darker tone, like it had in the last iteration.
It may not matter to those already familiar with the franchise, but it would be a good way to bring in new players. As someone unaccustomed to the series, I'd definitely be more inclined to pick up the game if it had a darker tone, like it had in the last iteration.
Actually Black Online was rated T. The only reason Black got an M rating was the cutscenes. Without those, the gameplay itself was definitely not M-rated.
@ndschroede23:
Actually, no. If you read the article, it's pretty clear that the reason they are aiming for a T-rated game is because they want more people of different ages to play it. Adding a dark tone won't help this one bit. Your logic makes no sense.
Actually, no. If you read the article, it's pretty clear that the reason they are aiming for a T-rated game is because they want more people of different ages to play it. Adding a dark tone won't help this one bit. Your logic makes no sense.
@ndschroede23:
Actually, no. If you read the article, it's pretty clear that the reason they are aiming for a T-rated game is because they want more people of different ages to play it. Adding a dark tone won't help this one bit. Your logic makes no sense.
Actually, no. If you read the article, it's pretty clear that the reason they are aiming for a T-rated game is because they want more people of different ages to play it. Adding a dark tone won't help this one bit. Your logic makes no sense.
@ndschroede23:
Actually, no. If you read the article, it's pretty clear that the reason they are aiming for a T-rated game is because they want more people of different ages to play it. Adding a dark tone won't help this one bit. Your logic makes no sense.
Actually, no. If you read the article, it's pretty clear that the reason they are aiming for a T-rated game is because they want more people of different ages to play it. Adding a dark tone won't help this one bit. Your logic makes no sense.
Huh, I could have sworn that all the twisted metal games were rated M. Must of been because I wasn't allowed to play the first one when I was a kid.
Huh, I could have sworn that all the twisted metal games were rated M. Must of been because I wasn't allowed to play the first one when I was a kid.
Huh, I could have sworn that all the twisted metal games were rated M. Must of been because I wasn't allowed to play the first one when I was a kid.
Black may have been the worst selling game in the series but it was my favorite. I'm not sure that's because of it's M rating though, so I remain optimistic about this new game.
@ndschroede23
I know you only saw the cutscenes, which could be very misleading. The story elements of Black make the game look like some sort of Manhunt clone, a 'badd-@ss' action game with lots of 'hard-core' stuff like blood and more blood.
But the Twisted Metal franchise has never deviated from its intial concept: a high-speed demolition derby with Mad Max vehicles and impossible weapons. It really feels more like an arcade game. Fast, breezy fun that's over quick. Injecting a bunch of snuff films inbetween the levels just prolongs the wait to unleash hell on your opponent's ugly car/tank. Waiting is not fun.
Just look at the NFS:Underground games. Anyone remember the names of the 'characters' you raced? Nope. Vehicle based games do not need a story. They need to be fast and fun and give you dirty tactics that challenge the limits of friendship.
I know you only saw the cutscenes, which could be very misleading. The story elements of Black make the game look like some sort of Manhunt clone, a 'badd-@ss' action game with lots of 'hard-core' stuff like blood and more blood.
But the Twisted Metal franchise has never deviated from its intial concept: a high-speed demolition derby with Mad Max vehicles and impossible weapons. It really feels more like an arcade game. Fast, breezy fun that's over quick. Injecting a bunch of snuff films inbetween the levels just prolongs the wait to unleash hell on your opponent's ugly car/tank. Waiting is not fun.
Just look at the NFS:Underground games. Anyone remember the names of the 'characters' you raced? Nope. Vehicle based games do not need a story. They need to be fast and fun and give you dirty tactics that challenge the limits of friendship.
The only reason Black was M was because of the storylines. None of the gameplay was really more violent.
That's sad to hear. Twisted Metal Black was the first game to sell me on a PS2. I ran out and blew $450 CDN on one that fall and loved every minute of it.
Has everyone forgotten how Batman Arkham Asylum was T-Rated? That had the Joker and his allies killing a ton of people and had three trippy nightmare scenes that could stand toe to toe with the best of Silent Hill. Yes a few years ago I would have moaned about this decision but the ESRB has improved considerably. Ever since they've added on the E10+ rating they've no longer had to categorize kiddy games with a little bit of violence next to Medal of Honor. The difference between T and M now is swearing, sex, excessive blood, and gore. I'm sure Eat Sleep Play will be able to craft a memorable setting with such small restrictions.
as long as the game is fun and doesnt feel half assed like alot of modern reboots of old series' i dont care if its rated E
Don't care what rating this gets, this game allows me to play as a maniac clown with flaming hair riding a chopper whilst hurling burning chainsaw at my opponent.
It won my money right there, and no ESRB rating is gonna change that.
It won my money right there, and no ESRB rating is gonna change that.
LAME.
Man Warthog in TMB was amazing. Stop making your audience more broad! Geez!!!!!!!! Games like that come out once in a decade. A true waste.
Man Warthog in TMB was amazing. Stop making your audience more broad! Geez!!!!!!!! Games like that come out once in a decade. A true waste.
Wtf hardock how the hell do you know that? There are millions of people who loved all twisted metal. Take out microsofts dick out of your ignorant ass and enjoy games instead of bashing every sony game! Faggot
I remember Black's storyline for each character was great, but a few of them were just really too extreme for me (at least at the time.) Anyone remember 8-Ball? Shit, man...
@Hardock
When this game sells 1.5 million I'm going to have sex with your mother. Do we have a deal?
@Hardock
When this game sells 1.5 million I'm going to have sex with your mother. Do we have a deal?
I'm probably the only person on Earth who only played TM2 and that's roughly it. Using the control pad combos to trigger specific moves, blowing up famous landmarks, fighting Minion and then Dark Tooth...and reading the Gameshark codes to play as both...
Good times. Of course, all of those probably apply to other games, but what would I know about those? :P
Good times. Of course, all of those probably apply to other games, but what would I know about those? :P
It was a long time ago I hired Twisted Metal: Black, but something about it was boring to me. Perhaps it was dark in a dull way.
Loved Twisted Metal Black and it's very dark nature. It had to be my absolute favorite in the series, especially after those crap 989 games. Making it "T" just to hit a bigger audience would make more sense if other games that were "M" rated, oh like Modern Warfare 2 for example, didn't sell like crazy.
If the game is great, it'll sell to everyone no matter what. Ask the 12 year olds on CoD how hard it was to pick up their copy.
That would be my main gripe with a Teen title, seems like a cop-out. Like they don't think it'll sell well, so might as well market it to everybody. Worked for Mortal Kombat vs DC, didn't it? Oh wait....
If the game is great, it'll sell to everyone no matter what. Ask the 12 year olds on CoD how hard it was to pick up their copy.
That would be my main gripe with a Teen title, seems like a cop-out. Like they don't think it'll sell well, so might as well market it to everybody. Worked for Mortal Kombat vs DC, didn't it? Oh wait....
@DynamoJoe
Good point. I guess I was exposed to the story and nothing but. No gameplay. I guess I could understand them sacrificing that relatively unimportant aspect of their game to reach a wider audience.
@Bolduk
I was simply trying to say that the darker imagery (or as I perceived it) would get someone like me to try the series without having any previous experience in it. That someone like me is disappointed in its absence, and less likely to pick up the game. I can't blame the developers for making this choice.
Good point. I guess I was exposed to the story and nothing but. No gameplay. I guess I could understand them sacrificing that relatively unimportant aspect of their game to reach a wider audience.
@Bolduk
I was simply trying to say that the darker imagery (or as I perceived it) would get someone like me to try the series without having any previous experience in it. That someone like me is disappointed in its absence, and less likely to pick up the game. I can't blame the developers for making this choice.
@ Loki
I dunno if comparing MW2 and Twisted Metal is a good idea. Sure your point makes sense but at the same time they are very different genres. Car combat genre is not popular (as of right now), so the market for it is probably much smaller than the potential market for any M rated FPS. So lowering the rating to a T is a very good idea because they probably want to aim at a demographic of kids between 10 and 17 or so. Naturally Im not saying anyone who buys the game will be that age. Im 22 and I intend to buy the game. I dont think an M rating will kill Twisted Metal, I think its crazy over the top action gameplay will still be intact and from what I have seen it pretty much is.
I dunno if comparing MW2 and Twisted Metal is a good idea. Sure your point makes sense but at the same time they are very different genres. Car combat genre is not popular (as of right now), so the market for it is probably much smaller than the potential market for any M rated FPS. So lowering the rating to a T is a very good idea because they probably want to aim at a demographic of kids between 10 and 17 or so. Naturally Im not saying anyone who buys the game will be that age. Im 22 and I intend to buy the game. I dont think an M rating will kill Twisted Metal, I think its crazy over the top action gameplay will still be intact and from what I have seen it pretty much is.
Personally, I think it's a smart move. Gore (well, lack thereof) isn't going to make a significant difference in the quality of the game. The franchise has already turned a lot of people off (wusses, like me) with the creepy clown vibe so anything to lighten up the mood will help open people's minds/wallets.
Also, RE: Spiffy - Whoa, really? I can't imagine this game NOT selling more than a million!
Also, RE: Spiffy - Whoa, really? I can't imagine this game NOT selling more than a million!
None of Vigilante 8, San Fransisco Rush 2049 or Mario Kart are rated Mature and they are all awesome. Car combat really doesn't need the M rating.
i'm sorry, but if a special weapon involves hurling a man tied to a gurney with a bomb strapped to his chest and you expect a t rating? you...Mr Jeffe...are crazy
@Danny Merritt: I only played (and loved) TM2 too. I would've bought Black, but the European release had all the cutscenes removed ;_;
I actually was more a fan of twisted metal 1 and 2 instead of black....(not that didnt like it just least favorite)
Not cause disturbing content but just cause all the levels seemed to have the dark and gritty colors...
but still i just Go crazy for any twisted metal and the new ones maps seem to be less dark wich i like.
Not cause disturbing content but just cause all the levels seemed to have the dark and gritty colors...
but still i just Go crazy for any twisted metal and the new ones maps seem to be less dark wich i like.
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